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  • Re: Who was Richard Sapper?

    From MisterArgent@21:1/5 to IBMMuseum on Thu Aug 3 13:59:12 2023
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:46:31 PM UTC-5, IBMMuseum wrote:
    Richard Sapper design

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    Someone at IBM felt that the external appearance of the 5140 should carry over to the PS/2 line - as far as an intended 'Model 40', I think that is nothing more than a coincidence (and even '5140' vs. '8543'). However, the PC Convertible does have a
    number of components from Seiko-Epson, which are prevalent in the 8086-based Model 30 (and later the Model 25 'XT'). Then we go down the rabbit-hole of whether the Model 30 was even an IBM design (Epson Equity 1e being a Model 30 clone down to the hidden
    I/O registers).

    Huh, I hadn't considered the possibility that the PC Convertible was just them genuinely trying something new (which influenced the PS/2 line in turn). Had a hunch there was a close relation between the two, but was unclear on the exact details.

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  • From IBMMuseum@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 3 13:46:30 2023
    Richard Sapper design

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    Someone at IBM felt that the external appearance of the 5140 should carry over to the PS/2 line - as far as an intended 'Model 40', I think that is nothing more than a coincidence (and even '5140' vs. '8543'). However, the PC Convertible does have a
    number of components from Seiko-Epson, which are prevalent in the 8086-based Model 30 (and later the Model 25 'XT'). Then we go down the rabbit-hole of whether the Model 30 was even an IBM design (Epson Equity 1e being a Model 30 clone down to the hidden
    I/O registers).

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to MisterArgent on Thu Aug 3 15:32:01 2023
    Do tell...

    MisterArgent wrote:
    Richard Sapper design

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to MisterArgent on Thu Aug 3 17:58:53 2023
    https://web.archive.org/web/20230601155953/https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    MisterArgent wrote:
    On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 3:46:31 PM UTC-5, IBMMuseum wrote:
    Richard Sapper design

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    Someone at IBM felt that the external appearance of the 5140 should carry over to the PS/2 line - as far as an intended 'Model 40', I think that is nothing more than a coincidence (and even '5140' vs. '8543'). However, the PC Convertible does have a
    number of components from Seiko-Epson, which are prevalent in the 8086-based Model 30 (and later the Model 25 'XT'). Then we go down the rabbit-hole of whether the Model 30 was even an IBM design (Epson Equity 1e being a Model 30 clone down to the hidden
    I/O registers).

    Huh, I hadn't considered the possibility that the PC Convertible was just them genuinely trying something new (which influenced the PS/2 line in turn). Had a hunch there was a close relation between the two, but was unclear on the exact details.


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  • From IBMMuseum@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 07:56:29 2023
    https://web.archive.org/web/20230601155953/https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    Which is still an active page I linked above...

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to IBMMuseum on Fri Aug 4 12:15:04 2023
    At the time, it didn't resolve.

    IBMMuseum wrote:
    > https://web.archive.org/web/20230601155953/https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/mod-5140/

    Which is still an active page I linked above...


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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to IBMMuseum on Fri Aug 4 20:47:56 2023
    On 03-08-2023 22:46, IBMMuseum wrote:
    Richard Sapper design


    Some more designs:

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/thinkpad-701/

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/thinkpad-700c/

    https://richardsapperdesign.com/products/ps-1-mod-111/

    Distinctive . . .


    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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