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    From Dave@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 5 21:05:29 2022
    Good evening folks.

    I was using OvPro for MS-Windows earlier and couldn't remember which of
    three icons on my tool bar was the one I wanted, so as per usual Win side
    I just hovered the mouse over the icons and a tooltip informed me in turn
    what they were.

    Later back on the RISC OS side, again using OvPro and other apps, I
    wondered have there ever (Nb.) been any RISC OS apps that incorporated tooltips?

    Thanks
    Dave

    Nb: The only one I know of is 'WebWonder' which has a status bar at the
    bottom of the window detailing the tool button the mouse pointer is over.

    D.

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Dave on Fri Aug 5 22:36:26 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wondered have there ever (Nb.) been any RISC OS apps that incorporated tooltips?

    RISC OS has interactive help, which often does a more comprehensive job
    than tooltips. But you have to activate it manually. My favourite is BubbleHelp, by the way.

    Paul

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  • From Chris Newman@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Fri Aug 5 22:41:13 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Paul Sprangers <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wondered have there ever (Nb.) been any RISC OS apps that incorporated tooltips?

    RISC OS has interactive help, which often does a more comprehensive job
    than tooltips. But you have to activate it manually. My favourite is BubbleHelp, by the way.

    I use Steve Fryatt's !Float. I used to use Bubble Help but changed for somereason I cannot now remember. I think it was to do withworking better
    on Virtual Acorn.

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    Chris Newman

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sat Aug 6 10:18:54 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Paul Sprangers <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wondered have there ever (Nb.) been any RISC OS apps that
    incorporated tooltips?

    RISC OS has interactive help, which often does a more comprehensive job
    than tooltips. But you have to activate it manually. My favourite is BubbleHelp, by the way.

    Paul

    No, no! Having a multi sentence dialogue open whenever... is not conducive
    to effective working or sanity. :-(

    I only want toolbar button tips, and I want a Tooltip that does the job in
    a couple of words.

    I used to use BubbleHelp, but I have a vague recollection it wouldn't work
    with RISC OS 6.

    Dave

    Anyone have a link to download Bubblehelp?

    Thanks
    D.

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Paul Sprangers@21:1/5 to Dave on Sat Aug 6 12:10:12 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    No, no! Having a multi sentence dialogue open whenever... is not
    conducive to effective working or sanity. :-(

    Well, you can always switch if off with a single click on the iconbar icon.
    But I agree, tooltips and interactive help are two different species.


    Anyone have a link to download Bubblehelp?
    http://www.vigay.com/thirdparty/index.html

    Whether it will work on RISC OS 6 is unsure. It doesn't even fully work on
    RISC OS 5 on my Pi4: clicking Choices produces an error, for example.
    That's a pity, since BubbleHelp used to be the most configurable one of all
    its competitors.

    Paul

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 6 10:29:00 2022
    On 06 Aug, [email protected] wrote:

    [Snippy]
    Anyone have a link to download Bubblehelp?

    Thanks
    D.

    Don't bother.
    I found it on Paul Vigays site and it doesn't work on RISC OS 6.20

    Dave

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    Dave Triffid

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Dave on Sat Aug 6 12:21:07 2022
    In message <[email protected]>
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Paul Sprangers <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    I wondered have there ever (Nb.) been any RISC OS apps that
    incorporated tooltips?

    RISC OS has interactive help, which often does a more comprehensive job
    than tooltips. But you have to activate it manually. My favourite is
    BubbleHelp, by the way.

    Paul

    No, no! Having a multi sentence dialogue open whenever... is not conducive
    to effective working or sanity. :-(

    I only want toolbar button tips, and I want a Tooltip that does the job in
    a couple of words.

    Well Fireworkz and messenegr pro seem to have tool tips.

    It seems it per app basis. ask the programmers.



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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Steve Fryatt@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Aug 6 12:46:13 2022
    On 6 Aug, Chris Hughes wrote in message
    <f821b0135a.chris@mytardis>:

    Well Fireworkz and messenegr pro seem to have tool tips.

    It seems it per app basis. ask the programmers.

    RISC OS has no support for tooltips. If an application includes them, then either it's using a library to do it, or its developer has invented their
    own wheel from scratch.

    Interactive Help is system-wide, and probably the best way to go as it gives
    a standard behaviour to users across all applications.

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    Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

    http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Sat Aug 6 18:50:02 2022
    In article <f821b0135a.chris@mytardis>,
    Chris Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Well Fireworkz and messenger pro seem to have tool tips.

    It seems it per app basis. ask the programmers.

    I can only comment on Fireworkz as I don't have the other...

    It's not really tooltips, more akin to the usual Acorn !Help constrained
    to a status bar...

    Dave

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to Paul Sprangers on Sat Aug 6 18:53:32 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Paul Sprangers <[email protected]> wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

    [Snip]

    Anyone have a link to download Bubblehelp?
    http://www.vigay.com/thirdparty/index.html

    Whether it will work on RISC OS 6 is unsure. It doesn't even fully work
    on RISC OS 5 on my Pi4: clicking Choices produces an error, for example. That's a pity, since BubbleHelp used to be the most configurable one of
    all its competitors.

    Paul

    As I posted earlier (10:29 AM), it doesn't work on RISC OS 6.20.

    Dave

    Anyway... Tooltips on RISC OS, just an idle thought. :-)

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    Dave Triffid

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