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    From Bill Chatfield@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 11:51:40 2023
    With the end of Google Groups, It'd be nice if there were a
    one-stop-shop for Google Groups replacement instructions, separated by
    OS and news reader client.

    You might argue that the individual news readers should document their
    own usage instructions and then I might rudely laugh at you. But, I
    probably wouldn't because I'm not usually that rude. For example, the instructions for slrn are absolutely terrible. I can't even get
    Evolution on Linux to work as there are no instructions for reading
    news even though it's supposed to be able to do it. And Thunderbird on
    Linux doesn't work correctly, or I can't get it to work correctly.

    So, the instructions should include which programs to use on which
    platforms because how do you know that unless you waste a bunch of time
    trying them all. Only one person should have to waste all that time.

    I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Groups was
    free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed their server addresses into the news reader setup instructions.

    o Windows
    - Microsoft
    - Thunderbird
    - Claws Mail
    - ReactOS
    - ???
    o Mac
    - Current Supported Version
    - ???
    - MacOS 10.4
    - ???
    - MacOS 9
    - ???
    o Linux
    - Fedora
    - Claws Mail
    - Ubuntu
    - ???
    - Raspberry PI
    - ???
    o Apple II
    - Apple IIgs
    - ???
    - Apple IIe/c/Plus
    - ???
    o Atari
    o Amiga
    o Commodedoor
    o OpenIndiana (Solaris)
    o MS-DOS
    o GhostBSD (FreeBSD)

    We could use a collaborative documentation system (that has the
    ability to include screenshots) so that each person could document his
    own news reader of preference.

    We could advertise our documentation in the Facebook groups to lure
    people away.

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  • From MummyChunk@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 21 01:40:43 2023
    Bill Chatfield wrote:
    With the end of Google Groups, It'd be nice if there were a
    one-stop-shop for Google Groups replacement instructions, separated
    by
    OS and news reader client.

    You might argue that the individual news readers should document
    their
    own usage instructions and then I might rudely laugh at you. But, I
    probably wouldn't because I'm not usually that rude. For example,
    the
    instructions for slrn are absolutely terrible. I can't even get
    Evolution on Linux to work as there are no instructions for reading
    news even though it's supposed to be able to do it. And Thunderbird
    on
    Linux doesn't work correctly, or I can't get it to work correctly.

    So, the instructions should include which programs to use on which
    platforms because how do you know that unless you waste a bunch of
    time
    trying them all. Only one person should have to waste all that
    time.

    I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Groups
    was
    free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed their
    server
    addresses into the news reader setup instructions.

    o Windows
    - Microsoft
    - Thunderbird
    - Claws Mail
    - ReactOS
    - ???
    o Mac
    - Current Supported Version
    - ???
    - MacOS 10.4
    - ???
    - MacOS 9
    - ???
    o Linux
    - Fedora
    - Claws Mail
    - Ubuntu
    - ???
    - Raspberry PI
    - ???
    o Apple II
    - Apple IIgs
    - ???
    - Apple IIe/c/Plus
    - ???
    o Atari
    o Amiga
    o Commodedoor
    o OpenIndiana (Solaris)
    o MS-DOS
    o GhostBSD (FreeBSD)

    We could use a collaborative documentation system (that has the
    ability to include screenshots) so that each person could document
    his
    own news reader of preference.

    We could advertise our documentation in the Facebook groups to lure
    people away.

    Plenty of web front ends like google groups.
    Maybe make a consolidated list in the group FAQs


    This is a response to the post seen at: http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657610855#657610855

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  • From D Finnigan@21:1/5 to Bill Chatfield on Fri Dec 22 02:32:39 2023
    Bill Chatfield wrote:

    o Apple II
    - Apple IIgs
    - ???
    - Apple IIe/c/Plus
    - ???

    I have substitutes for the question marks:

    Ewen Wannop's SNAP for the Apple IIgs, and
    Bobbi Manners's emai//er 2.0.0 for Apple IIe (also runs on IIgs)

    There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but I
    may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?

    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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  • From Ralf Kiefer@21:1/5 to Bill Chatfield on Fri Dec 22 12:15:22 2023
    Bill Chatfield wrote:

    - MacOS 9
    - ???

    MacOS X
    MacOS 7.6 ... 8.6

    - MacSOUP (Shareware)


    Regards
    Ralf

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  • From D Finnigan@21:1/5 to D Finnigan on Sat Dec 23 01:10:03 2023
    D Finnigan wrote:

    There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but
    I
    may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?


    Today, I am that GNO person, and I found it. :-)
    It's called MuGS, released 1994, "A passive NNTP newsreader for use with ProLine, GNO or other."

    https://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=11302

    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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  • From Kelvin Sherlock@21:1/5 to D Finnigan on Mon Dec 25 02:21:57 2023
    That reminds me... about 25 years ago I fortuitously found a unix
    utility named uqwk which would generate a qwk file of usenet posts.
    qwk was some sort of offline-mail system used by some BBSes and there
    were a couple Apple II qwk readers, 2qwk! perhaps being the best known.

    In <[email protected]> D Finnigan <[email protected]> writes:

    D Finnigan wrote:

    There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but
    I
    may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?


    Today, I am that GNO person, and I found it. :-)
    It's called MuGS, released 1994, "A passive NNTP newsreader for use with >ProLine, GNO or other."

    https://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=11302

    --
    ]DF$
    The New Apple II User's Guide:
    https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

    -------
    ProLine: kelvin@pro-kegs

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  • From Jesse Rehmer@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 1 23:00:15 2024
    On Dec 20, 2023 at 10:51:40 AM CST, "Bill Chatfield" <[email protected]> wrote:

    I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Groups was
    free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed their server addresses into the news reader setup instructions.

    Users in csa2 may be interested in connecting my Usenet server. I have
    articles going back to the mid 90s for this group (and many others) and am adding to the archive.

    It is available via NNTP without authentication at news.blueworldhosting.com. Users who want to post can contact me via e-mail for an account. Some additional information about the service is published at https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com.

    I'm debating adding a web frontend for reading, like RockSolid Light (https://gitlab.com/rslight-public/rocksolid-light), but I'm concentrated on putting the archive together on a real Usenet spool first.

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  • From Colin Leroy-Mira@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 21:47:56 2024
    Hi,

    MacOS X
    MacOS 7.6 ... 8.6

    - MacSOUP (Shareware)

    MacSOUP's thread view was *awesome*, I used it for a very years
    before switching to Linux, and remember it fondly.
    --
    Colin
    https://www.colino.net/

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  • From Colin Leroy-Mira@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 21:46:30 2024
    Hi,

    X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu)

    I spot a fellow with a very good taste in email clients ;)

    o Linux
    - Fedora
    - Claws Mail
    - Ubuntu
    - ???
    - Raspberry PI
    - ???

    Well, Claws-Mail is available and packaged on about every Linux distro,
    even if sometimes in the "universe", "extras", or whatever name it has,
    repo.


    --
    Colin
    https://www.colino.net/

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  • From Steve Nickolas@21:1/5 to Colin Leroy-Mira on Fri Feb 2 10:05:14 2024
    On Thu, 1 Feb 2024, Colin Leroy-Mira wrote:

    Hi,

    X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu)

    I spot a fellow with a very good taste in email clients ;)

    Can't say I've heard of it - I use Alpine ;)

    -uso.

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