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  • Squeak 4.42 crashes on Risc OS 5.28

    From Ralf@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 2 06:14:17 2022
    After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
    Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak (which
    i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered Versions 4.0 and
    4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both with the message
    "Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".

    Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a hint
    how to resolve that problem?

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Apr 3 21:00:22 2022
    In article <[email protected]>, Ralf
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
    Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak
    (which i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered
    Versions 4.0 and 4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both
    with the message "Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".

    Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a
    hint how to resolve that problem?

    Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

    --
    Chris Newman

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  • From Doug Webb@21:1/5 to Ralf on Mon Apr 4 12:12:02 2022
    In message <[email protected]>
    Ralf <[email protected]> wrote:

    After some time with other systems i now returned after a long time to
    Risc OS on a Raspberry Pi. I wanted to get again going with Squeak (which
    i had running on Riscos some time ago), but both offered Versions 4.0 and 4.42 are crashing when i try to start them... both with the message
    "Illegal Window Handle" and "Return Code to large".

    Has anyone perhaps encountered a similiar problem and can me give a hint
    how to resolve that problem?
    Hi Ralf,

    I do get the occasional issue you mention on 4.4 though 4.6 does seem more stable and I have recently updated it via the built in update.

    A reboot usually cures it.

    This is both on a ARMX6 and RaspberryPi4 running 5.29.

    I also have Scratch 1.4 running here as well.

    I did have some correspondance with Tim Rowledge about Squeak and Scratch
    and he did some updates about 3 years back as one of the MUG members very kindly provided him with an updated ROOL C update.


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    Experience the future using ARM Technology - ARMBook,BeagleBoard -xM, PandaBoard,Raspberry Pi,iMX6/ARMX6,IGEPv5 & Titanium powered by RISC OS
    5.28.

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  • From Doug Webb@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 4 14:36:29 2022
    I do get the occasional issue you mention on 4.4 though 4.6 does seem more stable and I have recently updated it via the built in update.

    A reboot usually cures it.

    I have now altered the free object memory set aside when starting from
    160Mb to 240Mb

    /<Squeak$Dir>.!RunImage -memory:240m %*0

    The change can be set in the !Run file as well as you can push it to use DynamicArea memory even on RISCOS 5 with the -useDA attribute.

    Just read the attribute bits in the !Run file and alter as required.

    Hope that helps



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    Experience the future using ARM Technology - ARMBook,BeagleBoard -xM, PandaBoard,Raspberry Pi,iMX6/ARMX6,IGEPv5 & Titanium powered by RISC OS
    5.28.

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  • From Ralf@21:1/5 to Chris Newman on Sat Apr 2 09:03:31 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

    Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

    Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If you
    are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth ist.

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  • From Ralf@21:1/5 to Doug Webb on Sat Apr 2 08:59:57 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Doug Webb <[email protected]> wrote:


    Hope that helps


    Hi, thank you for your tips! After all, i (ssemingly) found the issue in a different corner... at least now it runs: I had my OS running in ARMv5 compatibility mode, i just tried to set it to ARMv7 strict mode, and now
    Squeak runs perfectly stable.

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Apr 6 17:09:10 2022
    In article <[email protected]>, Ralf
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

    Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If
    you are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth ist.

    Ta.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Ralf on Wed Apr 6 18:31:07 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Ralf <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

    Excuse my ignorance but what is "Squeak?"

    Squeak is a Smalltalk dialect, an really nice to work with that is. If you are interested a look at https://www.squeak.org may be worth

    Apparently it's another programming language so why not say so?

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Ralf@21:1/5 to Stuart on Fri Apr 8 19:52:22 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:

    Apparently it's another programming language so why not say so?

    Its... complicated ;-) Yes, smalltalk (and Squeak as its subset) is - on
    the one hand - just another programming language, on the other hand its a complete programming environment, a virtual machine with a complete
    desktop environment (or better: it could be used in this way)...

    Its just a whole lot stuff to fanboy about.

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