Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

Not my idea (I stole it from a video*) but I thought it a neat topic.

What are the warning signs in a video-game reveal (whether it's a
video trailer or an announcement or presentation) that a game might
not actually be as good as the marketing hype suggests.

The video offers the following suggestions:

1) The developers go on and on about how incredibly big the world is
(red flag because big does not necessarily equate to quality)

And most of them usually are not actually all that big.
Not compared to Daggerfall.

2) They play up the involvement of a major Hollywood actor
(red flag because now we know where the budget is REALLY going)

Why I never played WOW, all those B-list "celebrities" in their ads.

3) They are boastful about post-launch "road-maps"
(red flag because it means the game is going to be launched in
a stripped down state with no guarantee we'll ever get to
the stuff on the road map)

4) They admit the game has micro transactions, but theirs will be
'different' and 'better'
(red flag because they never are better)

You misunderstand; Better in this context means they will painlessly
extract your money and you will suffer no angst about the money you
wasted.

5) They don't actually show any gameplay or the gameplay that is shown
is heavily scripted
(red flag because they know the gameplay sucks)

Or like Diablo3 they show gameplay footage, that turns out not to
actually be in the game at all.

6) They only offer vague release dates.
(red flag because why get hyped for a game that might not
be released for years?)

Hello Star Citizen, Spalls is talking about you again.

Other suggestions include

- multiple editions being offered (e.g., get the Ultra
Platinum version with three plastic statues and a t-shirt
and a in-game cosmetic and -if you're really lucky- the actual
game too!)

- boasting about some connection with a past studio or old IP
(especially if it is then followed up by, "taking it in a
new direction"

The first part isn't too bad. IE Guild Wars did that, telling us it
was by some of the original Diablo/DIablo2 crew formerly of Blizzard
(when they didn't suck.)

- day one DLC (which, you know, could have just been added to
the game being released)

I find DLC at all to be a bit of a red flag since this stuff often used
to be part of the main game, and is now split off to garner more
revenue.
Often a foot-shoot though, since without it in the base game people get
bored so much faster.
Since only the best bits will sell as a DLC, without it in the base game
it's far less interesting and people move on to something new without
ever considering buying the DLC.

- "hundreds of hours of gameplay" (because pacing is a lost art)

Generally means it's a console port with save points and lots of
unskippable video that happens after the save point but before the
jumping puzzle of certain death or the Boss fight you will repeat 27
times before you figure out the trick to defeat it.

Personally, at this point I don't even pay attention to reveal
trailers or announcements, beyond maybe acknowledging that the game is
in development. They're such pointless deceitful things whose purpose
isn't to inform you but instead to induce you into an emotional state
so you'll blindly buy the product when its released. But even so, its
hard to ignore them completely because -even months after the game is >released- these trailers are often the primary advertisement for the
games and they make it almost impossible to tell what the game is
actually like.

Mostly I just wait until someone in here mentions and upcoming game that
might be interesting (or it's free.)

Advertising/marketing always makes stuff sound much much better than it actually is.

Still, I admit that the ones that annoy me most are the boasts about
the size of the open world, and any mention of MTX and road-maps. The
former because I am /so/ burnt out on open-world games, and the latter >because I just want games that come complete unto themselves. I see
any of those three and my eyes just start glazing over. The other
mentions /may/ be an issue, but don't immediately turn me off.

What other red flags can you think of? Which ones piss you off the
most?

I don't mind open world, but advertising mtx is pretty much an interest
killer for me - they've basically given up on gameplay beyond making you
pay for progress.

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

Xocyll
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Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

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On Sun, 01 Jun 2025 12:12:38 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

Not my idea (I stole it from a video*) but I thought it a neat topic.

What are the warning signs in a video-game reveal (whether it's a
video trailer or an announcement or presentation) that a game might
not actually be as good as the marketing hype suggests.

The video offers the following suggestions:

1) The developers go on and on about how incredibly big the world is
(red flag because big does not necessarily equate to quality)

2) They play up the involvement of a major Hollywood actor
(red flag because now we know where the budget is REALLY going)

3) They are boastful about post-launch "road-maps"
(red flag because it means the game is going to be launched in
a stripped down state with no guarantee we'll ever get to
the stuff on the road map)

4) They admit the game has micro transactions, but theirs will be
'different' and 'better'
(red flag because they never are better)

5) They don't actually show any gameplay or the gameplay that is shown
is heavily scripted
(red flag because they know the gameplay sucks)

6) They only offer vague release dates.
(red flag because why get hyped for a game that might not
be released for years?)

Other suggestions include

- multiple editions being offered (e.g., get the Ultra
Platinum version with three plastic statues and a t-shirt
and a in-game cosmetic and -if you're really lucky- the actual
game too!)

- boasting about some connection with a past studio or old IP
(especially if it is then followed up by, "taking it in a
new direction"

- day one DLC (which, you know, could have just been added to
the game being released)

- "hundreds of hours of gameplay" (because pacing is a lost art)

Personally, at this point I don't even pay attention to reveal
trailers or announcements, beyond maybe acknowledging that the game is
in development. They're such pointless deceitful things whose purpose
isn't to inform you but instead to induce you into an emotional state
so you'll blindly buy the product when its released. But even so, its
hard to ignore them completely because -even months after the game is >released- these trailers are often the primary advertisement for the
games and they make it almost impossible to tell what the game is
actually like.

Still, I admit that the ones that annoy me most are the boasts about
the size of the open world, and any mention of MTX and road-maps. The
former because I am /so/ burnt out on open-world games, and the latter >because I just want games that come complete unto themselves. I see
any of those three and my eyes just start glazing over. The other
mentions /may/ be an issue, but don't immediately turn me off.

What other red flags can you think of? Which ones piss you off the
most?

The brand-name IP suddenly collapses, after the teaser trailer, and is
replaced by something mildly offensive.

I'm looking at you Descent which changed into STFU.

(Ships That Fight Underground)

I'm still waiting for the release, in the meantime, I'm playing Overload.

--
Zag

What's the point of growing up
if you can't be childish sometimes? ...Terrance Dicks, BBC

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On 01/06/2025 17:12, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

What other red flags can you think of? Which ones piss you off the
most?

I don't think I have a specific list (maybe NFT's) but instead a general feeling that it's gone from generating a bit of hype (that's marketing
for you) into promises that you just won't be delivered on. The largest
game world ever, completely realistic AI, choices that really matter, an
RPG with unparalleled flexibility, a truly living world etc. etc.

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On 01/06/2025 17:53, Xocyll wrote:

- day one DLC (which, you know, could have just been added to
the game being released)

I find DLC at all to be a bit of a red flag since this stuff often used
to be part of the main game, and is now split off to garner more
revenue.
Often a foot-shoot though, since without it in the base game people get
bored so much faster.
Since only the best bits will sell as a DLC, without it in the base game
it's far less interesting and people move on to something new without
ever considering buying the DLC.

I not against DLC if it follows the old concept of expansion packs where
the base game can be considered a complete experience but if you want
more then here it is. Where I think it actually works is wargames where
you get a few nations/time periods/theatres and the there will be a
variety of DLC to provide extra content. The difference here is that, at
least in my experience, people are quite picky about which of those they
want to play. The main developer of Field of Glory II summed it up when
asked a question about this by saying, once the base game is complete
the main cost is designing the models for the units. If you put too many
of them in then you push the price that will put people of as it will
contain content they don't actually want.

Oh and 2K games can screw off if they think I'm going to buy a Civ game
where you have to pay extra money just to play the British.

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JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

<snip>

Oh and 2K games can screw off if they think I'm going to buy a Civ game
where you have to pay extra money just to play the British.

That's not how you do it, you make them pay extra to _not_ play as the
French. :)

Xocyll
--
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a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

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Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.

Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for
a full game :( This isn't an investment.
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On 6/4/2025 6:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for
a full game :( This isn't an investment.

It is to the company making the game.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for
a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least
one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before
I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC
to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished
AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

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On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:05:16 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for
a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least
one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before
I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC
to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished
AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

I have Borderlands 1, 2, pre-sequel, and 3. I've never even played the "pre-sequel." In all that iterating, nothing has really changed.
Certainly not for the better.

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever
"buy it." Strictly for The Number.

--
Zag

What's the point of growing up
if you can't be childish sometimes? ...Terrance Dicks, BBC

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Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:05:16 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The >>Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of >>>> the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc.

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for
a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least
one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before
I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC
to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished
AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

I have Borderlands 1, 2, pre-sequel, and 3. I've never even played the "pre-sequel." In all that iterating, nothing has really changed.
Certainly not for the better.

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?
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On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:05:16 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of >>>>> the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc. >>>>>

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick
around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for >>>> a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least
one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before
I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC >>> to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished
AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

I have Borderlands 1, 2, pre-sequel, and 3. I've never even played the
"pre-sequel." In all that iterating, nothing has really changed.
Certainly not for the better.

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever
"buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

--
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dirty old man.

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On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 09:24:15 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:05:16 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The >>>> Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of >>>>>> the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc. >>>>>>

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick >>>>>> around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for >>>>> a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least >>>> one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before >>>> I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC >>>> to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished >>>> AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

I have Borderlands 1, 2, pre-sequel, and 3. I've never even played the
"pre-sequel." In all that iterating, nothing has really changed.
Certainly not for the better.

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever >>> "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

I have the disposable income, but I also have my pride. :^T

--
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Zaghadka <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 09:24:15 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

On Wed, 04 Jun 2025 17:05:16 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

candycanearter07 <[email protected]>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The >>>>> Augury is good, the signs say:

Xocyll <[email protected]> wrote at 18:04 this Sunday (GMT):

Justisaur <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of >>>>>>> the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 6/1/2025 9:53 AM, Xocyll wrote:

Not sure what you mean by road maps.

We'll add X feature 6 months down the road, Y feature in a year, etc. >>>>>>>

Ahh that.


Or as I think of it, "our game is gonna suck at release, but stick >>>>>>> around, cool shit is coming."

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of >>>>>>> a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably, >>>>>>> Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

If you're not going to release a full game, I shouldn't have to pay for >>>>>> a full game :( This isn't an investment.

Exactly, which is why I never pre-order and usually wait until at least >>>>> one patch has been released AND reviews post-patch are favorable before >>>>> I even consider buying a game.

They're asking $80-90 CDN for a stripped down game and want more for DLC >>>>> to bring it up to full spec, then I'm going to wait until it's finished >>>>> AND on sale.

Sale-GOTY in other words.

I have Borderlands 1, 2, pre-sequel, and 3. I've never even played the >>>> "pre-sequel." In all that iterating, nothing has really changed.
Certainly not for the better.

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever >>>> "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

I have the disposable income, but I also have my pride. :^T

Wilfully misconstruing: You're a Lion?

Xocyll
--
I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of
a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably,
Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So
FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr

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Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 16:24 this Saturday (GMT):

On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

[snip]

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever >>> "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

All moral costs?
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On 6/9/2025 10:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 16:24 this Saturday (GMT):

On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

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Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever >>>> "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

All moral costs?

Morality has been outlawed where I live and I'm not skilled enough as a
crook to have a lot of money.

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Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 00:30 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 6/9/2025 10:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 16:24 this Saturday (GMT): >>> On 6/7/2025 9:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 23:13 this Thursday (GMT):

[snip]

Borderlands 4 is like a Hummel doll that stays on a shelf to me if I ever >>>>> "buy it." Strictly for The Number.

The number msut go up at all costs?

Sorry, I don't make enough to afford all costs.

All moral costs?

Morality has been outlawed where I live and I'm not skilled enough as a
crook to have a lot of money.

United States, I take it?
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