1. Forum
  2. Usenet
  3. COMP.SYS.MAC.ADVOCACY

  • Re: How is this possible????

    From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to sms on Sun Apr 24 02:12:14 2022
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    sms wrote:

    But seriously, throughout the years Intel has gone in and out of the SOC business multiple times. I guess that they feel that it's time to try again.

    Let's look at the facts and ignore the hyperbolic advertising Apple does.
    *TSMC SILICON!!!!!!!*

    The smartphone makers who don't bother to invest their R&D dollars in a
    foundry are held captive to using "someone else's fab", such as TSMC, Tower/AMD/Global, UMC, SMIC, Samsung, etc. (e.g., Powership, VIS, HHS,
    HiTek, Intel, etc.).

    Apple is one of those companies who doesn't spend any R&D dollars for a fab. Samsung isn't.

    Apple must buy all their critical technology from others (e.g., ARM,
    Qualcomm, etc.) and even then, Apple can't even figure out how to integrate something as trivial as a modem into their main SOC (even today they can't).

    Why?
    I don't know why.

    I suspect it's because Apple likely spends ten times more on marketing that they're a design house than actually spending the R&D dollars to _be_ one.

    Big deal. *_TSMC SILICON_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* (woo hoo... ... not)
    --
    Apple is a marketing powerhouse but their design abilities are pitiful.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Andy Burnelli on Sat Apr 23 21:04:53 2022
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2022-04-23 6:12 p.m., Andy Burnelli wrote:
    sms wrote:

    But seriously, throughout the years Intel has gone in and out of the
    SOC business multiple times. I guess that they feel that it's time to
    try again.

    Let's look at the facts and ignore the hyperbolic advertising Apple does.
      *TSMC SILICON!!!!!!!*

    Does TSMC design it?

    The smartphone makers who don't bother to invest their R&D dollars in a foundry are held captive to using "someone else's fab", such as TSMC, Tower/AMD/Global, UMC, SMIC, Samsung, etc. (e.g., Powership, VIS, HHS,
    HiTek, Intel, etc.).

    Apple is one of those companies who doesn't spend any R&D dollars for a
    fab.
    Samsung isn't.

    Yet Apple's chips are miles better than Samsung's


    Apple must buy all their critical technology from others (e.g., ARM, Qualcomm, etc.) and even then, Apple can't even figure out how to integrate something as trivial as a modem into their main SOC (even today they
    can't).

    Apple doesn't buy technology from ARM.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Apr 24 09:01:58 2022
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system

    In message <t42i96$v4h$[email protected]> Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
    Apple doesn't buy technology from ARM.

    Everything the Arlen says is at best 100% wrong, but mostly it is all 100% lies.

    The fact that Apple has kicked Intel's ass thoroughly and decisively
    makes the Arlen cry, so S/he/i has to lash out like the petulant toddler s/he/it is.

    --
    Because you can't cotton to evil. No Sir. You have to smack evil on
    the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of justice and say, 'Bad
    evil. Bad BAD evil"'

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)