• Re: Security comments, response to <[email protected]>

    From KP KP@21:1/5 to Dewey Henize on Sun Aug 14 12:44:20 2022
    On Monday, November 28, 1988 at 10:14:49 AM UTC-8, Dewey Henize wrote:
    I have tried several times to mail this to sswat, but it appears it isn't possible to get mail from here to there. My apologies in advance to those that are bored with the subject, please feel free to hit 'n' now. Following is the text of a letter I attempted several times to get to him. -------------------

    Allow me to congratulate you, please, on an EXCELLENT article. You hit a great many points, and I felt you handled them particularly well. Thank
    you.
    May I please note, as the one who first suggested that Morris (or whoever
    the clown releasing the worm was) have the [I believe my words were] shit beat out of him, that I DO NOT and never did advocate that as a simple and final solution. It has been portrayed that way, and a great deal of the
    other comments since have seemed to take the dichotomous stands you describe, yet I feel and believe most other serious people feel that a combination
    of solutions are necessary. I still feel that a message should be sent that its not ok to trash other peoples property to prove you can. I also feel
    that each site has responsibilities to do the best that they are capable of doing to limit unauthorized access; and I feel that in that regard the current world we live in is being let down by many, if not all of the vendors. And so on.
    I do like the idea of 'licensed' crackers. This would imply a bit of real expertise AND accountability. I've seen a lot posted of late that would
    imply all too many people are ready to set themselves up as the judge of
    my systems and rampage and destroy just to 'make me aware it can be done'. Well, I'm aware already, and I would welcome constructive criticisms from
    any reasonable sources, as I always have. Or, heck, I'd be more than
    glad to have free labor do much of the grunt work I do already in my
    usual 70+ hour week. I don't have that luxury, though... Yet, if I knew
    that people who were responsible and mature (regardless of calendar age)
    were making a best effort to detect areas that I could be reasonably asked
    to handle and would let me know the results in ways that didn't trash everything, I'd be extremely supportive.
    Anyway, I've taken enough of your time. Thanks for reading this far. Again, let me thank you for a really good article with a lot of good information
    in it. I hope it's recieved as well and widespread as it should be.
    Dewey Henize
    Execucom Systems Corp
    512-346-4980
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    Thanks to you.

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  • From Thomas Bruce@21:1/5 to KP KP on Tue Nov 1 03:34:31 2022
    On Sunday, 14 August 2022 at 12:44:21 UTC-7, KP KP wrote:
    On Monday, November 28, 1988 at 10:14:49 AM UTC-8, Dewey Henize wrote:
    I have tried several times to mail this to sswat, but it appears it isn't possible to get mail from here to there. My apologies in advance to those that are bored with the subject, please feel free to hit 'n' now. Following
    is the text of a letter I attempted several times to get to him. -------------------

    Allow me to congratulate you, please, on an EXCELLENT article. You hit a great many points, and I felt you handled them particularly well. Thank you.
    May I please note, as the one who first suggested that Morris (or whoever the clown releasing the worm was) have the [I believe my words were] shit beat out of him, that I DO NOT and never did advocate that as a simple and final solution. It has been portrayed that way, and a great deal of the other comments since have seemed to take the dichotomous stands you describe,
    yet I feel and believe most other serious people feel that a combination of solutions are necessary. I still feel that a message should be sent that
    its not ok to trash other peoples property to prove you can. I also feel that each site has responsibilities to do the best that they are capable of
    doing to limit unauthorized access; and I feel that in that regard the current world we live in is being let down by many, if not all of the vendors. And so on.
    I do like the idea of 'licensed' crackers. This would imply a bit of real expertise AND accountability. I've seen a lot posted of late that would imply all too many people are ready to set themselves up as the judge of my systems and rampage and destroy just to 'make me aware it can be done'. Well, I'm aware already, and I would welcome constructive criticisms from any reasonable sources, as I always have. Or, heck, I'd be more than
    glad to have free labor do much of the grunt work I do already in my
    usual 70+ hour week. I don't have that luxury, though... Yet, if I knew that people who were responsible and mature (regardless of calendar age) were making a best effort to detect areas that I could be reasonably asked to handle and would let me know the results in ways that didn't trash everything, I'd be extremely supportive.
    Anyway, I've taken enough of your time. Thanks for reading this far. Again,
    let me thank you for a really good article with a lot of good information in it. I hope it's recieved as well and widespread as it should be.
    Dewey Henize
    Execucom Systems Corp
    512-346-4980
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    | execu!dewey Dewey Henize |
    | Can you say standard disclaimer? I knew you could. Somehow... |
    Thanks to you.



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