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  • Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-386 Vintage Computer RARE Personal System

    From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 7 17:50:32 2022
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/165661596923

    Type 0 complex (w/ cache)
    Long 16/4 Token Ring adapter
    Spock (the old single oscillator version it seems)

    Single memory riser, no air baffle, no fan - all normal for the special
    bid XP 386 models.

    The SCSI adapter is not seated correctly, which may be the reason for
    the I9990022 "IML not found error". (Not sure if it has a hard drive...)

    Bay A and B bezels are slightly less yellowed than the rest of the
    machine. But looks clean otherwise...

    Bids only. No affiliation.

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Sep 7 13:44:14 2022
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:50:34 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/165661596923

    Type 0 complex (w/ cache)
    Long 16/4 Token Ring adapter
    Spock (the old single oscillator version it seems)

    Single memory riser, no air baffle, no fan - all normal for the special
    bid XP 386 models.

    The SCSI adapter is not seated correctly, which may be the reason for
    the I9990022 "IML not found error". (Not sure if it has a hard drive...)

    Bay A and B bezels are slightly less yellowed than the rest of the
    machine. But looks clean otherwise...

    Bids only. No affiliation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Wed Sep 7 13:43:58 2022
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:50:34 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/165661596923

    Type 0 complex (w/ cache)
    Long 16/4 Token Ring adapter
    Spock (the old single oscillator version it seems)

    Single memory riser, no air baffle, no fan - all normal for the special
    bid XP 386 models.

    The SCSI adapter is not seated correctly, which may be the reason for
    the I9990022 "IML not found error". (Not sure if it has a hard drive...)

    Bay A and B bezels are slightly less yellowed than the rest of the
    machine. But looks clean otherwise...

    Bids only. No affiliation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to richard smice on Wed Sep 7 14:06:13 2022
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 4:43:58 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:50:34 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/165661596923

    Type 0 complex (w/ cache)
    Long 16/4 Token Ring adapter
    Spock (the old single oscillator version it seems)

    Single memory riser, no air baffle, no fan - all normal for the special
    bid XP 386 models.

    The SCSI adapter is not seated correctly, which may be the reason for
    the I9990022 "IML not found error". (Not sure if it has a hard drive...)

    Bay A and B bezels are slightly less yellowed than the rest of the
    machine. But looks clean otherwise...

    Bids only. No affiliation.
    A lot of these were sold to MCI World Com; when they were on top of the world.. Just a basic low end network machine. I got a truck load of them before world com
    fell to the wolves.. None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..
    But still they are unique as they were 386's Rare for model 90's with the 386 logo on the cover.
    In the basement of their headquarters in Chicago there were rooms full of them .
    along with monitors and keyboards mice. etc. No clones allowed..all had xga monitors though. blue label
    I pulled a about 50+ ... 95 servers as well. Most of them I have scrapped out.

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to richard smice on Thu Sep 8 01:47:22 2022
    Yea, looks like IBM sold a lot of these to WorldCom, Aetna, Royal Bank
    and possibly some other big names...

    Interesting, so they all had just the SCSI adapter and complex? No
    network adapters or mainframe connectivity of any kind?

    On 07.09.2022 23:06, richard smice wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 4:43:58 PM UTC-4, richard smice wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:50:34 AM UTC-4, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/165661596923

    Type 0 complex (w/ cache)
    Long 16/4 Token Ring adapter
    Spock (the old single oscillator version it seems)

    Single memory riser, no air baffle, no fan - all normal for the special
    bid XP 386 models.

    The SCSI adapter is not seated correctly, which may be the reason for
    the I9990022 "IML not found error". (Not sure if it has a hard drive...) >>>
    Bay A and B bezels are slightly less yellowed than the rest of the
    machine. But looks clean otherwise...

    Bids only. No affiliation.
    A lot of these were sold to MCI World Com; when they were on top of the world..
    Just a basic low end network machine. I got a truck load of them before world com
    fell to the wolves.. None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..
    But still they are unique as they were 386's Rare for model 90's with the 386 logo on the cover.
    In the basement of their headquarters in Chicago there were rooms full of them .
    along with monitors and keyboards mice. etc. No clones allowed..all had xga monitors though. blue label
    I pulled a about 50+ ... 95 servers as well. Most of them I have scrapped out.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 8 06:51:38 2022
    Loaded? Like staggering out of the bar?

    It would be odd to findt a -402 with more than 8MB in one riser.

    Makes me wonder. If they had Rolmphones on a CBX, they wouldn't need a
    network. Since I've never seen a 244 or ANY Rolmphone, I dinna ken.

    Industrial Dave wrote:> None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..

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  • From richard smice@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Thu Sep 8 16:31:13 2022
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 7:51:18 AM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Loaded? Like staggering out of the bar?

    It would be odd to findt a -402 with more than 8MB in one riser.

    Makes me wonder. If they had Rolmphones on a CBX, they wouldn't need a network. Since I've never seen a 244 or ANY Rolmphone, I dinna ken.

    Industrial Dave wrote:> None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..
    Lorenzo Malicone had weitek coprocessor. In one of these and he had sent me benchmark tests..results
    It would squack like a chicken with it up and running right...
    Has anyone heard from him lately ?

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to richard smice on Fri Sep 9 16:04:53 2022
    https://ardent-tool.com/90/Model_90_T0.html

    And yep, Lor is still around...

    On 09.09.2022 1:31, richard smice wrote:
    On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 7:51:18 AM UTC-4, Louis Ohland wrote:
    Loaded? Like staggering out of the bar?

    It would be odd to findt a -402 with more than 8MB in one riser.

    Makes me wonder. If they had Rolmphones on a CBX, they wouldn't need a
    network. Since I've never seen a 244 or ANY Rolmphone, I dinna ken.

    Industrial Dave wrote:> None of them was ever loaded with memory or any
    upgrades..
    Lorenzo Malicone had weitek coprocessor. In one of these and he had sent me benchmark tests..results
    It would squack like a chicken with it up and running right...
    Has anyone heard from him lately ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to Some broken down drunk on Fri Sep 9 09:21:26 2022
    ID, was that "loaded" as in -NO- memory, or was that "loaded" as in BOTH
    risers filled?

    The Type 0 has an odd quirk where it supports 4x 2MB 80nS FPM on -only-
    J11 (riser closest to Complex). Oddly, the BIOS clearly identifies all 8
    SIMM sockets. I wish it would support BOTH J11 and J14, then we would
    have 16 screaming Mega Bytes. Get rid of the memory expansion adapters.

    Some broken down drunk wrote:
    It would be odd to findt a -402 with more than 8MB in one riser.

    Industrial Dave wrote:
    None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Fri Sep 9 16:52:38 2022
    That's a limitation of the used memory controller most likely. The Type
    0 boards use the same support logic as the M70/P70 Type 2 planars. So, 4
    slots, 2MB SIMMs max, and fixed timing (afaik)...

    I'll have to get myself one of these puppies and verify all this
    (together with the ROM-based Stage 2 POST).

    It can still read the PD values for all 8 slots because that info is
    accessed through the channel/planar I/O bus, rather than the memory
    interface.

    On 09.09.2022 16:21, Louis Ohland wrote:
    ID, was that "loaded" as in -NO- memory, or was that "loaded" as in BOTH risers filled?

    The Type 0 has an odd quirk where it supports 4x 2MB 80nS FPM on -only-
    J11 (riser closest to Complex). Oddly, the BIOS clearly identifies all 8
    SIMM sockets. I wish it would support BOTH J11 and J14, then we would
    have 16 screaming Mega Bytes. Get rid of the memory expansion adapters.

    Some broken down drunk wrote:
    It would be odd to findt a -402 with more than 8MB in one riser.

    Industrial Dave wrote:
    None of them was ever loaded with memory or any upgrades..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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