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  • Auction: IBM PS/2 Model 90 XP-486 Vintage Computer Working RARE Persona

    From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 28 12:58:18 2022
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335

    Santa Rosa, California,

    No complex. No floppy.

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  • From schimmi@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Mon Aug 29 12:18:08 2022
    no ram.

    creative definition of 'working'. :D

    Louis Ohland schrieb am Sonntag, 28. August 2022 um 19:58:21 UTC+2:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335

    Santa Rosa, California,

    No complex. No floppy.

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  • From Louis Ohland@21:1/5 to schimmi on Mon Aug 29 17:18:15 2022
    No memory riser bracket, either.

    schimmi wrote:
    no ram.

    creative definition of 'working'. :D

    Louis Ohland schrieb am Sonntag, 28. August 2022 um 19:58:21 UTC+2:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335

    Santa Rosa, California,

    No complex. No floppy.

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  • From moussa@21:1/5 to Louis Ohland on Tue Aug 30 10:46:51 2022
    On 29/8/22 01:58, Louis Ohland wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/175392765335

     Santa Rosa, California,

    No complex. No floppy.
    *rare* indeed

    --
    Moussa

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    others across space and time, given enough time in life, no
    matter distance, language, race, colour and believes" (c) MEK
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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 30 13:36:53 2022
    Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:

    no ram.
    creative definition of 'working'. :D

    Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
    condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
    stand-alone.
    If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
    motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.

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  • From Tomas Slavotinek@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Aug 30 14:20:15 2022
    A computer unit sold as "working" should have all critical parts inside
    imo. If not, the description should mention what is missing. The seller acknowledges that the FDD and HDD aren't there but completely ignores
    that the entire processor complex is missing and that there is no memory
    either (ignoring the other non-critical parts). If the seller can't test
    the unit properly, they shouldn't be selling it as "working".

    To your CPU analogy... If you are selling a processor as "working", it
    should be complete (i.e. no missing non-redundant pins) and be in a
    condition good enough to at least make it through the POST. Of course
    you don't expect it to come with a motherboard if the item sold is just
    a CPU. Equally, I don't expect this Model 90 to come with peripherals
    like the power cord, keyboard and monitor...

    But at least this seller has some good photos there - so a person
    knowledgeable about these systems can figure out what is missing.

    On 30.08.2022 13:36, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:

    no ram.
    creative definition of 'working'. :D

    Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
    condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
    stand-alone.
    If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
    motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.


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  • From schimmi@21:1/5 to Tomas Slavotinek on Tue Aug 30 12:20:38 2022
    Yes, I've meant the unit as it was simply offered. Following the analogy to a cpu (as a unit) - it would mean you get something with missing pins, caps etc. - it does work, because it gets warm.
    It was sold for $119 - that's totally fine for what it is: a parts machine, so no offense :)

    Tomas Slavotinek schrieb am Dienstag, 30. August 2022 um 14:20:18 UTC+2:
    A computer unit sold as "working" should have all critical parts inside
    imo. If not, the description should mention what is missing. The seller acknowledges that the FDD and HDD aren't there but completely ignores
    that the entire processor complex is missing and that there is no memory either (ignoring the other non-critical parts). If the seller can't test
    the unit properly, they shouldn't be selling it as "working".

    To your CPU analogy... If you are selling a processor as "working", it
    should be complete (i.e. no missing non-redundant pins) and be in a
    condition good enough to at least make it through the POST. Of course
    you don't expect it to come with a motherboard if the item sold is just
    a CPU. Equally, I don't expect this Model 90 to come with peripherals
    like the power cord, keyboard and monitor...

    But at least this seller has some good photos there - so a person knowledgeable about these systems can figure out what is missing.
    On 30.08.2022 13:36, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am Montag, 29. August 2022, um 12:18:08 Uhr schrieb schimmi:

    no ram.
    creative definition of 'working'. :D

    Working normally means that the things you sell are in working
    condition, it doesn't mean that the things you're selling work
    stand-alone.
    If somebody sells a processor, it is also useless without a
    motherboard, a power supply and even a monitor.


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