• Re: A Blast From The Past -- c.s.i.p.games FAQ

    From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Aug 27 16:55:25 2025
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!

    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 28 12:13:48 2025
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    Yeah, it doesn't do PASV. I had to open up 20-21 to get it to work,
    something that I had totally forgot and banged my head against the wall
    for at least 5 minutes on.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 28 12:16:59 2025
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:25 -0500, Zaghadka <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!
    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

    And? Well? Are any of them still working?

    Let us know so we can update the c.s.i.p.g FAQ. Else people won't know
    where they can download Doom and other shareware games! ;-)

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    The best part of the FAQ for me was the suggestion that people use
    "FLAME:" in their topics for when they were just going to
    rant/flame/complain so people could filter it out if they wanted. The
    idea that people would have that much consideration was amazingly
    naive. It really was a much more innocent age of computing. ;-)

    I wonder what header I'd have to use in my subject lines for all of my
    posts. I didn't see a "PATENT NONSENSE:" tag.


    Really? I should think everyone would tag their post "IMPORTANT:" and
    then we'd be back to where we were.

    At the very least, every post you make should be tagged in this way. We
    should start doing tags just for fun and see how it works out.

    Recommendations:

    "FREEBIE:"
    "RANT:"
    "C-SUITE:"
    "TOMFOOLERY:"
    "SERIOUS:"
    "MYSOGYNY:"
    "NEEDLESSLY ARGUMENTATIVE:"
    "GETOFFMYLAWN:"
    "CURMUDGEON:"

    That last should apply to myself and Xocyll at the least.

    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 28 15:48:05 2025
    Zaghadka <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:14:57 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:55:25 -0500, Zaghadka <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 16:12:56 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >>>Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    See what everybody thought was important to know in 1992!
    I actually opened up command line ftp to see if anything still existed!

    And? Well? Are any of them still working?

    Let us know so we can update the c.s.i.p.g FAQ. Else people won't know >>where they can download Doom and other shareware games! ;-)

    [actually, I more was surprised to learn Windows still
    had a command-line FTP client. It's been a long time
    since I used it... or plain old FTP, for that matter.]

    The best part of the FAQ for me was the suggestion that people use
    "FLAME:" in their topics for when they were just going to >>rant/flame/complain so people could filter it out if they wanted. The
    idea that people would have that much consideration was amazingly
    naive. It really was a much more innocent age of computing. ;-)

    I wonder what header I'd have to use in my subject lines for all of my >>posts. I didn't see a "PATENT NONSENSE:" tag.


    Really? I should think everyone would tag their post "IMPORTANT:" and
    then we'd be back to where we were.

    At the very least, every post you make should be tagged in this way. We >should start doing tags just for fun and see how it works out.

    Recommendations:

    "FREEBIE:"
    "RANT:"
    "C-SUITE:"
    "TOMFOOLERY:"
    "SERIOUS:"
    "MYSOGYNY:"
    "NEEDLESSLY ARGUMENTATIVE:"
    "GETOFFMYLAWN:"
    "CURMUDGEON:"

    That last should apply to myself and Xocyll at the least.

    I'll be in the Curmudgeon Dudgeon Dungeon.

    Xocyll
    --
    I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
    a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
    Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
    FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Aug 29 11:13:14 2025
    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Aug 29 23:28:22 2025
    Justisaur <[email protected]> wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    What did you play last month :P

    What and where are the free games? :P
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Aug 29 23:25:56 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Aug 30 23:14:06 2025
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:08:28 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:13:14 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    On 8/29/2025 9:53 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?


    What did you play last month :P

    Touch�. That indeed is the most frequently asked question in this
    newsgroup (asked monthly for almost twenty years now).

    But what is the Frequently Responded Answer to that question?

    (I mean, I could tell you... but not for another two days ;-)

    Hello Kitty Island Adventure

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2495100/Hello_Kitty_Island_Adventure/

    But no one will admit to it, so it doesn't matter how much you count "responses." That is what everyone is playing. We only live in Hello
    Kitty's world.

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    Zag

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    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Aug 30 23:21:25 2025
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:15:13 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games >newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    "This newsgroup is the gaming equivalent of Gilligan's Island. After a metaphorical three-hour tour through all the subgroups, which were hit by
    a terrible storm, we all wound up here. The tiny ship of c.s.i.p.games
    was rocked, and ran aground on the island of "action." Sure, there are
    other groups named comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.[thingy] -- or even the main
    group! -- but this is the only place that matters because it's the only
    one with traffic. Only pedants use the other subgroups, because we used
    to care if rpg talk was in .rpg, because there was a *lot* of traffic.
    Now we all live on this island, and we're happy here.

    "Think of it as a vast ecosystem that was hit by a plague. All but one
    island, Gilligan's, is bereft of life, and therefore purpose. What's left
    is us. We're on Gilligan's Island, "aka" comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    and we're not putting down our coconuts. Grab one, hook up some string,
    and stay a while."

    How's that for a starter?

    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Aug 31 04:23:38 2025
    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:25:56 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 21:44:37 -0000 (UTC), [email protected] (Ant)
    wrote:

    We need to resume this again!

    I nominate Ant to write up the framework for the new csipga FAQ!

    Sure: Use my very old http://ants.pbworks.com? :P


    Although honestly, given the lack of traffic in this newsgroup... do
    we even HAVE any _frequently_ asked questions?

    A FAQ: WTF is c.s.i.p.games newsgroup? Hahaha. ;)

    Actually, that was a common "first question" of most newsgroup FAQs;
    e.g., "what is this newsgroup all about".

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    Pay me. /s

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Aug 31 13:38:48 2025
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.

    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Mon Sep 1 06:34:11 2025
    On 8/31/2025 11:38 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.


    If you're talking about cspig with nothing after that doesn't even seem
    to be available on Eternal-September.


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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Mon Sep 1 06:30:31 2025
    On 8/30/2025 9:21 PM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Aug 2025 11:15:13 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    If you were really going to do it, you'd also have to explain the
    existence of the other newsgroups (including the root c.s.i.p.games
    newsgroup) and that, while they still exist, you're best chance of a
    response is to post to c.s.i.p.g.action regardless of the genre.

    See? Now you have several questions for your FAQ! The job is
    practically done already. So get started! ;-)

    "This newsgroup is the gaming equivalent of Gilligan's Island. After a metaphorical three-hour tour through all the subgroups, which were hit by
    a terrible storm, we all wound up here. The tiny ship of c.s.i.p.games
    was rocked, and ran aground on the island of "action." Sure, there are
    other groups named comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.[thingy] -- or even the main
    group! -- but this is the only place that matters because it's the only
    one with traffic. Only pedants use the other subgroups, because we used
    to care if rpg talk was in .rpg, because there was a *lot* of traffic.
    Now we all live on this island, and we're happy here.

    "Think of it as a vast ecosystem that was hit by a plague. All but one island, Gilligan's, is bereft of life, and therefore purpose. What's left
    is us. We're on Gilligan's Island, "aka" comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    and we're not putting down our coconuts. Grab one, hook up some string,
    and stay a while."

    How's that for a starter?


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I
    haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Sep 1 11:55:19 2025
    On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 11:20:44 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:30:31 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I >>haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    *.strategy gets a handful of comments here and there too. Most of the
    newest *.adventure comments seem to be crossposts from here, though.
    The others are even less active.

    No, for better or worse, *.action is the place to be.

    Yup. The other subs are for pedants and old men with good Usenet hygeine habits.

    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Mon Sep 1 11:54:25 2025
    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:34:11 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Justisaur wrote:

    On 8/31/2025 11:38 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:35:19 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    90s Usenet would go fucking
    insane if they had to deal with modern gaming, where every title has
    RPG elements, action elements, strategy elements, and the world design
    is so sophisticated you can declare it a simulation too. The flame
    wars would rival the sun's core in heat ;-)

    Yeah. Given '20s gaming, we'd probably all have started discussing every
    game in .action anyways, simply out of sheer frustration. Even Telltale's
    Batman point-and-click adventure game has quicktime sequences, IIRC.

    But we'd never post to the main group. That thing is a mess! Hell, I've
    never even pulled the main group because I don't have enough drive space
    to retain all those posts.


    If you're talking about cspig with nothing after that doesn't even seem
    to be available on Eternal-September.

    Whoosh.

    --
    Zag

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe,
    and to utter freely according to conscience, above
    all other liberties. ~John Milton

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Tue Sep 2 22:10:08 2025
    Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 16:55 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 11:20:44 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 06:30:31 -0700, Justisaur <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    There's still a couple hermits hanging out on CSIPG.RPG it seems. I >>>haven't checked the others in ages, so there could be someone elsewhere.

    *.strategy gets a handful of comments here and there too. Most of the >>newest *.adventure comments seem to be crossposts from here, though.
    The others are even less active.

    No, for better or worse, *.action is the place to be.

    Yup. The other subs are for pedants and old men with good Usenet hygeine habits.


    I've only seen a handful of posts in *.strategy.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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