• Using FTPc to manage a UK2 website

    From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 11:42:55 2024
    The key bit here is UK2.

    Seduced by their advertising I have purchased a domain and some simple
    hosting from UK2, not realising that they only support an FTP program
    called Filezilla or some such thing presumably running on a platform I
    don't have.

    I, of course, want to use my favourite and reliable FTP program to do the necessary under RISC OS.

    What I lack is the necessary incantation.

    So is there anyone out there who has successfully connected to this
    provider using FTPc, and could they tell me the magic bit enabling them to
    do so?


    Without giving too much away, I already have a site small.thing.free.fr�,
    so decided my new site would be called smallthing.space, this latter bit
    being a new alternative to .com, .co.uk etcetera.

    I believe that this will be accessed, unlike my free.fr site, with a
    preceding www. - but I don't think that's relevant.

    I used my [email protected] address to register, so my UK2 user name is
    that - with or without the .free.fr bit - I am unsure in this context.

    It appears that the last bit after the @ sign doesn't start with "ftp" like many - that gives an immediate fail - and should correspond to the domain,
    so I've been trying "smallthing.space". An odd way of doing things, but
    there it is.

    So, before bothering Colin, who is always very kind and helpful, I thought
    I'd first see if anyone here had achieved my goal and could offer guidance.

    My first fail was of the pattern:

    ftp://small.thing:[email protected]/


    John

    � Note: "small.thing" is a fiction for illustrative purposes, and I have checked it doesn't (yet) exist at free.fr.

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  • From Richard Darby (news)@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 1 17:06:45 2024
    In article <65bb83d6$0$6426$[email protected]>, John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    The key bit here is UK2.

    Seduced by their advertising I have purchased a domain and some simple hosting from UK2, not realising that they only support an FTP program
    called Filezilla or some such thing presumably running on a platform I
    don't have.

    I, of course, want to use my favourite and reliable FTP program to do
    the necessary under RISC OS.

    What I lack is the necessary incantation.

    So is there anyone out there who has successfully connected to this
    provider using FTPc, and could they tell me the magic bit enabling them
    to do so?


    Without giving too much away, I already have a site
    small.thing.free.fr�, so decided my new site would be called smallthing.space, this latter bit being a new alternative to .com,
    .co.uk etcetera.

    I believe that this will be accessed, unlike my free.fr site, with a preceding www. - but I don't think that's relevant.

    I used my [email protected] address to register, so my UK2 user name
    is that - with or without the .free.fr bit - I am unsure in this context.

    It appears that the last bit after the @ sign doesn't start with "ftp"
    like many - that gives an immediate fail - and should correspond to the domain, so I've been trying "smallthing.space". An odd way of doing
    things, but there it is.

    Hi John,

    I don't have any experience with UK2 but I wonder if you are aware of the program !FTPcEdit. This may help you to get the parts of the login
    correct by filling in the form. I think it sets passive to on as default, however if things don't work you could try turning this to off.

    You can get the program/app from here: https://www.mortara.org/apps-software/riscos/

    Regards,

    Richard.

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 1 17:18:16 2024
    In message <65bb83d6$0$6426$[email protected]>
    "John Williams (News)" <[email protected]> wrote:


    The key bit here is UK2.

    Seduced by their advertising I have purchased a domain and some simple hosting from UK2, not realising that they only support an FTP program
    called Filezilla or some such thing presumably running on a platform I
    don't have.

    I, of course, want to use my favourite and reliable FTP program to do the necessary under RISC OS.

    What I lack is the necessary incantation.

    So is there anyone out there who has successfully connected to this
    provider using FTPc, and could they tell me the magic bit enabling them to
    do so?


    Without giving too much away, I already have a site small.thing.free.fr�,
    so decided my new site would be called smallthing.space, this latter bit being a new alternative to .com, .co.uk etcetera.

    I believe that this will be accessed, unlike my free.fr site, with a preceding www. - but I don't think that's relevant.

    I used my [email protected] address to register, so my UK2 user name is that - with or without the .free.fr bit - I am unsure in this context.

    It appears that the last bit after the @ sign doesn't start with "ftp" like many - that gives an immediate fail - and should correspond to the domain,
    so I've been trying "smallthing.space". An odd way of doing things, but there it is.

    So, before bothering Colin, who is always very kind and helpful, I thought I'd first see if anyone here had achieved my goal and could offer guidance.

    My first fail was of the pattern:

    ftp://small.thing:[email protected]/

    Try ftps://mall.thing:[email protected]/

    John

    � Note: "small.thing" is a fiction for illustrative purposes, and I have checked it doesn't (yet) exist at free.fr.



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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 18:01:15 2024
    Thank you, Jean-Michel, but using ftps:// which, though it gets highlighted here in Pluto, doesn't seem to do the same in FTPc or even StrongEd.

    Richard, thanks for drawing my attention to the program. It does seem
    useful in telling one which bits are called what, and I'll keep it for the future, but it doesn't seem to throw any light on the current problem, and there isn't a field to accommodate Jean-Michel's suggestion of a protocol
    edit.

    In the absence of a working solution here, I think I'll widen my search to
    the RISC OS Open forums.

    Thanks again, though, for your input.

    John

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 1 19:39:14 2024
    In message <65bbdd3c$0$3269$[email protected]>
    "John Williams (News)" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Thank you, Jean-Michel, but using ftps:// which, though it gets highlighted here in Pluto, doesn't seem to do the same in FTPc or even StrongEd.

    Richard, thanks for drawing my attention to the program. It does seem
    useful in telling one which bits are called what, and I'll keep it for the future, but it doesn't seem to throw any light on the current problem, and there isn't a field to accommodate Jean-Michel's suggestion of a protocol edit.

    !FTPc 1.56 version

    Security explicit or implicit ftps



    In the absence of a working solution here, I think I'll widen my search to the RISC OS Open forums.

    Thanks again, though, for your input.

    John



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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 19:03:49 2024
    On 1 Feb 2024 as I do recall,
    John Williams (News) wrote:


    The key bit here is UK2.

    Seduced by their advertising I have purchased a domain and some simple hosting from UK2, not realising that they only support an FTP program
    called Filezilla or some such thing presumably running on a platform I
    don't have.


    This appears to be the relevant instructions: https://www.uk2.net/knowledgebase/article/how-do-i-connect-via-ftp/

    They specifically say that you can use different third party FTP
    software to connect through FTP - FileZilla is simply the client thety
    offer a download link to. (In fact you are lucky they allow FTP updates
    at all and don't require you to use an applet running in a web browser
    or some such concoction....)

    'Quickconnect' is apparently simply a way of making one-off connections
    via FileZilla (as !FTPc does) rather than setting up anything more
    complicated like a pending queue. https://filezillapro.com/docs/v3/getting-started/how-to-use-the-quickconnect-bar/



    Fill in the following information at the top of the screen:

    a. Host:�Enter your domain.co.uk (Replace domain.co.uk with your domain
    name, the�server name, or the server's IP address)

    b. Username:�Enter your cPanel username

    c. Password:�Enter your cPanel password

    d. Port:�Leave this field blank

    FTPcEdit will let you set up these easily (and save them as a menu
    entry for future use, and/or allow you to edit any entries you have
    already set up manually).

    I think the main problem is likely to be finding out what user name and password they expect without access to your 'CPanel'. I have a site
    where the user name is the domain name of the site, and the password
    appears to be something I set up myself at some point via the hosting
    site - if the UK2.net settings are similar, then your ftp syntax will be ftp://smallthing.space:[email protected] (possibly with a
    -passive switch appended - my site requires it)

    This shows up as Host, User and Password settings in FTPcEdit.




    This page might conceivably help so far as setting a password and/or
    accessing CPanel are concerned: https://www.uk2.net/knowledgebase/article/frequently-asked-questions/



    --
    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    A poor workman blames his tools.

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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 20:32:17 2024
    The value entries in my "Edit" file for FTPc take the form of:

    ftp://<username>:<password>@<whatever the server is>

    My username for the "cpanel" is an e-mail address, and so has an "@" in the middle of it:

    I have suggested [email protected] as a pseudonym for that.

    The password is, and should be, confirmed by what Harriet has looked-up, my only password, the one I use to access the "cpanel". I am grateful to her
    for her effort and suggestions, but I'd already checked that sparse information.

    The <whatever the server is>, usually something beginning ftp but by no
    means always, seems to be in the case of UK2 <your domain>, which in this
    case is "smallthing.space" (again obfuscated) - a contraction of the first
    part of the e-mail address I normally use formed by missing out the dot -
    just something easy to remember.

    So the string would be:

    ftp://[email protected]:<password>@smallthing.space which, if I took out
    the angle brackets, would become a click-able link in this e-mail, like
    this:

    ftp://[email protected]:[email protected]

    which, if I put in the proper values, tries to connect to something but
    times out, unlike that above which fails immediately.

    J-M's suggestion using the FTPc "enter-it-in-this-window" thing where you
    can try the "change the security bit" doesn't work with either setting, but anyway I can't see what the format of this would be in the edit list
    because <emphatic>you can only save it if it works</emphatic>.

    If anyone has an example of where and how those flags change the string
    value in the edit file, that would be useful to try. It is a bit of a
    barrier with FTPc that you can only save the resulting item as a click-able string if it is successful, but probably equally very sensible.

    I'm afraid that when, for example, I'm connecting to a new phone, it's the actual string in the "Edit" list I mess about with, not the c "Enter the details in this form" window called FTPc. I double-click on them to see if they work rather than go back to the actual created menu.

    John

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  • From Richard Darby (news)@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Feb 1 21:25:37 2024
    In article <65bbdd3c$0$3269$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you, Jean-Michel, but using ftps:// which, though it gets
    highlighted here in Pluto, doesn't seem to do the same in FTPc or even StrongEd.

    Richard, thanks for drawing my attention to the program. It does seem
    useful in telling one which bits are called what, and I'll keep it for
    the future, but it doesn't seem to throw any light on the current
    problem, and there isn't a field to accommodate Jean-Michel's suggestion
    of a protocol edit.

    You may find that if you fill in the boxes and save it to the FTPc menu it
    will concatenate the entries into a single line like you have been trying
    but in the right order with the correct delimiters.

    I have entered details in the appropriate boxes on my system which get assembled into a single line in the FTPc Menu.

    Regards,

    Richard.

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    website: http://www.rjdarby.co.uk
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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 2 07:47:00 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Richard Darby (news) <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <65bbdd3c$0$3269$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you, Jean-Michel, but using ftps:// which, though it gets
    highlighted here in Pluto, doesn't seem to do the same in FTPc or even StrongEd.

    Richard, thanks for drawing my attention to the program. It does seem useful in telling one which bits are called what, and I'll keep it for
    the future, but it doesn't seem to throw any light on the current
    problem, and there isn't a field to accommodate Jean-Michel's
    suggestion of a protocol edit.

    You may find that if you fill in the boxes and save it to the FTPc menu
    it will concatenate the entries into a single line like you have been
    trying but in the right order with the correct delimiters.

    I have entered details in the appropriate boxes on my system which get assembled into a single line in the FTPc Menu.

    Regards,

    Richard.

    This has been/is an interesting subject, as I've always had *big* troubles trying to make sense of FTP configuration.

    I use FTPc on RISC OS, and with luck and advice from others years ago did eventually get FTPc configured with my accounts.

    Years ago I did look at FTPcEdit but didn't understand much of it.

    For example...

    What's the Host?
    What's the Path?
    What Flags need listing?

    User what is that?
    Password is obvious. :-)

    Aside from Passive, I have no idea what the remaining config are.

    So here we have an edited example line from my FTPc Menu, which in it's original form works. :-)

    name="Dave webspace";
    value="ftp://daveweb:[email protected]/"

    What among all that is what?

    Thanks

    Dave

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Feb 2 08:38:18 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
    [Snippy]

    This has been/is an interesting subject, as I've always had *big*
    troubles trying to make sense of FTP configuration.

    I use FTPc on RISC OS, and with luck and advice from others years ago did eventually get FTPc configured with my accounts.

    Years ago I did look at FTPcEdit but didn't understand much of it.

    For example...

    What's the Host?
    What's the Path?
    What Flags need listing?

    User what is that?
    Password is obvious. :-)

    Aside from Passive, I have no idea what the remaining config are.

    So here we have an edited example line from my FTPc Menu, which in it's original form works. :-)

    name="Dave webspace";
    value="ftp://daveweb:[email protected]/"

    What among all that is what?

    Thanks

    Dave

    Later... Revisiting, FTPcEdit I now see some of it... and why I was
    confused (mostly still am.) ;-)

    When I open FTPcEdit I'm presented with an almost blank form, it just has
    a name in it, the name is the first one of the FTP configs in the FTPc app menu.

    But FTPcEdit does not show any of the details as set in the FTPc app menu. That's confusing... Because in FTPc it works perfectly okay.

    I've only just noticed there are up and down arrows at the top left of the entry window, which if clicked takes me through the other entries in the
    FTPc app menu, all of which have details entered.

    I still don't understand most of the entry fields, but looking at the ones
    that do have entries I can see what's needed in some of my previously
    noted questions.

    That leaves me with a big question...

    Why is the first entry in FTPCEdit not showing the configs for that ftp
    entry?

    Mnnn!

    Dave

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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Feb 2 08:56:44 2024
    On 02 Feb in comp.sys.acorn.apps, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    What among all that is what?

    Apart from how any flags would be incorporated, I think my immediately
    previous posting deals adequately with that.

    It's not (for me) what's called what, I get that bit; it's exactly how each item is formulated. For example, whilst I know that my "username" contains
    an arobas, is that valid within this ftp context?

    I have now discovered that my "control panel" will allow me to configure an additional user for ftp, on a timer. I gave this a go with a simpler
    username, but to no avail.

    John

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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 2 09:04:04 2024
    In article <65bcae8d$0$11912$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    Apart from how any flags would be incorporated, I think my immediately previous posting deals adequately with that.

    Sorry, I see that I didn't mention path, which is the bit after the "/" in
    the server bit - at the extreme right: That would be a path through any sub-directories.

    For example, if you, Dave, had a directory on your site called "Faye", you would add "Faye/" on the end after the "/", and that would directly display
    the contents of directory "Faye" instead of the root directory of your site.

    John

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Feb 2 09:50:04 2024
    In article <65bcb00b$0$3264$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <65bcae8d$0$11912$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    Apart from how any flags would be incorporated, I think my immediately previous posting deals adequately with that.

    Sorry, I see that I didn't mention path, which is the bit after the "/"
    in the server bit - at the extreme right: That would be a path through
    any sub-directories.

    For example, if you, Dave, had a directory on your site called "Faye",
    you would add "Faye/" on the end after the "/", and that would directly display the contents of directory "Faye" instead of the root directory
    of your site.

    John

    Aha! I see John, just tested that on my site with a particular dir and yes
    it works a treat.

    Thanks
    Dave

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Feb 2 09:43:47 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
    [Snippy]

    That leaves me with a big question...

    Why is the first entry in FTPCEdit not showing the configs for that ftp entry?

    Mnnn!

    Dave


    As a footnote... :-/

    Using FTPcEditor I created a new entry for that first entry (F1) calling
    it F2 and using using the exact same details in the new F2 from F1.

    After Saving, F2 presented in the FTPcEdit panel, but F1 did not.

    Viewing the FTPc "UserMenu" from ...Choices in StrongED the two configs F1
    and F2 were identical.

    Ah well! such are the mysteries of a computing life... :-)

    Dave

    However, with more work, I did discover the cause of the problem.

    In the original F1 the "value=" was written as "Value=" changing that to "value=" fixed the FTPcEdit problem.

    In case you missed it... "V" cap, when it should be "v" lower case. :-/

    You've gotta laugh. :-)

    dave

    Whoops! that should be Dave. ;-)

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  • From Jean-Michel@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Feb 2 13:13:30 2024
    In message <[email protected]>
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
    [Snippy]

    This has been/is an interesting subject, as I've always had *big*
    troubles trying to make sense of FTP configuration.

    I use FTPc on RISC OS, and with luck and advice from others years ago did
    eventually get FTPc configured with my accounts.

    Years ago I did look at FTPcEdit but didn't understand much of it.

    For example...

    What's the Host?
    What's the Path?
    What Flags need listing?

    User what is that?
    Password is obvious. :-)

    Aside from Passive, I have no idea what the remaining config are.

    So here we have an edited example line from my FTPc Menu, which in it's
    original form works. :-)

    name="Dave webspace";
    value="ftp://daveweb:[email protected]/"

    What among all that is what?

    Thanks

    Dave

    Later... Revisiting, FTPcEdit I now see some of it... and why I was
    confused (mostly still am.) ;-)

    When I open FTPcEdit I'm presented with an almost blank form, it just has
    a name in it, the name is the first one of the FTP configs in the FTPc app menu.

    But FTPcEdit does not show any of the details as set in the FTPc app menu. That's confusing... Because in FTPc it works perfectly okay.

    I've only just noticed there are up and down arrows at the top left of the entry window, which if clicked takes me through the other entries in the
    FTPc app menu, all of which have details entered.

    I still don't understand most of the entry fields, but looking at the ones that do have entries I can see what's needed in some of my previously
    noted questions.

    That leaves me with a big question...

    Why is the first entry in FTPCEdit not showing the configs for that ftp entry?

    Mnnn!

    Dave
    For the site to appear in usermenu=> edit, when you are connected, use
    FTPc menu=> Add to user menu.



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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Jean-Michel on Fri Feb 2 19:13:10 2024
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jean-Michel <[email protected]> wrote:
    [Snippy]

    For the site to appear in usermenu=> edit, when you are connected, use
    FTPc menu=> Add to user menu.

    Thanks for the thought, but sorry, I don't understand what you've written.

    The entry was already in the FTPc Menu, it just wasn't being picked up by FTPcEdit for the reason I mentioned in an earlier posting of 9:43 AM today.

    "V" and "v".

    Dave

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  • From John Williams (News)@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 20 10:12:10 2024
    In article <65bb83d6$0$6426$[email protected]>,
    John Williams (News) <[email protected]> wrote:

    The key bit here is UK2.

    Seduced by their advertising I have purchased a domain and some simple hosting from UK2, not realising that they only support an FTP program
    called Filezilla or some such thing presumably running on a platform I
    don't have.

    I, of course, want to use my favourite and reliable FTP program to do the necessary under RISC OS.

    What I lack is the necessary incantation.

    So is there anyone out there who has successfully connected to this
    provider using FTPc, and could they tell me the magic bit enabling them to
    do so?


    The problem lay entirely with UK2. They had omitted a few vital steps in setting-up the site. These were sorted out eventually after I used the
    stackcp control panel to diagnose.

    Once the DNS was actually pointing at the site, and they had provided the included SSL certificate, evrything works fine.

    I am impressed at how the control panel can configure the site. No mor
    messing with .htaccess files for password protection or directory contents listing - it can all be done automagically on the root configuration file
    using simple web forms.

    However, back on topic:

    FTPc works fine as usual. The "incantation" is of the usual form I quoted earlier:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<yoursitename>/

    where <yoursitename> is your [second-level domain name "." top-level
    domain], the bit like [BBC "." co.uk], or [Google "." com]. That is, your domain bit.+-

    An alternative provided is to substitute "stackcp.com" for the second <yoursitename>, giving:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<stackcp.com>/

    Either works.

    As these take you to the root containing your public_html folder, you will probably want to add this path fragment giving you:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<yoursitename>/public_html/
    or
    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<stackcp.com>/public_html/

    and if you wanted to display/access a particular folder's contents, say
    "Faye", you would add "Faye/" to the end of that. That last bit was for
    Dave, who was puzzled about the word "path".

    So, to summarise, I was worrying unnecessarily about FTPc, and although I
    had some hic-cups with UK2 initially, it must surely have been exceptional, otherwise they wouldn't have any customers! All sorted out now, but took
    10 days. All fine now. Bit surprised it didn't work from the start,
    though.

    John

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 20 10:59:48 2024
    "John Williams (News)" <[email protected]> wrote:
    FTPc works fine as usual. The "incantation" is of the usual form I quoted earlier:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<yoursitename>/

    where <yoursitename> is your [second-level domain name "." top-level
    domain], the bit like [BBC "." co.uk], or [Google "." com]. That is, your domain bit.+-

    The standardised format is
    ftp://username:password@ftpserverhostname/

    Do you mean to have an '@' before the site name, rather than a '.' ?

    In other words, if your site is called example.com, they run an FTP server
    at example.com your FTP client connects to and you login with the username 'example.com' and your hosting password. ie:

    ftp://example.com:[email protected]/

    An alternative provided is to substitute "stackcp.com" for the second <yoursitename>, giving:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<stackcp.com>/

    I think there's an extra < > in there. You might mean:

    ftp://username:[email protected]/

    which means they run an FTP server on the host stackcp.com, you login
    with the username 'example.com' and your hosting password, ie:

    ftp://example.com:[email protected]/

    So, to summarise, I was worrying unnecessarily about FTPc, and although I
    had some hic-cups with UK2 initially, it must surely have been exceptional, otherwise they wouldn't have any customers! All sorted out now, but took
    10 days. All fine now. Bit surprised it didn't work from the start,
    though.

    It sounds like completely standard FTP, the problem being their end hadn't
    got it set up properly which muddied the waters. Plus it can sometimes be unclear what username they want.

    Theo

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  • From David Higton@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Feb 20 19:47:01 2024
    In message <65d47b1e$0$2991$[email protected]>
    "John Williams (News)" <[email protected]> wrote:

    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<yoursitename>/public_html/
    or
    ftp://<yoursitename>:<password>.<stackcp.com>/public_html/

    and if you wanted to display/access a particular folder's contents, say "Faye", you would add "Faye/" to the end of that. That last bit was for Dave, who was puzzled about the word "path".

    So, to summarise, I was worrying unnecessarily about FTPc, and although I
    had some hic-cups with UK2 initially, it must surely have been exceptional, otherwise they wouldn't have any customers! All sorted out now, but took
    10 days. All fine now. Bit surprised it didn't work from the start,
    though.

    Interesting. I've looked at the FTPc UserMenu entries for my website,
    which are like this:

    name="My web site (plain);
    value="ftp://<myusername>:<mypassword>@<providername>/"

    name="My web site (secure)";
    value="ftps://<myusername>:<mypassword>@<providername>/ -secure 1"

    providername is the name of the website hosting company that I use.

    I've been accessing it securely since late 2021, according to the date
    of the UserMenu file.

    As an aside, my own version of AcornSSL (which FTPc uses) is built
    with TLS1.0 and TLS1.1 disabled, and secure access still works, so
    it's another data point on support for deprecated versions of TLS
    being unnecessary.

    David

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