But at the same time, the public at large is --especially now--
extremely sensitive to price hikes, and video games are unnecessary
luxuries that many think they can cut back on purchasing.
I've said it before, but I grudgingly agree that video games probably
should be priced more.* The $60USD 'standard price' for AAA games is historically low if you take inflation into account, even as the games themselves are becoming ever more larger and more complex.**
** but an equally important question that never seems to be asked is:
do games NEED to be that large?
On 21/05/2025 01:15, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
I've said it before, but I grudgingly agree that video games probably
should be priced more.* The $60USD 'standard price' for AAA games is
historically low if you take inflation into account, even as the games
themselves are becoming ever more larger and more complex.**
I think just looking at inflation is a rather blunt tool as it doesn't
take into account factors such as price anchoring, the number of games
being released, all those freebies and the number of copies sold.
I'd probably also add that the triple-A publishers obviously do think
there's a decent profit to be made even with the increased development
costs.
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.
I am in the 'not interested' demographic. I could afford an $80 but
only if it was something I was very interested in. I'll wait until a
big sale if I even ever get enough interest. If the big sale never
happens, oh well.
But a smaller game world can provide as intense an experience. It
costs significantly less too. And since the customary excuse AAA
studios make for their live-service nonsense is that games are too
expensive to develop without that added revenue, maybe they should
consider trimming back their games before reaching into our wallets.
Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
Procedurally generated open world grinds have 30 hours of real gameplay,
IMO. Elite: Dangerous for instance. Or TES. Some people get unlimited
play out of that, I get about 30-40 hours and then I'm bored. Often to
the exclusion of the story quest. Which is plenty. But it's not because
the game is actually full of content. Skyrim's map is pretty tiny, for instance, and E:Dangerous is 90% empty space.
Civ, otoh, I play and play and play. I have over a thousand hours in Civ
V (with considerable help from my wife). I have 100 in Civ VI, on my own.
I never counted the hours in earlier versions. But that's a different experience. You can get a lot of mileage out of something like "Monopoly"
or "Parcheesi." A game where your approach to random starts is more
important than actual content gives many hours to the player. It's like you're procedurally generating the game yourself.
So "large" games are mostly a gimmick to me. Nobody puts the actual time
in. I was shocked at the 15 hour, story driven single-player FPS when it first happened, but it really is the sweet spot, as demonstrated by the original Half Life. FarCry is not the sweet spot, unless you really like ambushing things over and over again only to have them respawn.
If I get 60+ hours out of a game, it's probably due to interesting play,
not the size of the content, and very few games truly provide the content
to begin with.
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have beenNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have beenNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have beenNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>> not GTA 6.
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote:
Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
I've had the feeling for a while now that Grand Theft Auto VI is going
to end up being a disappointment for Rockstar. It'll probably do well
in absolute terms and be one of the best selling games of next year,
but something I can't quite put my finger on is making me think this is
where Rockstar finally stumbles.
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the pornWell, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid people.... ;)
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaningNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>> not GTA 6.
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 15:32 this Monday (GMT):
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>> not GTA 6.Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>>
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
people.... ;)
It seems to have a pretty high concentration, though.
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have beenNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>> not GTA 6.
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the pornWell, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid >people.... ;)
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaningNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>> not GTA 6.
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
On 23/05/2025 17:17, Zaghadka wrote:
If I get 60+ hours out of a game, it's probably due to interesting play,That's the problem I have with the longer games. They mostly feel like >they've been padded out just because the dev's think that they need to
not the size of the content, and very few games truly provide the content
to begin with.
do that otherwise people will complain about value for money. It was one
of the complaints about the Outer Worlds as you might typically spend a >'mere' 25hrs to complete it. For me it was almost perfect as I felt I'd
seen all the game had to offer including the ending.
On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid >>people.... ;)
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>> not GTA 6.Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>>
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.
People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.
Zaghadka <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>> not GTA 6.Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
people.... ;)
Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.
People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.
You have only to watch them walk into traffic staring at their phones to
know that.
When I go out my phone lives in a back pocket, ignored utterly until I
need to call a cab or someone calls me.
No data plan, cause who the fuck wants to use the internet on a 1.5"x1" screen?
It's not the internet that makes them stupid, it's social media and
clickbait sites (that both use the same techniques for "viewer
engagement".)
On 5/27/2025 7:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <[email protected]> wrote at 15:32 this Monday (GMT): >>> On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>> not GTA 6.Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
people.... ;)
It seems to have a pretty high concentration, though.
No higher than the general population. My current job and a past job involved access to police records and criminal case files. There are a
LOT of VERY stupid people.
On 5/27/2025 12:36 PM, Xocyll wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails ofI still use a flip-phone. Old school flip-phone.
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,You have only to watch them walk into traffic staring at their phones to
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>>> not GTA 6.Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just >>>>>> because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
people.... ;)
Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.
People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time. >>
know that.
When I go out my phone lives in a back pocket, ignored utterly until I
need to call a cab or someone calls me.
No data plan, cause who the fuck wants to use the internet on a 1.5"x1"
screen?
It's not the internet that makes them stupid, it's social media and
clickbait sites (that both use the same techniques for "viewer
engagement".)
Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet*makes* you stupid.
People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.
On Mon, 26 May 2025 07:00:05 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:
JAB <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:Well, [fools] with money, which is all that matters to PT Barnum or
On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:
I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based onSaying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaningNeither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>> not GTA 6.
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just >>>because a trailer had been released.
But the Internet is full of stupid people.
Rockstar Games.
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm going to stick to the main quest line.
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm
going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was >announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous >attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme
corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm
going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme
corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
On 08/06/2025 07:51, Anssi Saari wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm >>> going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was
announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous
attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme
corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
I didn't have a problem with that as to me it came across not as some
sort of serious political commentary but instead really just a parody. >Admittedly parody has a long history of effectively being used as
criticism in an easier to take format.
I didn't have a problem with that as to me it came across not as someYeah. It's in the tradition of Jonathan Swift or George Bernard Shaw.
sort of serious political commentary but instead really just a parody.
Admittedly parody has a long history of effectively being used as
criticism in an easier to take format.
Wait... what? Did I just say that?
On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:51:57 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm >>> going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was >>announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous >>attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme
corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
Poorly. I'm busier watching Danganronpa let's plays with my daughter rn.
It's a bonding thing.
Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 20:56 this Monday (GMT):
On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:51:57 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release, >>>> and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm >>>> going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was >>>announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous >>>attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme
corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
Poorly. I'm busier watching Danganronpa let's plays with my daughter rn.
It's a bonding thing.
I've heard Dangan is an enjoyable mess. How has it been for you?
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 21:00:15 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> wrote at 20:56 this Monday (GMT):
On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 09:51:57 +0300, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Anssi Saari wrote:
Zaghadka <[email protected]> writes:
Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release, >>>>> and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm >>>>> going to stick to the main quest line.
So how is that going? I've been thinking of the same as the sequel was >>>>announced and actually restarted yesterday. From Epic stats my previous >>>>attempt was all of four hours. I can already tell the extreme >>>>corporatism at the start gets old really fast.
Poorly. I'm busier watching Danganronpa let's plays with my daughter rn. >>> It's a bonding thing.
I've heard Dangan is an enjoyable mess. How has it been for you?
It's an enjoyable mess!
I would never play these games. Years ago, I actually tried playing DR1 because she asked, and while I could do a funny YouTuber routine (such as rolling my eyes and chucking my controller every time Hagakure showed
up), the gameplay is eye glazingly boring until the trials. The graphics
are also pure s__t.
The developer also has a weird sense of sexual humor, and they are
basically written for 14 year old boys, so be ready for that.
Otherwise, for lore's sake you want to start at the beginning. For
gameplay's sake, the improvement in the series is exponential at each
sequel. Character development doesn't really take off until V3.
On Tue, 20 May 2025 20:15:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<[email protected]> wrote:
So, "Borderlands 4" is now available for pre-order and we know the
game's price: rather than the promised $80 USD (which "real fans"
would be happy to pay), Gearbox has decided to go for $70 USD.
I've said it before; while I've no /love/ of games going up in price,
I can understand the need. While I think a jump from the current
"normal" price of $60USD to $80 is a bit steep, it's understandable. I honestly think that Gearbox /could/ have gotten away with it too... if
it wasn't for Randy Pitchford's ill-chosen words (and subsequent
inability to back away from the topic). Players would have grumbled,
sure, but seeing as how Nintendo and others are making similar
price-hikes, gamers as a whole would have swallowed their ire and
bought the game with its inflated price-tag.
But because Randy Pitchford had to chime in, he cost Gearbox --and
parent company Take Two-- potentially millions of dollars because he
a) alienated a lot of fans, and
b) brought a lot of focus on the price hike and made
a lot of people wait to see if the game is actually going
to be worth the increased cost.
Gearbox and Take-Two are obviously trying to do some damage control
here by 'compromising' and releasing the game at $70. I'm sure it will
work to a degree. I think they'll still have lost a lot of sales
because of the fiasco.
<rant; ROT13'd for those who just care about games-related stuff>
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 05:50:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hey, you're not gonna believe this, but the pricing issue got /WORSE/. >>APPARENTLY, NOW THEY'RE SELLING THE "COLLECTORS EDITION" WITHOUT THE
GAME INCLUDED.
Why on EARTH would a fan ever spend 160$ to not even get the game they >>wanted, and have to shell out an extra 80 DOLLARS on top of that?! THis
is honestly getting ridiculous, especially with how BL3 was recieved.
As terrible as it is, Gearbox isn't the first to do that. There have
been other games that have sold 'premium' editions that included
everything* /but/ the game (I think Ubisoft was famous for this).
I don't get it myself but I'm not the sort of person interested in all
the tchotchke2 and knick-knacks they sell anyway. I mean, there MUST a
market for it, but damned if I can understand the logic of buying all
that crap for a game I can't even play?
* I say "everything" but often these super-premium editions are
divided up so there's no way you can get all the crap without buying
multiple versions because some items are exclusive to different
editions. Marketing people deserved to be scalped for shit like this.
Well, damn. I hope that doesn't spread, then.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 05:50:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 ><[email protected]> wrote:
Hey, you're not gonna believe this, but the pricing issue got /WORSE/. >>APPARENTLY, NOW THEY'RE SELLING THE "COLLECTORS EDITION" WITHOUT THE
GAME INCLUDED.
Why on EARTH would a fan ever spend 160$ to not even get the game they >>wanted, and have to shell out an extra 80 DOLLARS on top of that?! THis
is honestly getting ridiculous, especially with how BL3 was recieved.
As terrible as it is, Gearbox isn't the first to do that. There have
been other games that have sold 'premium' editions that included
everything* /but/ the game (I think Ubisoft was famous for this).
I don't get it myself but I'm not the sort of person interested in all
the tchotchke2 and knick-knacks they sell anyway. I mean, there MUST a
market for it, but damned if I can understand the logic of buying all
that crap for a game I can't even play?
* I say "everything" but often these super-premium editions are
divided up so there's no way you can get all the crap without buying
multiple versions because some items are exclusive to different
editions. Marketing people deserved to be scalped for shit like this.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 19:00:05 -0000 (UTC), in
comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, candycanearter07 wrote:
Well, damn. I hope that doesn't spread, then.
That's what we said about COVID...
You just gotta love Randy. He doesn't stop.
After getting himself and his game in hot water with the fans for
suggesting it should sell for $80, he's now claiming "I think they
could charge $200" for Borderlands 4.* Not that he's saying it will go
for that price, just that it could because, you know, it's such an
exciting and innovative game and not a third sequel in an increasingly
tired franchise and a follow-up to a flop of a movie.
It's not the statement itself that is really the problem, of course.
On the face of it, it's just Randy saying, "Hey, I think this game is
really great and you're getting good value when you buy it". But it
reminds everybody of his earlier misstep, which is really the last
thing you'd want to do.
Of course, Strauss Zelnick, Randy's boss and chief exec at Take Two,
has basically blessed Randy's outbursts. "I love his big personality", >Strauss reportedly said in June.** So why should Randy keep his mouth
shut? Sure it might cost Take Two some sales, but Randy won't be
losing his job (or bonus) over it. Those sort of consequences are only
for the little people.
You just gotta love Randy. He doesn't stop.
After getting himself and his game in hot water with the fans for
suggesting it should sell for $80, he's now claiming "I think they
could charge $200" for Borderlands 4.*
Of course, Strauss Zelnick, Randy's boss and chief exec at Take Two,
has basically blessed Randy's outbursts. "I love his big personality", >Strauss reportedly said in June.**
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