• Re: Thuderbird NNTP Test

    From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Oct 17 21:57:46 2022
    On 17.10.2022 21:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.

    Hah, looks like it no longer crashes when sending NNTP messages.

    Strange. There were NNTP-related fixes in some of the previous minor
    updates, but these didn't fix the problem for me. I don't see any NNTP
    bugfixes in the latest (102.3.3) release notes... yet it works meow. Hmm

    Louis, can you confirm? (if you still have TB installed for emails)

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 17 21:49:43 2022
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Oct 17 22:18:05 2022
    On 17-10-2022 21:57, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 17.10.2022 21:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.

    Hah, looks like it no longer crashes when sending NNTP messages.

    Strange. There were NNTP-related fixes in some of the previous minor updates, but these didn't fix the problem for me. I don't see any NNTP bugfixes in the latest (102.3.3) release notes... yet it works meow. Hmm

    Louis, can you confirm? (if you still have TB installed for emails)

    Hey, that sounds hopeful!

    I'm still holding station at 91.11.0 (64-bit) on Mint 20.2

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to JWR on Mon Oct 17 22:40:02 2022
    On 17.10.2022 22:18, JWR wrote:
    On 17-10-2022 21:57, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 17.10.2022 21:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.

    Hah, looks like it no longer crashes when sending NNTP messages.

    Strange. There were NNTP-related fixes in some of the previous minor
    updates, but these didn't fix the problem for me. I don't see any NNTP
    bugfixes in the latest (102.3.3) release notes... yet it works meow. Hmm

    Louis, can you confirm? (if you still have TB installed for emails)

    Hey, that sounds hopeful!

    I'm still holding station at 91.11.0 (64-bit) on Mint 20.2


    Thunderbird 102.3.3 (64-bit), Windows 10 21H2 here.

    But yea, better wait a bit longer. At least until somebody else confirms
    this as fixed. :)

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 12:37:55 2022
    Am 17.10.2022 um 21:49:43 Uhr schrieb Tomas Slavotinek:

    Subject: Thuderbird NNTP Test

    Please use test groups for testing a newsreader.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Tue Oct 18 06:47:58 2022
    It's more inconvenient to have TB fold up like a cheap suit when trying
    to post to a newsgroup. At least we can findt out how it's going...

    Seamonkey has poorer handling of images with it's mail app.

    Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 18.10.2022 12:37, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 17.10.2022 um 21:49:43 Uhr schrieb Tomas Slavotinek:

    Subject: Thuderbird NNTP Test

    Please use test groups for testing a newsreader.

    Yeah, perhaps alt.test would have been a better place for this. But I'd
    be posting my results here anyway, since I know that some CSIPH members
    are interested in knowing what the situation with TB 102 is.

    Well, if anyone finds this thread distracting, then I apologize.
    Hopefully my other contributions offset this "inconvenience".

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Oct 18 13:20:19 2022
    On 18.10.2022 12:37, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 17.10.2022 um 21:49:43 Uhr schrieb Tomas Slavotinek:

    Subject: Thuderbird NNTP Test

    Please use test groups for testing a newsreader.

    Yeah, perhaps alt.test would have been a better place for this. But I'd
    be posting my results here anyway, since I know that some CSIPH members
    are interested in knowing what the situation with TB 102 is.

    Well, if anyone finds this thread distracting, then I apologize.
    Hopefully my other contributions offset this "inconvenience".

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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Nov 9 13:52:30 2022
    On 18/10/22 03:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.
    Hi Thomas

    been using Thunderbird for years and years ATM 10.4.0
    never had any issues

    Debian on a ACER Veriton/I7 with 8GB RAM

    most of the tiume through SSH X session

    would help maybe to give details of your setup, as it could be hardware
    related issue at your end. example RAM

    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to moussa on Wed Nov 9 13:53:24 2022
    On 9/11/22 13:52, moussa wrote:
    On 18/10/22 03:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.
    Hi Thomas

    been using Thunderbird for years and years ATM 10.4.0
    never had any issues

    Debian on a ACERĀ  Veriton/I7 with 8GB RAM

    most of the tiume through SSH X session

    would help maybe to give details of your setup, as it could be hardware related issue at your end. example RAM

    102.4.0 typo
    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to moussa on Wed Nov 9 11:24:50 2022
    On 09.11.2022 6:53, moussa wrote:
    On 9/11/22 13:52, moussa wrote:
    On 18/10/22 03:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.
    Hi Thomas

    been using Thunderbird for years and years ATM 10.4.0
    never had any issues

    Debian on a ACERĀ  Veriton/I7 with 8GB RAM

    most of the tiume through SSH X session

    would help maybe to give details of your setup, as it could be
    hardware related issue at your end. example RAM

    102.4.0 typo

    Hi, It's not a hardware issue. I was able to replicate it on two
    different and otherwise perfectly stable machines. Louis also reported
    having the same problem.

    The crash only occurs when sending an NNTP message from one of the 102
    builds. The application is stable aside from that - it never even once
    crashed when sending a classic email over SMTP. The 91 branch doesn't
    have the same problem (I have now reverted to the latest 91 build).

    Why it worked a few sometimes and then started crashing again? Idk, but behavior like that is typical for buffer overflows and similar problems.

    I have posted this before, but for completeness' sake, here is some info
    about my setup:

    Thunderbird 102.3.3, 102.4.2, and other 64-bit Windows builds from the
    102 range. Windows 10 21H2 64-bit, version 10.0.19044.2130.

    I'm using exactly the same settings for 91 and 102. It happens even with
    all extensions disabled. And with both Kev's CSIPH server and Eternal September. And both when starting a new thread
    or replying to an existing message.

    It may be Windows-exclusive, but I saw a similar report on the Debian or
    ubuntu mailing list.

    I'm not a fan of the Bugzilla bug tracker but looks like I'll have to
    shift through it and create a ticket manually. The submitted crash dumps
    went seemingly nowhere. I'm not complaining, they are probably busy with
    more important bugs... since TB is primarily an email client rather than
    a news reader.

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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 10 10:08:33 2022
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to moussa on Thu Nov 10 11:45:02 2022
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend to do
    a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test it there.

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  • From Kevin Bowling@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Nov 13 12:00:00 2022
    On 10/17/22 12:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    Sendt from Thuderbird 102.3.3.
    Test

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Feb 1 10:28:55 2023
    On 10-11-2022 11:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend to do a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test it there.

    Hi Tomas,

    Any news yet?

    (still stuck on 91.11.0 (64-bit))

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to JWR on Wed Feb 1 20:43:13 2023
    On 01.02.2023 10:28, JWR wrote:
    On 10-11-2022 11:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend to
    do a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test it there.

    Hi Tomas,

    Any news yet?

    (still stuck on 91.11.0 (64-bit))


    Good question!

    I'll check the changelogs and give the 102 branch another try this
    weekend...

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Feb 1 20:51:26 2023
    On 01-02-2023 20:43, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 01.02.2023 10:28, JWR wrote:
    On 10-11-2022 11:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend to do a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test it there.

    Hi Tomas,

    Any news yet?

    (still stuck on 91.11.0 (64-bit))


    Good question!

    I'll check the changelogs and give the 102 branch another try this weekend...

    No hurry, TB 91 still works (on Linux anyway).

    Referring to Moussa's hint: aioe.org is down. Has been for a while already. No idea why or what happened there. Used it for years without problems and very little downtime.

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to JWR on Mon May 13 10:46:35 2024
    On 01-02-2023 20:51, JWR wrote:
    On 01-02-2023 20:43, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 01.02.2023 10:28, JWR wrote:
    On 10-11-2022 11:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend to do a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test it there.

    Hi Tomas,

    Any news yet?

    (still stuck on 91.11.0 (64-bit))


    Good question!

    I'll check the changelogs and give the 102 branch another try this weekend...

    No hurry, TB 91 still works (on Linux anyway).

    Referring to Moussa's hint: aioe.org is down. Has been for a while already. No idea why or what happened there. Used it for years without problems and very little downtime.


    Took a big step: jumped from 91.11.0 to 115.10.1 (64-bit, Linux)
    So far no issues.

    Not really fond of the new look and feel, but maybe I can tweak it a bit font-wise.

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From MEK@21:1/5 to JWR on Tue May 14 11:37:20 2024
    On 13/5/24 16:46, JWR wrote:
    On 01-02-2023 20:51, JWR wrote:
    On 01-02-2023 20:43, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 01.02.2023 10:28, JWR wrote:
    On 10-11-2022 11:45, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On 10.11.2022 3:08, moussa wrote:
    a shot in the dark

    can you change server to aioe.org

    AFAIR no need for user name or password

    and try again

    I'm not gonna update to 102 again just to test this, but I intend
    to do a clean install on one of my other machines... so I'll test
    it there.

    Hi Tomas,

    Any news yet?

    (still stuck on 91.11.0 (64-bit))


    Good question!

    I'll check the changelogs and give the 102 branch another try this
    weekend...

    No hurry, TB 91 still works (on Linux anyway).

    Referring to Moussa's hint: aioe.org is down. Has been for a while
    already. No idea why or what happened there. Used it for years without
    problems and very little downtime.


    Took a big step: jumped from 91.11.0 to 115.10.1 (64-bit, Linux)
    So far no issues.

    Not really fond of the new look and feel, but maybe I can tweak it a bit font-wise.

    I use dark theme seems to go easier on my eyes, same vintage

    --
    Moussa

    "People alike with a similar circumstances, tend to find each
    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
    *** Do Not Copy, Duplicate or Use without my Permission ***

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