Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're moving
things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

--
Chris

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In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're moving
things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for Pinboard 2.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t�
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

There is something to bring it to the front if it does get covered, a key combination, Shift/F12. This is now built-in.

The action toggles the situation. Taking the pointer to the bottom of the screen also brings the icon bar forward.

These existing possibilities may render your request unnecessary.

John

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In article <668abbd9$0$3321$[email protected]>, John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

There is something to bring it to the front if it does get covered, a
key combination, Shift/F12. This is now built-in.

The action toggles the situation. Taking the pointer to the bottom of
the screen also brings the icon bar forward.

These existing possibilities may render your request unnecessary.

Thank you. Now discovered. Brilliant, ta. Why have I never discovered
those before. Duh!

Are they part of the os now or done by Pinboard 2.02? (which I have.)

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Chris

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In article <[email protected]>, charles <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught trying
to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was demonstrated but
it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02 (What happened to
2.03?)

--
Chris

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On 7 Jul 2024 as I do recall,
Chris Newman wrote:

In article <668abbd9$0$3321$[email protected]>, John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped windows covering it.

There is something to bring it to the front if it does get covered, a
key combination, Shift/F12. This is now built-in.

The action toggles the situation. Taking the pointer to the bottom of
the screen also brings the icon bar forward.

These existing possibilities may render your request unnecessary.

Thank you. Now discovered. Brilliant, ta. Why have I never discovered
those before. Duh!

I think Shift-F12 has been around since RISC OS 3.1 - the mouse-pointer-to-bottom-of-screen shortcut is newer.

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

Confession is good for the soul, but bad for the career.

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In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02 (What happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show pinboard
hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins and
iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

--
Chris

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In message <[email protected]>
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02 (What
happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show pinboard
hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins and
iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes I seem to remember showing that in my talk as well.

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Chris Hughes

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In message <668abbd9$0$3321$[email protected]>
"John Williams (News)" <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

There is something to bring it to the front if it does get covered, a key >combination, Shift/F12. This is now built-in.

The action toggles the situation. Taking the pointer to the bottom of the >screen also brings the icon bar forward.

These existing possibilities may render your request unnecessary.

My form filling application called Ffiller can also do this with a press
of a button.

http://kevsoft.co.uk/

John

--
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/ https://ko-fi.com/kevsoft
carpe cervisium
For a quart of ale is a dish for a king.

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In message <[email protected]>
Jean-Michel <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]>
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02 (What
happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show pinboard
hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins and
iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes, I would like a keyboard shortcut, for example the Windows key to
select "show pinboard", or a click on the task bar by pressing this key.
To do (for me).

If I understand what you want correctly, this option already exists within Pinboard 2 in the 'Miscellaneous' tab.

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Chris Hughes

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In message <[email protected]>
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles
<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped
windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02 (What
happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show pinboard
hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins and
iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes, I would like a keyboard shortcut, for example the Windows key to
select "show pinboard", or a click on the task bar by pressing this key.
To do (for me).

--
Jean-Michel

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In article <1b64aa7d5b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Jean-Michel
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> In article <[email protected]>, charles

<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped >>>>> windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not
covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02
(What happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show
pinboard hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins
and iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes, I would like a keyboard shortcut, for example the Windows key to select "show pinboard", or a click on the task bar by pressing this
key. To do (for me).

If I understand what you want correctly, this option already exists
within Pinboard 2 in the 'Miscellaneous' tab.

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t�
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In message <[email protected]>
charles <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <1b64aa7d5b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Jean-Michel
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> In article <[email protected]>, charles

<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped >>>>>>> windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not >>>>>>> covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're
moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02
(What happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show
pinboard hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins >>>> and iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes, I would like a keyboard shortcut, for example the Windows key to
select "show pinboard", or a click on the task bar by pressing this
key. To do (for me).

If I understand what you want correctly, this option already exists
within Pinboard 2 in the 'Miscellaneous' tab.

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

Also in 2.02 as well. but Jean-Michel wanted a keyboard shortcut, which
can be done via the 'Miscellaneous' tab.



--
Chris Hughes

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In message <1a42b17d5b.chris@mytardis>
Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]>
charles <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <1b64aa7d5b.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Jean-Michel
<[email protected]> wrote:

In message <[email protected]> Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> In article <[email protected]>, charles

<[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Chris Newman <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

Hi,

IIRC there was an app which made the icon bar inviolate and stopped >>>>>>>> windows covering it.

Can anyone rememember what it was & whence it cometh?

The window option in Bot Configuration only has an option for not >>>>>>>> covering icon bar whentoogling to full sizebut not when you're >>>>>>>> moving things around.

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

at WROOC this week, the effect was shown on the latest Beta for
Pinboard 2.

Thanks. I'll have to watch that again. I missed that bit throught
trying to do other tasks at the same time. Pinboard 2.04 was
demonstrated but it's not on the RISC OS Devs site yet, only 2.02
(What happened to 2.03?)

In Pinboard 2.02 there's also a useful item on the menu. "Show
pinboard hides all the windows so you are left with the backdrop, pins >>>>> and iconbar. Then it shows a button to get everything back again.

Yes, I would like a keyboard shortcut, for example the Windows key to
select "show pinboard", or a click on the task bar by pressing this
key. To do (for me).

If I understand what you want correctly, this option already exists
within Pinboard 2 in the 'Miscellaneous' tab.

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

Also in 2.02 as well. but Jean-Michel wanted a keyboard shortcut, which
can be done via the 'Miscellaneous' tab.

Yes I confirm and it works exactly as I wanted, well done to the
developers of PinBoard2 and thank you for the information, it is not
always easy to understand/translate.


I don't know if we can internationalize this program?


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Jean-Michel

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In article <[email protected]>,
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles

<Huge snip>

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

How come you've got 2.04? Are you a tester?
Devs site only shows 2.02.

Not a Tester that I know of, but I've just found an email from Andrew
calling me one. So I must be. It's dated 24 June 2024

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t�
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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In article <[email protected]>, charles

<Huge snip>

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

How come you've got 2.04? Are you a tester?
Devs site only shows 2.02.

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Chris

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In message <[email protected]>
Chris Newman <[email protected]> wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, charles

<Huge snip>

In 2.04 it's in the main menu "show pinboard",

How come you've got 2.04? Are you a tester?
Devs site only shows 2.02.

Well I am and it looks like Charles is as well.

--
Chris Hughes

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On 9 Jul, Jean-Michel wrote in message
<[email protected]>:

I don't know if we can internationalize this program?

It looks as if it should be possible: there's Messages files for both the Configure plugin and the module in the source code. From a cursory glance, I think the module will be doing the usual trick of installing the UK file in ResourceFS (presumably so that a territory can place translated copies in a preferential place on disc), so if you poke about in there when the module
is active, you should find a copy to act as a base to work from. It's also
in the source, of course -- although we can't see the source for 2.04.

I'm sure ROD would appreciate a translation, although how one goes about submitting patches to this Open Source project (not to mention keeping translations up to date as development is done) is anyone's guess.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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In message <[email protected]>
Steve Fryatt <[email protected]> wrote:

On 9 Jul, Jean-Michel wrote in message
<[email protected]>:

I don't know if we can internationalize this program?

It looks as if it should be possible: there's Messages files for both the Configure plugin and the module in the source code. From a cursory glance, I think the module will be doing the usual trick of installing the UK file in ResourceFS (presumably so that a territory can place translated copies in a preferential place on disc), so if you poke about in there when the module
is active, you should find a copy to act as a base to work from. It's also
in the source, of course -- although we can't see the source for 2.04.

I'm sure ROD would appreciate a translation, although how one goes about submitting patches to this Open Source project (not to mention keeping translations up to date as development is done) is anyone's guess.

Thanks Steve,
I found a $Resources.Pinboard. directory with the messages and Res files,
so it's possible.

--
Jean-Michel

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