It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that any
prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous
exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I
found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called.
That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try
CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing
16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles meeting
me at the airport!
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that any
prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous
exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G airplane maneuver will be accompanied
by emergency vehicles meeting me at the airport!
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard bythose you called. That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G airplane maneuver will be accompanied by
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that anyYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of cellular phones
prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I
found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called.
That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try
CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing
16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles meeting
me at the airport!
while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
I'm shocked.
Thomas E. <[email protected]> wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles meeting me at the airport!X.0 versions of any software is going to have issues.
I have not bothered with iOS 16 yet, and am constantly amused by EVERYONE who rush to install the X.0 version of iOS (or MacOS, or Windows or whatever) and then complain about issues. Did you learn nothing from iOS
13? Windows 8? OS/2 2.0? Windows ME?
There is no rush, folks. Wait at least until X.1.2 or so. Unless, of
course, you enjoy complaining about being an unpaid beta tester. 🙄
I completely skipped iOS 13. There is no penalty for doing so. You are
not forced to install anything. In fact, unless you check for updates
you won’t even know that any updates are available.
The way things look now, I may skip 16. iOS 16 is already a joke, and
the first official iPadOS is going to be 16.1. That is exactly how iOS 13 started.
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that anyYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of cellular phones
prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous
exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I
found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called.
That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try
CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing
16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles meeting
me at the airport!
while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
I'm shocked.
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a particular device on the navigation and
communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case of an aircraft
operated by the holder of an air carrier certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a determination must be made by the operator
and/or by the pilot-in-command (PIC)."
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have never seen an interference issue.
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issues that anyYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of cellular phones
prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous
exercise set off the new emergency notifications! And the one I
found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by those you called.
That was just fixed in the 16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try
CarPlay calls using 16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing
16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles meeting
me at the airport!
while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
I'm shocked.
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a particular device on the navigation andYou ignored this:
communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case of an aircraft
operated by the holder of an air carrier certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a determination must be made by the operator
and/or by the pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently prohibits the use
of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to airline passengers.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have never seen an interference issue.Right.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:39:03 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:I'm shocked.
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issuesYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of
that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller
coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency
notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could
not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the
16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3
yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles
meeting me at the airport!
cellular phones while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
You ignored this:
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a
particular device on the navigation and communication system of
the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case
of an aircraft operated by the holder of an air carrier
certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a
determination must be made by the operator and/or by the
pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently prohibits
the use of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to airline
passengers.
Right.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have
never seen an interference issue.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
Having a phone on is not a problem. I was assuming the crash alerts
work just fine in airplane mode. Do they? Since it's a sat-phone
subsystem I assume so.
I don't know any pilots who actually go to the extreme of turning
phones completely off. You would not want to have to boot one up if
you need it.
Today I did a +2 and 0 g demo. Nothing happened other than some
smiles from the passenger. Either it was not enough to set it off or
airplane mode turns off the alerts.
On 2022-10-15 18:01, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:39:03 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:I'm shocked.
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issuesYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of
that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller
coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency
notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could
not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the
16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3
yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles
meeting me at the airport!
cellular phones while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
You ignored this:
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a
particular device on the navigation and communication system of
the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case
of an aircraft operated by the holder of an air carrier
certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a
determination must be made by the operator and/or by the
pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently prohibits
the use of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to airline
passengers.
Right.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have
never seen an interference issue.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
Having a phone on is not a problem. I was assuming the crash alertsThe FCC disagrees.
work just fine in airplane mode. Do they? Since it's a sat-phone
subsystem I assume so.
You break the rules when it suits you, you little shit.
I don't know any pilots who actually go to the extreme of turning
phones completely off. You would not want to have to boot one up if
you need it.
Today I did a +2 and 0 g demo. Nothing happened other than someSo you admit that you weren't previously putting the phone into airplane mode.
smiles from the passenger. Either it was not enough to set it off or airplane mode turns off the alerts.
You admit you broke the rules.
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:09:00 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-15 18:01, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:39:03 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:I'm shocked.
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issuesYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of
that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller
coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency
notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could
not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the
16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3
yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles
meeting me at the airport!
cellular phones while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
The FCC disagrees.You ignored this:
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a
particular device on the navigation and communication system of
the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case
of an aircraft operated by the holder of an air carrier
certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a
determination must be made by the operator and/or by the
pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently prohibits
the use of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to airline
passengers.
Right.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have
never seen an interference issue.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
Having a phone on is not a problem. I was assuming the crash alerts
work just fine in airplane mode. Do they? Since it's a sat-phone
subsystem I assume so.
You break the rules when it suits you, you little shit.
So you admit that you weren't previously putting the phone into airplane
I don't know any pilots who actually go to the extreme of turning
phones completely off. You would not want to have to boot one up if
you need it.
Today I did a +2 and 0 g demo. Nothing happened other than some
smiles from the passenger. Either it was not enough to set it off or
airplane mode turns off the alerts.
mode.
You admit you broke the rules.
No, if airplane mode turns off the alert it would not have gone off. CAP has airplane mode on the pre-start brief.
On 2022-10-20 18:19, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:09:00 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-15 18:01, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:39:03 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:I'm shocked.
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2 issuesYou mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use of
that any prior beta should have been uncovered! Roller
coasters and vigorous exercise set off the new emergency
notifications! And the one I found, CarPlay phone calls could >>>>>>> not be heard by those you called. That was just fixed in the
16.0.3 release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing 16.0.3
yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if a high G
airplane maneuver will be accompanied by emergency vehicles
meeting me at the airport!
cellular phones while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
The FCC disagrees.You ignored this:
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a
particular device on the navigation and communication system of
the aircraft on which it is to be used or operated must, in case
of an aircraft operated by the holder of an air carrier
certificate or other operating certificate, be made by that
operator (i.e., certificate holder). In all other cases, a
determination must be made by the operator and/or by the
pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently prohibits
the use of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to airline
passengers.
Right.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private aircraft I have >>>>> never seen an interference issue.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
Having a phone on is not a problem. I was assuming the crash alerts
work just fine in airplane mode. Do they? Since it's a sat-phone
subsystem I assume so.
You break the rules when it suits you, you little shit.
So you admit that you weren't previously putting the phone into airplane >> mode.
I don't know any pilots who actually go to the extreme of turning
phones completely off. You would not want to have to boot one up if
you need it.
Today I did a +2 and 0 g demo. Nothing happened other than some
smiles from the passenger. Either it was not enough to set it off or
airplane mode turns off the alerts.
You admit you broke the rules.
No, if airplane mode turns off the alert it would not have gone off. CAP has airplane mode on the pre-start brief.But your statements clearly indicate you fly with airplane mode off...
On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:28:08 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:I'm shocked.
On 2022-10-20 18:19, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:09:00 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
On 2022-10-15 18:01, Thomas E. wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:39:03 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
On 2022-10-15 14:35, Thomas E. wrote:
On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 5:40:31 PM UTC-4, Alan
wrote:
On 2022-10-11 14:10, Thomas E. wrote:
It was released to the public as 16.0. Ha. At least 2You mean you break FAA regulations regarding the use
issues that any prior beta should have been
uncovered! Roller coasters and vigorous exercise set
off the new emergency notifications! And the one I
found, CarPlay phone calls could not be heard by
those you called. That was just fixed in the 16.0.3
release. Did anyone even try CarPlay calls using
16.0???? My first CarPlay call after installing
16.0.3 yesterday was just fine. Now I'm wondering if
a high G airplane maneuver will be accompanied by
emergency vehicles meeting me at the airport!
of cellular phones while in flight, Liarboy?
<https://www.faa.gov/documentlibrary/media/advisory_circular/ac_91.21-1b.pdf>
But your statements clearly indicate you fly with airplane modeThe FCC disagrees.You ignored this:
Don't bother yourself. I'm not flying an airliner.
"The determination of an interfering effect caused by a
particular device on the navigation and communication
system of the aircraft on which it is to be used or
operated must, in case of an aircraft operated by the
holder of an air carrier certificate or other operating
certificate, be made by that operator (i.e., certificate
holder). In all other cases, a determination must be made
by the operator and/or by the pilot-in-command (PIC)."
'The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) currently
prohibits the use of cell phones while airborne.'
I'm not seeing where that prohibition is limited to
airline passengers.
Right.
In 20 years of flying with cell phones in private
aircraft I have never seen an interference issue.
As always, you're for following the rules...
...unless you deem it appropriate to break them.
Having a phone on is not a problem. I was assuming the crash
alerts work just fine in airplane mode. Do they? Since it's a
sat-phone subsystem I assume so.
You break the rules when it suits you, you little shit.
So you admit that you weren't previously putting the phone into
I don't know any pilots who actually go to the extreme of
turning phones completely off. You would not want to have to
boot one up if you need it.
Today I did a +2 and 0 g demo. Nothing happened other than
some smiles from the passenger. Either it was not enough to
set it off or airplane mode turns off the alerts.
airplane mode.
You admit you broke the rules.
No, if airplane mode turns off the alert it would not have gone
off. CAP has airplane mode on the pre-start brief.
off...
The subject of the thread is accidental triggering of an emergency
call via iPhone's new satellite-based comms channel. Having nothing
of substance to contribute you launch an attack on the thread
originator. Despicable. And you do this all the time.
It does not matter if my phone is off, in airplane mode, or not. Your sociopathic pattern has always been to launch a diversionary personal
attack when faced with a challenging question.
A little thinking about the Apple presentation on this new capability
implies that no cell phone reception is necessary. After all, if your
cell connection was working you could just call 911. So, if in
airplane mode you could be connected via satellite. Otherwise, what's
the point? If your phone is powered down or has a dead battery then
you are out of luck.
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