1. Forum
  2. Usenet
  3. COMP.SYS.MAC.PORTABLES

  • Who is going to buy the first Arm (M1) MacBooks?

    From Tim@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 11 22:45:27 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.systems

    On 11 Nov 2020 at 22:40:09 GMT, Ant <Ant> wrote:

    It looks like Apple doesn't even sell its old Intel Macs from its web site? :(

    You can still buy Intel Minis.

    --
    Tim

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 11 17:46:19 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.systems, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

    In article <[email protected]>, Ant <[email protected]> wrote:

    It looks like Apple doesn't even sell its old Intel Macs from its web site? :(

    yes they do, and there's a lot of them.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Ant on Thu Nov 12 15:09:07 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

    On 2020-11-12 02:00:06 +0000, Ant said:
    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Tim <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 11 Nov 2020 at 22:40:09 GMT, Ant <Ant> wrote:

    It looks like Apple doesn't even sell its old Intel Macs from its web site? :(

    You can still buy Intel Minis.

    Ah, but no MacBooks?

    MacBook Pro 13", two Intel versions.
    MacBook Air, no intel versions.

    At least on the New Zealand Apple Store website.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From nospam@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 11 20:15:47 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

    In article <VU%qH.433945$[email protected]>, JF Mezei <[email protected]> wrote:

    The 16GB config max for the Air is laughable.

    it's a completely different architecture, therefore direct comparisons
    are bogus.

    ipads and iphones do exceptionally well with 4 gig.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to Lewis on Sat Nov 14 05:21:04 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

    On 2020-11-14 04:47, Lewis wrote:

    Yeo, especially considering how simple the transition from Intel to ARM
    was for the developers (One spent several days porting, but the others
    did their ports in under a day and one spent less than 15 minutes).


    Simple enough that it will take months more for Adobe to release native Photoshop.

    If you want to create binaries that make use of the new various
    sub-processors like neural engine, image processor etc, support the
    integrated GPUs etc, you need to start putting in a lot of conditional
    code that applies only for a compilation targetted at the Mx chips, and
    still generate your normal code for all other platforms.

    Remains to be seen how much use Adobe will make the the proprietary
    processors around he CPU, and how much Metal/GPU they will use.

    It is also possible that merely recompiling wouldn't have yielded
    marketable performance.

    It is also possible that Adobe is waiting for usable Macs (aka: next
    models with more RAM) and the delay has nothing to do with the porting
    effort.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to JF Mezei on Sun Nov 15 10:15:54 2020
    XPost: comp.sys.mac.system, comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc

    In message <2C1sH.110171$[email protected]> JF Mezei <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2020-11-14 18:26, Lewis wrote:

    Eventually. Honestly, "net year" is lightning speed for Adobe.

    Adobe would have been aware of Apple's move to ARm for some time, well
    before WWDC announcement. Adobe has also ported Photoshop to IOS/iPAD
    OS, so some of that work may already have been done.

    And yet, Adobe is slow. Adobe is always slow. Their sloth has nothing to
    do with anything or anyone who is not Adobe.

    What surprises me is that Photoshop was mentioned, not Première or After Effects which are facr more complex software in terms of hardware
    interaction because they, at least on Wintel with CUDA GPSU will make
    use of the GPUs a lot.

    Photoshop is Adobe's #1 product.

    Omni, all app on day one for M1. Affinity, all apps on M1 on one. Adobe
    and Microsoft? Eh, some day next year probably. Google? 2027 for
    anything not Chrome.


    The keynote spoke at great length of its laptops for video and photo
    editing. It didn't focus on those laptops being use for workd processor
    or email.

    I made zero mention of any "workd processor or email" apps.

    If the keynote focuses on the very tasks handled by Adobe,
    then if Adobe isn't there, it's a problem.

    It's a problem for Adobe, sure.

    (Especially since at WWDC they demoed Adobe software running translated, which shows they place importance on Adobe software.

    It shows "Even Adboe software will run (because we all know how much of
    a pain in the ass Adobe software is, don't we?)"




    --
    I'd like to move us right along to a Peter Gibbons. Now we had a
    chance to meet this young man, and boy that's just a straight
    shooter with upper management written all over him.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)