AMD Ryzen 5 8500G $149
My son expressed an interest in upgrading his computer, he's waffling
though, as I told him he needs to pay for it himself. He has the money,
but doesn't want to use it. I would pay local taxes to help out.
My goal was to keep costs down, but make it at least as good as what I
have now. The one he has now is a handmedown from his grands,
unfortunately the case is a propriatary dell with a propriatary
motherboard, a normal ATX doesn't fit in it, so I can't use it. I may
be able to use the PSU, but need to tear it apart to do so. I'm only planning on a 500W PSU as it seems power requirements have gone down considerably.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 09:37:21 +0000, JAB <[email protected]> wrote:
On 02/12/2024 21:23, Justisaur wrote:
My son expressed an interest in upgrading his computer, he's waffling
though, as I told him he needs to pay for it himself.� He has the money, >>> but doesn't want to use it.� I would pay local taxes to help out.
My goal was to keep costs down, but make it at least as good as what I
have now. The one he has now is a handmedown from his grands,
unfortunately the case is a propriatary dell with a propriatary
motherboard, a normal ATX doesn't fit in it, so I can't use it.� I may
be able to use the PSU, but need to tear it apart to do so.� I'm only
planning on a 500W PSU as it seems power requirements have gone down
considerably.
My not so helpfully advice is don't overthink it too much as the reality
is unless you do something disastrous it's going to do the job for you.
My last upgrade, instead of doing my customary spending ages trying to >>decide exactly what to get I went down the I don't need a 'god like' PC
so let's just spend a little bit of time online looking for recommended >>budget gaming set-ups. Did I get the best value for money, almost >>definitely not but I also didn't waste hours upon hours of 'research'
just to say feck it I'll go with that which I looked at two weeks ago.
The other problem I found is that what would seem a good place for
advice (real people online) turns out to be really problematic in that
it ranges from at worst bad advice and at best this is the system I
would want regardless of whether that would met your needs. Oh you want
a new PC for general day-to-day stuff as some light gaming. Well clearly >>what you want is system built around a 4090!
If money is an issue and you aren't going for LATEST AND GREATEST AND
FASTEST AND OTHER -ESTS!, you may also wish to consider the Intel Arc
GPUs (although that may force you onto an Intel CPU). The Arc B580 is >reportedly as fast as an Nvidia 4060 and for $250 USD that's a pretty
good performance-to-price ratio.
On 12/4/2024 1:37 AM, JAB wrote:
On 02/12/2024 21:23, Justisaur wrote:
My son expressed an interest in upgrading his computer, he's waffling
though, as I told him he needs to pay for it himself. He has the
money, but doesn't want to use it. I would pay local taxes to help out. >>>
My goal was to keep costs down, but make it at least as good as what
I have now. The one he has now is a handmedown from his grands,
unfortunately the case is a propriatary dell with a propriatary
motherboard, a normal ATX doesn't fit in it, so I can't use it. I
may be able to use the PSU, but need to tear it apart to do so. I'm
only planning on a 500W PSU as it seems power requirements have gone
down considerably.
My not so helpfully advice is don't overthink it too much as the
reality is unless you do something disastrous it's going to do the job
for you. My last upgrade, instead of doing my customary spending ages
trying to decide exactly what to get I went down the I don't need a
'god like' PC so let's just spend a little bit of time online looking
for recommended budget gaming set-ups. Did I get the best value for
money, almost definitely not but I also didn't waste hours upon hours
of 'research' just to say feck it I'll go with that which I looked at
two weeks ago.
The other problem I found is that what would seem a good place for
advice (real people online) turns out to be really problematic in that
it ranges from at worst bad advice and at best this is the system I
would want regardless of whether that would met your needs. Oh you
want a new PC for general day-to-day stuff as some light gaming. Well
clearly what you want is system built around a 4090!
The adive I've gotten here has been far above anything I've found
elsewhere over the years :) Hopefully I've given some too.
I already ordered it, I probably made some mistakes (as Ross pointed
out) but it's still hundreds of dollars less than a branded gaming
computer of probably similar performance (or more like much higher performance for the budget than one.)
I do have to put it together, which I've definitely lost a lot of my
interest for after my last one, but I'm willing to put in the time for
my family. If I counted what I'm paid vs. the time put into it, I'm
sure I come out behind. Part of it is just my hatred of getting stuck
with unupgradable proprietary junk. Not that I usually upgrade anything except the video card separately, but the PS & case can last many
generations of computer. I know one can get the computer built to order with the parts you want but that comes at a premium.
The adive I've gotten here has been far above anything I've found
elsewhere over the years :) Hopefully I've given some too.
Part of it is just my hatred of getting stuck
with unupgradable proprietary junk.
I tried looking into the onboard graphics for 8500G, but couldn't seem
to find much. I should've just suggested he try that first and then
could buy a separate graphics card if necessary, although prices are
likely to raise considerably next year in the US for everything (tariffs.)
One of my biggest complaints with my current PC is
something I completely overlooked: the placement of the power-button
(it's in the middle of the top panel; inconvenient to reach, but easy
to press accidentally when I put something on top of the PC).
Do you really need that bleeding edge GPU? I don't think I know any
game which demands 16GB yet, much less 32GB, so maybe less RAM?
On 12/6/2024 5:55 PM, Xocyll wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <[email protected]> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
<snippety>
One of my biggest complaints with my current PC is
something I completely overlooked: the placement of the power-button
(it's in the middle of the top panel; inconvenient to reach, but easy
to press accidentally when I put something on top of the PC).
Yeah,. Corsair 4000D case here, and the usual front of the case buttons
are on the top of the case, as is the USB port (Way to build a dust collector guys.)
But since there's no room for an internal dvd drive, I bought an
external, which site on the top front of the computer, covering the
buttons and USB dust collector.
Ugh. Yeah I should've looked more closely at that, my current one has
the USB & power on top, though that's more convenient as I've got the
front behind my monitor, his current one is in front and that's
obviously better based on the schmutz on the the top, but the new one's >coming with all that top mounted.
I don't have all the parts yet. They should all be here next week
except for the the case might not be here until after Christmas. He's >itching to get it up and running so I might do with 'cardboard box' case >until it gets here. The VC might not be here until right before
Christmas, I don't see any point to using it until we get that though.
I'll have to check if the CPU fan covers any screwholes too as I'm not
taking it off to screw it in the case.
I'm still playing on 1080p myself. I suppose I should get a higher res >monitor and see if it makes a difference, but my eyes are getting old,
and I have trouble reading at much higher resolutions on similar screen >realestate. The 27" monitor I have is really too big for gaming on my
desk as I can't really focus on the whole screen, and I've actually been >running a lot of games windowed with smaller screen real-estate because
of it.
I ordered a 24" for my son as a gift (still 1080p) and am strongly >considering just giving my 27" inch to him and taking the 24", I may be
able to fit the 19" in portrait next to it too, which I can't do with
the 27", I miss my dual monitors.
I don't think I know any game which demands 16GB yet, much less 32GB,
so maybe less RAM?
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