• Names in FireworkzPro

    From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 29 18:20:19 2022
    I was trying to port a PipeDream sheet to FireworkzPro and came across a
    very insidious problem: it is possible to have a user-defined name in PipeDream which coincides with one of the new built-in functions in
    Fireworkz. Which means that all formulae containing that name/cell
    reference simply fail silently to work in the imported sheet, because
    Fireworkz now sees the references as functions with bad parameters...

    (What seems to me to be a bug is that both PipeDream and Fireworks will
    in fact quite happily allow you to attempt to *define* names which clash
    with existing functions, e.g. 'index', without this throwing up an error
    of any sort at the point of creation. They even appear in the menu of
    names which can be inserted into formulae. They just get interpreted as
    plain text strings instead of as the defined range or value that shows
    up whenever you inspect or edit them!)

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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    We will release no software before its time.

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Wed Jun 29 19:32:46 2022
    In message <[email protected]>
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:

    I was trying to port a PipeDream sheet to FireworkzPro and came across a
    very insidious problem: it is possible to have a user-defined name in PipeDream which coincides with one of the new built-in functions in Fireworkz. Which means that all formulae containing that name/cell
    reference simply fail silently to work in the imported sheet, because Fireworkz now sees the references as functions with bad parameters...

    (What seems to me to be a bug is that both PipeDream and Fireworks will
    in fact quite happily allow you to attempt to *define* names which clash
    with existing functions, e.g. 'index', without this throwing up an error
    of any sort at the point of creation. They even appear in the menu of
    names which can be inserted into formulae. They just get interpreted as plain text strings instead of as the defined range or value that shows
    up whenever you inspect or edit them!)

    I can't really answer your question, but if you posted this on the
    Fireworkz mailing list, which Stuart Swales the programmer reads you are
    more likely to get a better answer.

    --
    Chris Hughes

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Thu Jun 30 03:32:59 2022
    On 29 Jun 2022 as I do recall,
    Chris Hughes wrote:

    I can't really answer your question, but if you posted this on the
    Fireworkz mailing list, which Stuart Swales the programmer reads you are
    more likely to get a better answer.

    I did try this in the past, and it failed - apparently it's still
    failing. :-(

    We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to contact (colton-software-fireworkz) may not exist, or you may not have
    permission to post messages to the group. A few more details on why
    you weren't able to post:

    * You might have spelled or formatted the group name incorrectly.
    * The owner of the group may have removed this group.
    * You may need to join the group before receiving permission to post.
    * This group may not be open to posting.


    Followed by


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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    You cannot kill time without injuring eternity.

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Thu Jun 30 08:07:46 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:
    I can't really answer your question, but if you posted this on the Fireworkz mailing list, which Stuart Swales the programmer reads you
    are more likely to get a better answer.

    I did try this in the past, and it failed - apparently it's still
    failing. :-(

    I am still getting Emails from coltonsoft-fireworkz so it still exists.
    The last one was 30th May.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Chris Hughes on Thu Jun 30 09:58:58 2022
    On 30 Jun 2022 as I do recall,
    Chris Hughes wrote:

    In message <[email protected]>
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 29 Jun 2022 as I do recall,
    Chris Hughes wrote:

    I can't really answer your question, but if you posted this on the
    Fireworkz mailing list, which Stuart Swales the programmer reads you are >> more likely to get a better answer.

    I did try this in the past, and it failed - apparently it's still
    failing. :-(

    Might be because you appear to have not used the correct subscribe
    address.

    The correct address is:

    [email protected]

    Note the the Plus symbol between fireworkz and subscribe, where as below
    you used a minus symbol instead.

    Thanks!


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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    If it's not broken, don't fix it.

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  • From Chris Hughes@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Thu Jun 30 09:18:10 2022
    In message <[email protected]>
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 29 Jun 2022 as I do recall,
    Chris Hughes wrote:

    I can't really answer your question, but if you posted this on the
    Fireworkz mailing list, which Stuart Swales the programmer reads you are
    more likely to get a better answer.

    I did try this in the past, and it failed - apparently it's still
    failing. :-(

    Might be because you appear to have not used the correct subscribe
    address.

    The correct address is:

    [email protected]

    Note the the Plus symbol between fireworkz and subscribe, where as below
    you used a minus symbol instead.


    [snip]


    Followed by


    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
    <[email protected]>
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    exist. Please try)

    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
    ... while talking to gmr-smtp-in.l.google.com.:
    DATA
    <<< 550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist.
    Please try
    <<< 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or
    <<< 550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at
    <<< 550 5.1.1 https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser
    ay11-20020a05600c1e0b00b0039c4133ae38si196776wmb.2 - gsmtp
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    unknown
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    ay11-20020a05600c1e0b00b0039c4133ae38si196776wmb.2 - gsmtp




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    Chris Hughes

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  • From Stuart@21:1/5 to Harriet Bazley on Thu Jun 30 11:12:18 2022
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:
    The correct address is:

    [email protected]

    Note the the Plus symbol between fireworkz and subscribe, where as below you used a minus symbol instead.

    Did that work?

    I emailed Stuart to say people were having difficulty, he is happy to add people manually if needed.

    --
    Stuart Winsor

    Tools With A Mission
    sending tools across the world
    http://www.twam.co.uk/

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  • From Harriet Bazley@21:1/5 to Stuart on Thu Jun 30 15:15:05 2022
    On 30 Jun 2022 as I do recall,
    Stuart wrote:

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Harriet Bazley <[email protected]> wrote:
    The correct address is:

    [email protected]

    Note the the Plus symbol between fireworkz and subscribe, where as below you used a minus symbol instead.

    Did that work?

    Yes, it did. :-)

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    Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

    He who hesitates is last.

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