I wanted to express my thanks to those who made LanMan98 freely
available.

The drive in my NAS failed at the weekend and I had been using it with
SunFish from RISC OS but have had to resort today to sharing folders on a
WinPC instead, like the olden days. I couldn't get LanManFS in Omni to
make a connection (grrrrrrrr) as I think that it only works with SMB (?)
and Win7-64's default seems to not provide it and only CIFS which
LanMan98 understands.

I'm sure I could configure Windows to SMB or install an NFS server but I
have spent long enough rebuilding a few things that weren't backups and I
have wasted time on those two things before!!

I think that's the first occasion I have ever managed to network to a PC
at the first attempt (though I did follow the read-me).

If ever it's likely to be updated, there is one bit of functionality
that seems to be missing from the stand-alone version: files dropped on
the iconbar icon are not saved to the root of the share.

Thanks again though. Lifesaver!

--

Tim Hill
Webmaster, https://timil.com

websites : php : RISC OS

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It's in constant use here. When changing the various Windows machine here
to Win10, it was about the only thing that talked to them. They were
rather reluctant to talk to one another.


In article <[email protected]>,
Tim Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

I wanted to express my thanks to those who made LanMan98 freely
available.

The drive in my NAS failed at the weekend and I had been using it with SunFish from RISC OS but have had to resort today to sharing folders on a WinPC instead, like the olden days. I couldn't get LanManFS in Omni to
make a connection (grrrrrrrr) as I think that it only works with SMB (?)
and Win7-64's default seems to not provide it and only CIFS which
LanMan98 understands.

I'm sure I could configure Windows to SMB or install an NFS server but I
have spent long enough rebuilding a few things that weren't backups and I have wasted time on those two things before!!

I think that's the first occasion I have ever managed to network to a PC
at the first attempt (though I did follow the read-me).

If ever it's likely to be updated, there is one bit of functionality
that seems to be missing from the stand-alone version: files dropped on
the iconbar icon are not saved to the root of the share.

Thanks again though. Lifesaver!

--
*I'm not a paranoid, deranged millionaire. Dammit, I'm a billionaire.

Dave Plowman [email protected] London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article <[email protected]>, Tim Hill <[email protected]>
wrote:

I wanted to express my thanks to those who made LanMan98 freely
available.

[Snip]

My early euphoria may have been misplaced. :-(

In rebuilding my single-(failed)-drive NAS, 12,849 files consisting of
about 11GB has to be transferred from a RISC OS (Iyonix) hard drive to
the new RAID1 NAS. Whether a copy is attempted in one lump or one-by-one
of ten tree-topping directories each of about the same size, LanMan98
barfed and lost its connection part-way though the transfer *every* time.
[rage face]

Thank goodness for FTPc. It's transferring the files and not throwing a
wobbly. I just wish the process was a bit quicker than its reported peak
of about 3600 kps. :-)

--

Tim Hill
Webmaster, https://timil.com

websites : php : RISC OS

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In message <[email protected]>
Tim Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

In rebuilding my single-(failed)-drive NAS, 12,849 files consisting of
about 11GB has to be transferred from a RISC OS (Iyonix) hard drive to
the new RAID1 NAS. Whether a copy is attempted in one lump or one-by-one
of ten tree-topping directories each of about the same size, LanMan98
barfed and lost its connection part-way though the transfer *every* time. [rage face]

Check LanMan98 Run file and comment out the following line and try again
:

Set LanMan98$ReadRaw ""

As documented Raw Reads can cause issues and it resulted in copying
failures on my NAS and once I commented out that line and rebooted i had
no issues since and thats with over 400Gb of data backed up.

Doug

--
Experience the future using ARM Technology - ARMBook,BeagleBoard -xM, PandaBoard,Raspberry Pi,iMX6/ARMX6,IGEPv5 & Titanium powered by RISC OS
5.28.

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In article <[email protected]>, Doug Webb <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Tim Hill <[email protected]>
wrote:

[Snip]

LanMan98 barfed and lost its connection part-way though the
transfer *every* time. [rage face]

Check LanMan98 Run file

Oh, duh. I was looking for something in !Help or a settings file about
writing files!

and comment out the following line and try again
:

Set LanMan98$ReadRaw ""

As documented Raw Reads can cause issues and it resulted in copying
failures on my NAS and once I commented out that line and rebooted i
had no issues since and thats with over 400Gb of data backed up.

Thanks for the pointer and reassurance, Doug. I have made the bulk
transfer so will have to wait and see how this pans out. I don't know
whether raw reads affect writing to the NAS.

T

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In message <[email protected]>
Tim Hill <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Doug Webb <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Tim Hill <[email protected]>
wrote:

[Snip]

LanMan98 barfed and lost its connection part-way though the transfer *every* time. [rage face]

Check LanMan98 Run file

Oh, duh. I was looking for something in !Help or a settings file about writing files!

and comment out the following line and try again :

Set LanMan98$ReadRaw ""

As documented Raw Reads can cause issues and it resulted in copying failures on my NAS and once I commented out that line and rebooted i had
no issues since and thats with over 400Gb of data backed up.

Thanks for the pointer and reassurance, Doug. I have made the bulk transfer so will have to wait and see how this pans out. I don't know whether raw reads affect writing to the NAS.

I routinely use LanMan98 to back up gigabytes to NAS, without trouble.
I can confirm that the line is commented out in my installation.

David

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In article <983e032759.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Tim Hill <[email protected]>
wrote:

[Snip]

Thanks for the pointer and reassurance, Doug. I have made the bulk
transfer so will have to wait and see how this pans out. I don't know whether raw reads affect writing to the NAS.

I routinely use LanMan98 to back up gigabytes to NAS, without trouble.
I can confirm that the line is commented out in my installation.

Thanks for the confirmation. I can't help thinking that raw reads also
mean raw writes.

This is one of those "If you want green, enable orange" kind of settings.
;-)

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In article <983e032759.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <[email protected]> wrote:

I routinely use LanMan98 to back up gigabytes to NAS, without trouble.
I can confirm that the line is commented out in my installation.

I have the same experience as David, but without the line in question being commented out.

However, when I just received my new 4t�, I did encounter the same problems
as the ones described by Tim (lost connections *every* time, or even no connection at all). With help from Andrew Rawnsley and a lot of trial and
error with switches and EGE*** settings, I finally managed to establish a stable connection.

Perhaps all this fiddling might not have been necessary, if I knew about
that particular line in LM98's !Run file, but on the other hand, my
connection now is not only very reliable, but also a really fast one. I
timed a large transfer from my NAS at 351 Mbps! So it might be worth trying
a bit more than just commenting out that line. But perhaps my former
problem isn't related to Tim's, although they look similar.

Kind regards,
Paul Sprangers

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The date being 26 Apr 2021, Tim Hill <[email protected]> decided to
write:

I wanted to express my thanks to those who made LanMan98 freely
available.

Yes indeed, I've had it for a long time and it's invaluable.

There's one problem I hope someone can throw some light on. I use NAS and stand-alone LM98 for transferring files to/from my iMac and for backing up
my ARMX6 with SafeStore. Sometimes I'm unable to delete directories from
the ARMX6 although I can delete their contents. I've tried changing the
access permissions but to no avail. However if I go back to the iMac I can delete those directories from NAS easily.

This isn't anything new. I have one or two directories which I renamed to
get them out of the way because I couldn't delete them.

I seem to recall that I once had file sharing with MacOS working but
updates from Apple put the kybosh on it.

--
Richard Porter

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Hi folks,

On my FAST and RiscPC I have LanMan98 2.06, the last WarmSilence version.
It works perfectly with all my Windows machines.

In the spirit of keeping up with developments, I downloaded 2.08 the
RISC OS Developments Open Source release version.
The installation notes don't say if I can just copy this over my old
version to save all that setting up again.
I looked in Boot.Choices and no LanMan so I presume all its parameters
are stored within the programme.
Any help and advice gratefully received.

--
Chris

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On 17 Jun, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

I looked in Boot.Choices and no LanMan so I presume all its parameters
are stored within the programme.
Any help and advice gratefully received.

The settings are stored within the !LanMan98.Discs folder.

I would suggest backing that up before installing the later version just
in case.
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Q. What do you get when you play a country music record backwards?
A. You get your job back, you get your wife back, you get your car...

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In article <[email protected]>,
Brian Howlett <[email protected]> wrote:

On 17 Jun, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

I looked in Boot.Choices and no LanMan so I presume all its
parameters are stored within the programme. Any help and advice
gratefully received.

The settings are stored within the !LanMan98.Discs folder.

I would suggest backing that up before installing the later version
just in case.

I think that may depend on how LM98 is installed - standalone or
within Omni. My !LanMan98.Discs directory is empty, but mine is
installed for use within Omni. All my mounts are stored within the
normal Choices:Omni.Mounts file. I will try and dig deeper tomorrow.

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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On 17 Jun, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

I think that may depend on how LM98 is installed - standalone or
within Omni. My !LanMan98.Discs directory is empty, but mine is
installed for use within Omni. All my mounts are stored within the
normal Choices:Omni.Mounts file. I will try and dig deeper tomorrow.

I'm using it stand-alone.
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen ----------------------------------------------------------------------
When I told the folks back home that I was coming to Auchtermuchty,
they said "Wear the fox hat"...

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In message <[email protected]>
Brian Howlett <[email protected]> wrote:

On 17 Jun, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

I think that may depend on how LM98 is installed - standalone or
within Omni. My !LanMan98.Discs directory is empty, but mine is
installed for use within Omni. All my mounts are stored within the
normal Choices:Omni.Mounts file. I will try and dig deeper tomorrow.

I'm using it stand-alone.

Indeed I do as well.

From the Readme file with LanMan 2.08, it says the following:

Installation for use as a standalone application ================================================
LanMan98 2.07 onwards is supplied ready-to-use as a standalone RISC OS application, and does not need to be modified in any way before use.
Simply copy !LanMan98 to your main drive - perhaps in the Network(ing)
folder, or Apps. Whenever you wish to use !LanMan98, just double-click
the application, or better still place the application in your !Boot,
inside the Choices.Boot.Tasks directory, so that it will be invoked automatically when you switch on your computer.




--
Chris Hughes

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In article <507bd22e5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]>
Brian Howlett <[email protected]> wrote:

On 17 Jun, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

I think that may depend on how LM98 is installed - standalone or
within Omni. My !LanMan98.Discs directory is empty, but mine is
installed for use within Omni. All my mounts are stored within the
normal Choices:Omni.Mounts file. I will try and dig deeper tomorrow.

I'm using it stand-alone.

Indeed I do as well.

From the Readme file with LanMan 2.08, it says the following:

Installation for use as a standalone application ================================================
LanMan98 2.07 onwards is supplied ready-to-use as a standalone RISC OS application, and does not need to be modified in any way before use.
Simply copy !LanMan98 to your main drive - perhaps in the Network(ing) folder, or Apps. Whenever you wish to use !LanMan98, just double-click
the application, or better still place the application in your !Boot,
inside the Choices.Boot.Tasks directory, so that it will be invoked automatically when you switch on your computer.

Yes. I've read all that.

I use LanMan stand alone. It is loaded using the Run list in
Configuration.
If I drop the new LanMan over the old will it update nicely or will I
lose Local Name, Server name, Share etc that I set up when first using it?

--
Chris

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In message <[email protected]>
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <507bd22e5c.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]>
Brian Howlett <[email protected]> wrote:

On 17 Jun, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

I think that may depend on how LM98 is installed - standalone or
within Omni. My !LanMan98.Discs directory is empty, but mine is
installed for use within Omni. All my mounts are stored within the
normal Choices:Omni.Mounts file. I will try and dig deeper tomorrow.

I'm using it stand-alone.

Indeed I do as well.

From the Readme file with LanMan 2.08, it says the following:

Installation for use as a standalone application
================================================
LanMan98 2.07 onwards is supplied ready-to-use as a standalone RISC OS
application, and does not need to be modified in any way before use.
Simply copy !LanMan98 to your main drive - perhaps in the Network(ing)
folder, or Apps. Whenever you wish to use !LanMan98, just double-click
the application, or better still place the application in your !Boot,
inside the Choices.Boot.Tasks directory, so that it will be invoked
automatically when you switch on your computer.

Yes. I've read all that.

I use LanMan stand alone. It is loaded using the Run list in
Configuration.
If I drop the new LanMan over the old will it update nicely or will I
lose Local Name, Server name, Share etc that I set up when first using it?

Well I would just follow the golden rules. Make a backup of your current version somewhere safe (I assume you do regular backups of your programs anyway).

The standalone version has a 'Discs' folder within it with all your drive connections.

Once backed up just drop the new version on the old and then check you
still have your discs folder contents within the updated LanMan98.

Remember to reboot before using the new version to make sure everything
starts cleanly.


--
Chris Hughes

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In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

I use LanMan stand alone. It is loaded using the Run list in
Configuration.
If I drop the new LanMan over the old will it update nicely or will I
lose Local Name, Server name, Share etc that I set up when first using it?

I use it stand alone as well. On updating I save the working version
where it can't be seen (for reversion) and install the new version as
supplied to get around any problems with changed files. If you then copy
the contents of the Discs directory from the old version to the new
version it should just work as before.

Richard Darby

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