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  • Just for info, WebP

    From Dave@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 08:13:54 2023
    Good day all,
    This is just a bit of Info for anyone RISC OS who has not bumped into a
    WebP file. (Yet).

    "Someone", sent me some images, as they do, without a resize, and in a
    format that RISC OS cannot read or display.

    Not a problem for me as I work on both sides of the OS divide, and am well aware of this file format.

    It's "WebP" which is a Google raster graphics format they'd like us to use
    to replace PNG and GIF file formats and maybe even Jpegs.

    Many graphics apps on the PC side can load and convert this file format to
    a file format usable on RISC OS.

    IrfanView
    PaintShop Pro
    PhotoShop
    Windows Paint.

    Various Win side browser can also display WebP files.

    Edge
    Chrome
    Firefox

    Dave :-/

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Sep 15 10:55:09 2023
    In message <[email protected]>
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    Good day all,
    This is just a bit of Info for anyone RISC OS who has not bumped into a
    WebP file. (Yet).

    "Someone", sent me some images, as they do, without a resize, and in a
    format that RISC OS cannot read or display.

    Not a problem for me as I work on both sides of the OS divide, and am well aware of this file format.

    It's "WebP" which is a Google raster graphics format they'd like us to use
    to replace PNG and GIF file formats and maybe even Jpegs.

    Many graphics apps on the PC side can load and convert this file format to
    a file format usable on RISC OS.

    IrfanView
    PaintShop Pro
    PhotoShop
    Windows Paint.

    Various Win side browser can also display WebP files.

    Edge
    Chrome
    Firefox

    Just for information Dave, the Iris web browser can handle webp images on
    RISC OS.

    There is also a filetype setup for it &A66


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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Fri Sep 15 19:02:14 2023
    In article <11d139e45a.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:
    [Snippy]

    Just for information Dave, the Iris web browser can handle webp images
    on RISC OS.

    There is also a filetype setup for it &A66

    Useful addition to the info Chris.

    Dave

    But, I can't run Iris because I run on Virtual RISC OS. :-)

    D.

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Sep 15 23:23:01 2023
    In article <11d139e45a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In message <[email protected]> Dave <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Good day all, This is just a bit of Info for anyone RISC OS who has
    not bumped into a WebP file. (Yet).

    <snip>

    Just for information Dave, the Iris web browser can handle webp images
    on RISC OS.

    There is also a filetype setup for it &A66

    Thanks Chris.

    On the FAST with R 5.29 I've put image/WebP &A66 among all the
    other image listings on my MimeMap (Tim Hill's version in Boot. Resources.Internet.Files.) Is that right?

    Strangely, on the Virtual Acorn adjust 4.39, Locate found 4 instances of MimeMap thus..



    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap
    22 Jul 2020 This is the TimHill one.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap
    14 Oct 2007 one entry only
    application/x-shockwave-flash Flash 188 .swf

    I have no idea what this is for.

    The next two are modules. R 5 doesn't seem to have them.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    I'm puzzled. (Usual state of affairs.)

    Regards,

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    Chris

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Sep 16 11:55:24 2023
    In message <[email protected]>
    Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <11d139e45a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In message <[email protected]> Dave <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    Good day all, This is just a bit of Info for anyone RISC OS who has
    not bumped into a WebP file. (Yet).

    <snip>

    Just for information Dave, the Iris web browser can handle webp images
    on RISC OS.

    There is also a filetype setup for it &A66

    Thanks Chris.

    On the FAST with R 5.29 I've put image/WebP &A66 among all the
    other image listings on my MimeMap (Tim Hill's version in Boot. Resources.Internet.Files.) Is that right?

    That looks right.

    Note: I found what filetype it was from a posting on the ROOL forum.

    Strangely, on the Virtual Acorn adjust 4.39, Locate found 4 instances of MimeMap thus..



    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap
    22 Jul 2020 This is the TimHill one.

    That will be the valid one here.

    But do remember that Virtual Acorn has its own MimeMap from the windowed Virtual Acorn - I think that is actually the master for VA.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap
    14 Oct 2007 one entry only
    application/x-shockwave-flash Flash 188 .swf

    Thats to do with the very old Flash Player! I doubt there is now any need
    for it or for Flash program on VA.

    I have no idea what this is for.

    The next two are modules. R 5 doesn't seem to have them.

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

    I'm puzzled. (Usual state of affairs.)

    Leave these alone they are modules not Mimemap type text files





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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Sep 16 12:49:08 2023
    On 16 Sep, Chris Hughes wrote in message
    <192bc3e45a.chris@mytardis>:

    In message <[email protected]>
    Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

    On the FAST with R 5.29 I've put image/WebP &A66 among all the
    other image listings on my MimeMap (Tim Hill's version in Boot. Resources.Internet.Files.) Is that right?

    That looks right.

    Does it? I'd have expected something more like

    image/webp WebP a66 .webp

    where WebP in the middle is the RISC OS filetype name (as given in a ROOL
    forum post). There's no & on the numerical filetype in this file, as the
    value is always given in hexadecimal.

    [snip]

    HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap
    14 Oct 2007 one entry only
    application/x-shockwave-flash Flash 188 .swf

    Thats to do with the very old Flash Player! I doubt there is now any need
    for it or for Flash program on VA.

    It's a document in the Docs folder of the Flash Player application,
    documenting what you would add to your live MimeMap file if you wanted it to recognise Flash files. Just because a file has the name MimeMap, doesn't
    mean that it is actually being used as by the MimeMap module -- or even that
    it is a mappings file.

    What matters is where the Inet$MimeMappings variable is pointing: that's the *only* file that MimeMap will be using. On the RO5 machine here, it's set to InetDBase:MimeMap; consequently, looking up InedDBase$Path tells me where
    the file is located.

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Richard Ashbery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 21:19:19 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, Dave <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    In article <11d139e45a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
    <[email protected]> wrote: [Snippy]

    Just for information Dave, the Iris web browser can handle webp
    images on RISC OS.

    There is also a filetype setup for it &A66

    Useful addition to the info Chris.

    Dave

    But, I can't run Iris because I run on Virtual RISC OS. :-)

    Ahh! This could be a problem as I was going to suggest the excellent
    !CLFiler program by Cloverleaf. It has a built-in image viewer which
    reads quite a few non-RISC OS image file formats like webp. It works
    in conjunction with !ImageMagick running under RISC OS 5.29 which makes
    me think its unlikely that !CLFiler or !ImageMagick will run under
    Virtual RISC OS. Can anyone clarify?

    Richard

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Sep 17 14:43:18 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, Steve Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    What matters is where the Inet$MimeMappings variable is pointing:
    that's the *only* file that MimeMap will be using. On the RO5 machine
    here, it's set to InetDBase:MimeMap; consequently, looking up
    InedDBase$Path tells me where the file is located.

    Thanks for the info Steve et al.

    How does one go about checking this variable.? Is it a search involving
    the Task Window?

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    Chris

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  • From Ian@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sun Sep 17 15:34:32 2023
    On Sun, 17 Sep 2023 14:43:18 +0100
    Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>, Steve
    Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    What matters is where the Inet$MimeMappings variable is pointing:
    that's the *only* file that MimeMap will be using. On the RO5
    machine here, it's set to InetDBase:MimeMap; consequently, looking
    up InetDBase$Path tells me where the file is located.

    Thanks for the info Steve et al.

    How does one go about checking this variable.? Is it a search
    involving the Task Window?


    *Show Inet*

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sun Sep 17 15:16:11 2023
    On 17 Sep, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <[email protected]>:

    In article <[email protected]>, Steve Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    What matters is where the Inet$MimeMappings variable is pointing: that's the *only* file that MimeMap will be using. On the RO5 machine here,
    it's set to InetDBase:MimeMap; consequently, looking up InedDBase$Path
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ahem. That should be InetDBase$Path, of course...

    tells me where the file is located.

    Thanks for the info Steve et al.

    How does one go about checking this variable.? Is it a search involving
    the Task Window?

    (Ctrl-)F12 and then

    Show Inet*

    should probably cover both variables (and a few others, too). Or you could
    type them out in full, as

    Show Inet$MimeMappings
    Show InetDBase$Path

    --
    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Sep 18 18:32:36 2023
    In article <[email protected]>, Steve Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 17 Sep, Chris Newman wrote in message <[email protected]>:

    In article <[email protected]>, Steve
    Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:

    <snip>

    What matters is where the Inet$MimeMappings variable is pointing:
    that's the *only* file that MimeMap will be using. On the RO5
    machine here, it's set to InetDBase:MimeMap; consequently, looking
    up InedDBase$Path

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ahem. That should be InetDBase$Path, of course...

    tells me where the file is located.

    Thanks for the info Steve et al.

    How does one go about checking this variable.? Is it a search
    involving the Task Window?

    (Ctrl-)F12 and then

    Show Inet*

    should probably cover both variables (and a few others, too). Or you
    could type them out in full, as

    Show Inet$MimeMappings Show InetDBase$Path

    Ta.

    --
    Chris

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