• MS Flight Simulator 2020

    From Juergen Nieveler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 20 15:43:30 2020
    So... anyone left here to discuss the latest version of the venerable
    old
    Flight Sim?

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  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to Juergen Nieveler on Tue Jul 28 16:19:13 2020
    On Jul 20, 2020, Juergen Nieveler wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    So... anyone left here to discuss the latest version of the venerable
    old
    Flight Sim?

    Has there been any mention of Microsoft coming out with a Mac version of
    their flight sim?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 14 20:56:43 2020
    On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:19:13 -0700, RonTheGuy <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Jul 20, 2020, Juergen Nieveler wrote
    (in article<[email protected]>):

    So... anyone left here to discuss the latest version of the venerable
    old
    Flight Sim?

    Has there been any mention of Microsoft coming out with a Mac version of >their flight sim?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

    Heh :) Hi humble Ron, not going to get all platformy on you or
    anything, but want to deliver you the honest truth.

    With Apple announcing they are going to start basing Macs on
    processors that were originally designed for smartphones, the Mac saw
    its maximum potential as gaming hardware a few years ago, and even
    then it was non-impressive. Apple doesn't want you to game on Macs,
    iOS gaming is lucrative for them and Mac gaming is not because they
    are not in PC's league there.

    Macs were not competitive with Windows PC performance even on Intel processors.... yes the magazines showed nice benchmarks but they did
    not show the throttling that occurs in Macbooks/iMacs etc under
    sustained heat (from gaming or other high performance apps), nor did
    they reveal that the computer gets incrementally slower for each
    minute that you put it under high load. Mac Pros got pretty good
    performance for high-load apps if you were willing to spend ten grand
    on them.

    Microsoft Flight Simulator or any other graphically intensive game is
    going to tax your hardware. So you are looking at a situation where
    you need a $10k Mac to perform like a $2k PC (not in isolated
    benchmarks but over more than a few minutes of play at a time).

    Apple does well at building "pretty" computers that sell well... they
    are in touch with consumer design preferences. Unfortunately this is
    at odds with gaming performance.

    It's not to say Microsoft will NEVER create a Mac version of Flight
    Sim, but I see them using this as the killer app that draws Mac users
    back to PC (and playstation users back to XBox), and the fact that
    Apple is moving away from Intel processors makes this all the more
    likely.

    If you want to game at the high end and get the most out of games like Microsoft Flight Simulator, you'll need a Windows 10 PC with decent
    hardware. Even once the new Xbox is released, there will be thermal limitations due to limited airflow from a case designed to look good
    in the living room. A good performing PC isn't always the prettiest
    thing (it can be but doesn't need to be, and most people don't care
    when its under a desk or table anyway).

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Oct 20 20:07:27 2020
    On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:43:30 +0200, Juergen Nieveler <[email protected]> wrote:

    So... anyone left here to discuss the latest version of the venerable
    old
    Flight Sim?

    *--

    Is there a way to stop it from updating itself? The downloads from
    their servers are extremely slow.

    I had no idea that I had to download planes to be able to fly them, or
    download the tutorials to be able to take them!

    What the heck was included in the huge install file that took me weeks
    to download? A couple little planes!

    -pw

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