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  • Microelectronics Packaging Handbook

    From Kevin Bowling@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 10 22:36:16 2022
    https://archive.org/details/microelectronics0000unse_e6j1/page/1060/mode/2up some coverage of the model 60 packaging

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Kevin Bowling on Sun Sep 11 07:30:18 2022
    Memory on Planar - SIPs ?

    Kevin Bowling wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/microelectronics0000unse_e6j1/page/1060/mode/2up some coverage of the model 60 packaging

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Sep 11 08:15:02 2022
    On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 2:29:51 PM UTC+2, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Memory on Planar - SIPs ?
    Kevin Bowling wrote:
    https://archive.org/details/microelectronics0000unse_e6j1/page/1060/mode/2up
    some coverage of the model 60 packaging

    I was thinking that maybe some early planars used SIPs, but I think I can just make out the SIMM latches on the photo. But it's hard to tell.

    Anyway, it has a few interesting tidbits. A bipolar VLSI (72X7385), huh? That's a bit surprising, but it explains the voltage reg. transistor...

    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Sep 11 10:48:54 2022
    Tom, there is a workaround, but it involves registries in T-bird (?) and
    IIRC re-installation.

    That's why I wendt with Sea Monkey. I think T-Bird is better (better
    control of attached images, for one). Whatever...

    They do know of the bug...

    Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Sun Sep 11 10:21:40 2022
    On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 5:48:27 PM UTC+2, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Tom, there is a workaround, but it involves registries in T-bird (?) and
    IIRC re-installation.

    That's why I wendt with Sea Monkey. I think T-Bird is better (better
    control of attached images, for one). Whatever...

    They do know of the bug...
    Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.

    Link? I can't find it on Bugzilla. I can see it being mentioned on the debian mailing list, but that's about it. It crashes somewhere in xul.dll, but I don't have the symbols for it so dunno what exactly is going on.

    Meh, I gtg...

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Sep 11 21:15:35 2022
    On 11-09-2022 17:15, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:

    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.

    What version are you on? I'm on 91.11.0 (64-bit) on Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon which is afaik the current version for this OS.

    No issues so far, but maybe I should stick to this version for the time being?

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to JWR on Sun Sep 11 13:59:23 2022
    On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 9:15:37 PM UTC+2, JWR wrote:
    On 11-09-2022 17:15, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:

    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.
    What version are you on? I'm on 91.11.0 (64-bit) on Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon which is afaik the current version for this OS.

    No issues so far, but maybe I should stick to this version for the time being?

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

    I'm on 102.2.2 (64-bit, Windows) now. I had some 91.x.x version before - probably the latest minor build. All builds from the 102 range may be affected. And based on the ubuntu mailing list, it appears to be a multiplatform issue too.

    I'd recommend staying on 91.x.x until we learn more about the issue.

    (And ofc I had to type this twice because I tried sending it from Thunderbird first, without even thinking about it...)

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Sun Sep 11 14:14:16 2022
    On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 10:59:24 PM UTC+2, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    I'm on 102.2.2 (64-bit, Windows) now. I had some 91.x.x version before - probably the latest minor build. All builds from the 102 range may be affected. And based on the ubuntu mailing list, it appears to be a multiplatform issue too.

    I'd recommend staying on 91.x.x until we learn more about the issue.

    (And ofc I had to type this twice because I tried sending it from Thunderbird first, without even thinking about it...)

    I don't know why they started auto-updating users to 102.x.x while the branch clearly far from stable.

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  • From JWR@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Mon Sep 12 10:00:06 2022
    On 11-09-2022 22:59, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    On Sunday, September 11, 2022 at 9:15:37 PM UTC+2, JWR wrote:
    On 11-09-2022 17:15, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:

    @Louis: Welp, Thunderbird now crashes for me as well whenever I try to send a newsgroup post. Started with the last update.
    What version are you on? I'm on 91.11.0 (64-bit) on Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon which is afaik the current version for this OS.

    No issues so far, but maybe I should stick to this version for the time being?

    --
    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

    I'm on 102.2.2 (64-bit, Windows) now. I had some 91.x.x version before - probably the latest minor build. All builds from the 102 range may be affected. And based on the ubuntu mailing list, it appears to be a multiplatform issue too.

    I'd recommend staying on 91.x.x until we learn more about the issue.

    (And ofc I had to type this twice because I tried sending it from Thunderbird first, without even thinking about it...)

    Thanks Tom, I've blocked updates for TB for the time being. Keep us posted on developments, please.

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    Jelte,
    Admirer of the letter of IBM with blue Ishiki

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