On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was
a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through
the entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about
ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's
this sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an
inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good
person, it's about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon
release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not
remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the
industry, but their frantic pace of development has at times meant
harm to consumers.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon
release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not remotely
on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the industry, but
their frantic pace of development has at times meant harm to consumers.
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was a
guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about ethics
and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of
thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at >Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's about
delivering something worthwhile too.
Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was a
guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about ethics
and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of
thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's about
delivering something worthwhile too.
Everyone has ethics, at a personal level. However, when considering
only the behavior of the company, only management is responsible for
that. The same for quality. You don't blame Bubba on the assembly
line for that missing component.
Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was a
guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about ethics
and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of
thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's about
delivering something worthwhile too.
Everyone has ethics, at a personal level. However, when considering
only the behavior of the company, only management is responsible for
that. The same for quality. You don't blame Bubba on the assembly
line for that missing component.
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
I grew up on the NeXT computer, which had everything and the kitchen
sink included with it. Microsoft is trying to feed me an incomplete OS.
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
Lane the Caustic wrote:
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
Lane the Caustic wrote:
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
On 8/14/25 7:59 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even >>>> pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party
to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing
software for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
LO exists because OO got taken in the wrong direction, so LO is the one
to use today. You may want something more like Word that isn't Word,
but if so, start coding*. Frankly I don't know what you think would be
so great about that, LO Writer works as it is, free to download.
* There is this, though: https://www.wps.com/
Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word ...
Lane the Caustic wrote:
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't
even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party
to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing software
for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:59:12 -0500, Lane the Caustic <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't
even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party
to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing software
for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:59:12 -0500, Lane the Caustic <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't
even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party
to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing software
for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:59:12 -0500, Lane the CausticI'm pretty sure that's obsolete.
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better >>>>> have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't
even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party
to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing
software for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU
MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.
I'm pretty sure [WordPerfect]'s obsolete.
chrisv <[email protected]d> wrote
Lane the Caustic wrote:
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even >>>pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
I was going to ask him if he'd tried LibreOffice...
Of course, if you want professional typesetting, it's time
for LaTeX ... or even a groff macro package.
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Did you even read what I wrote? If I live for 30 more yrs, then Word is >going to cost me $2100. Isn't that too high in your consideration?
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS
office substitute", that's their problem.
I'm not here to get free software, I'm here to pay a reasonable price
for what I consider to be the best word processor available.
On 8/15/25 4:48 PM, chrisv wrote:
A quick google also found this, which I'd not heard of before.
https://www.freeoffice.com/en/features/freeoffice
Thanks! I hadn't known of this, either.
Well, life's a bitch, sometimes. Word processing software is a very
mature technology. Free versions are plenty good for most. To my
knowledge, only one payware product remains. So if you want that, you
pay the asking price.
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was a
guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about ethics
and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of
thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's about
delivering something worthwhile too.
Everyone has ethics, at a personal level. However, when considering
only the behavior of the company, only management is responsible for
that. The same for quality. You don't blame Bubba on the assembly
line for that missing component.
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 01:26:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
Office 2024 is around $150 the last time I saw it. ...
Life is good.
Particularly if you lie and claim to be a student or something. Then you
can get discounts on proprietary software that you’re not entitled to.
Office 2024 is around $150 the last time I saw it. ...
Life is good.
$50 for Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, Publisher, OneNote
and Access is an incredible bargain. That is $6.25 each. As close to
free as you can get.
Did you bother to go to the link and check the prices?
$50 for Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, Publisher, OneNote and Access >is an incredible bargain.
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.I'm pretty sure that's obsolete.
Look it up on Amazon.
On Aug 14, 2025 at 9:14:43 AM EDT, "Lane the Caustic" <[email protected]> wrote:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was a >>>> guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about ethics >>>> and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of >>>> thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's about
delivering something worthwhile too.
Everyone has ethics, at a personal level. However, when considering
only the behavior of the company, only management is responsible for
that. The same for quality. You don't blame Bubba on the assembly
line for that missing component.
have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr
extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't even
pay for it once and have the expense go away.
You can buy Office 2021 Professional for $50. Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, Publisher, OneNote, Access. That's what I did in 2023. I don't want to rent software by the year either.
Office 2024 is around $150 the last time I saw it. Windows 11 is $15 now but has gone down to $10 several times. deals.bleepingcomputer.com. Yes it is all legit. All you buy is the license key and then DL the ISO image from Microsoft.
In fact, I bought Windows 11 Arm, Office 2021 for Windows and Office 2021 for Mac for $125 in 2023. All running (and updating) just fine on this Mac. Windows Arm is running in VMware Fusion which is also free.
Life is good.
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy
software. for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of
everything.
Who are you calling human?
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 21:36:41 -0500, Lane the Caustic <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:59:12 -0500, Lane the CausticI'm pretty sure that's obsolete.
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better >>>>>> have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr >>>>>> extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't >>>>>> even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS >>>>> office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a
vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party >>>> to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing
software for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU
MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.
Look it up on Amazon.
(I have no dog in this race, though, as I'm perfectly
happy with LibreOffice, as well as groff.)
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:49:20 +0000, jojo wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
I may have skated around the edges of using GPLd libraries in commercial applications but I don't recall ever pirating software. No high moral
ground, I just never needed to.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:49:20 +0000, jojo wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
I may have skated around the edges of using GPLd libraries in commercial applications but I don't recall ever pirating software. No high moral
ground, I just never needed to.
On 16 Aug 2025 22:42:46 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:49:20 +0000, jojo wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
I may have skated around the edges of using GPLd libraries in commercial
applications but I don't recall ever pirating software. No high moral
ground, I just never needed to.
My Subaru's Nav unit includes GPL'ed software -- there's a place in
the menus that displays licences, and where to go if you want the
source to the libraries they use.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
jojo wrote:
Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:so is your head
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you
need,
because you won’t have much left over.
mac is like putting all your eggs on an incline.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
On 16 Aug 2025 22:42:46 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:49:20 +0000, jojo wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy
software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
I may have skated around the edges of using GPLd libraries in
commercial applications but I don't recall ever pirating software. No
high moral ground, I just never needed to.
My Subaru's Nav unit includes GPL'ed software -- there's a place in the
menus that displays licences, and where to go if you want the source to
the libraries they use.
BTW, STFU. This is my group now and you haven't shown any good reason
to be here.
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]>
wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on >> /dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
On 16 Aug 2025 22:42:46 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 14:49:20 +0000, jojo wrote:
i think once a person earns over 100,000 a year, they can buy software.
for the rest of us humans its pirated versions of everything.
I may have skated around the edges of using GPLd libraries in commercial
applications but I don't recall ever pirating software. No high moral
ground, I just never needed to.
My Subaru's Nav unit includes GPL'ed software -- there's a place in
the menus that displays licences, and where to go if you want the
source to the libraries they use.
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 00:24:39 -0500, Lane the Caustic wrote:
BTW, STFU. This is my group now and you haven't shown any good reason
to be here.
New nym, Larry? Buh-bye.
vallor wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
so you are rich..
what would you say is the most expensive thing
you own, apart from property and financial assets?
smart is not always equal to rich, i am a poor smart person..
well not poor exactly, its complicated.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr �n!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you?ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need,
because you won?t have much left over.
On 8/18/25 7:40 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you
need,
because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
And you better decide up front how much you’re going to need,
because it’s
not upgradeable afterwards.
Yup, Apple can blow me.
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 19:20:49 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
so you are rich..
I didn't say that.
what would you say is the most expensive thing
you own, apart from property and financial assets?
That's a rather personal question, don't you think?
smart is not always equal to rich, i am a poor smart person..
well not poor exactly, its complicated.
You're not poor if get 3 squares a day, have a roof over your head,
and can post on Usenet all day.
ObLinux: Does a Linux workstation count as "property", in the context
of your question?
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was
a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through the
entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about
ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this
sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior
product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's
about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon
release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not remotely
on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the industry, but
their frantic pace of development has at times meant harm to consumers.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was
a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through
the entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about
ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's
this sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an
inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good
person, it's about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon
release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not
remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the
industry, but their frantic pace of development has at times meant
harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there was
a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept through
the entire thing. This school I once asked one of the teacher about
ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer scientist. It's
this sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an
inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good
person, it's about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon
release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not
remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the
industry, but their frantic pace of development has at times meant
harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
x-no-archive: yes
On 8/18/2025 11:51 AM, vallor wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
Doesn't it embarrass you to be so predictable? Like a cartoon.
Linuxz has even more bugs and critters but the hackers know all the
bozos who use Linux don't have a plug nickle to their name so that's
the reason Linux never getZ hacked.
The winodws LTSC IOT windows 10 version updates on newer computers
but not on older ones. It downloads the updates but goes into error installing them.
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche. LMAO!
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there >>>>>>> was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept >>>>>>> through the entire thing. This school I once asked one of the >>>>>>> teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer >>>>>>> scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics >>>>>>> has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about >>>>>>> being a good person, it's about delivering something worthwhile
too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon >>>>>> release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not
remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the >>>>>> industry, but their frantic pace of development has at times meant >>>>>> harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux for an >>>> extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public beta test.
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg in
the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until their
brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux shit and
tell everyone who great it is after their brain shortcircuited.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote
in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day
there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, >>>>>>>> I slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked >>>>>>>> one of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none.Â
He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I
think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's
about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable
upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an
overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this
problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the
best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux
for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public
beta test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg
in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my
news servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote inOnly fags use line-sux and apples.
<clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day
there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, >>>>>>>>> I slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked one >>>>>>>>> of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a >>>>>>>>> computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a >>>>>>>>> lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. >>>>>>>>> It's not just about being a good person, it's about delivering >>>>>>>>> something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an
overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this
problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best >>>>>>>> minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of development has >>>>>>>> at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux for >>>>>> an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public beta >>>>>> test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg
in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than Sam
Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device, which
smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 23:29:53 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wroteOnly fags use line-sux and apples.
in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to
say, I slept through the entire thing. This school I once >>>>>>>>>> asked one of the teacher about ethics and he said he had
none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of
thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior >>>>>>>>>> product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good >>>>>>>>>> person, it's about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an
overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this
problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux
for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's
public beta test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square
peg in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long
until their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the
Linux shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
I know you can't eat apples -- would cause a problem
with your dentures.
On 8/20/25 7:29 PM, Brennus wrote:
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-increasing demands
on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime of the
device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price for Windows
Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically. Linux was
necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10 would've been
lame to still use.
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 23:29:53 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>Very lame and boring retort. You're boring. Go away.
wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wroteOnly fags use line-sux and apples.
in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I >>>>>>>>>>> slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked one >>>>>>>>>>> of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a >>>>>>>>>>> computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a >>>>>>>>>>> lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. >>>>>>>>>>> It's not just about being a good person, it's about delivering >>>>>>>>>>> something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an >>>>>>>>>> overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this >>>>>>>>>> problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux >>>>>>>> for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public >>>>>>>> beta test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg >>>>> in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than Sam
Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
I know you can't eat apples -- would cause a problem with your
dentures.
Brennus wrote:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 23:29:53 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>Very lame and boring retort. You're boring. Go away.
wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote >>>>> in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:Only fags use line-sux and apples.
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche. >>>>>>>> LMAO!
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to >>>>>>>>>>>> say, I slept through the entire thing. This school I once >>>>>>>>>>>> asked one of the teacher about ethics and he said he had >>>>>>>>>>>> none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of >>>>>>>>>>>> thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior >>>>>>>>>>>> product at Microsoft. It's not just about being a good >>>>>>>>>>>> person, it's about delivering something worthwhile too. >>>>>>>>>>>It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an >>>>>>>>>>> overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this >>>>>>>>>>> problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux >>>>>>>>> for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's
public beta test.
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square
peg in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long
until their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the >>>>>> Linux shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
I know you can't eat apples -- would cause a problem with your
dentures.
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how
that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-increasing
demands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime
of the device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price
for Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically.
Linux was necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10
would've been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:14:41 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 23:29:53 -0000 (UTC), BrennusVery lame and boring retort. You're boring. Go away.
<[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]>Only fags use line-sux and apples.
wrote in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche. >>>>>>>> LMAO!
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to >>>>>>>>>>>> say, I slept through the entire thing. This school I >>>>>>>>>>>> once asked one of the teacher about ethics and he said he >>>>>>>>>>>> had none. He's a computer scientist. It's this sort >>>>>>>>>>>> of thing that I think a lack of ethics has led to an
inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about >>>>>>>>>>>> being a good person, it's about delivering something
worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably
stable upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs,
requiring an overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux >>>>>>>>>>> never had this problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has >>>>>>>>>>> had some of the best minds in the industry, but their
frantic pace of development has at times meant harm to
consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used
Linux for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows
10's public beta test.
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square
peg in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long
until their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to
the Linux shit and tell everyone who great it is after their
brain shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
I know you can't eat apples -- would cause a problem with your
dentures.
Translation: You got pwned. Suck it, troll.
ObLinux:
TLDR-HS(1) User Commands TLDR-HS(1)
NAME
tldr-hs - manual page for tldr-hs 0.9.2
SYNOPSIS
tldr-hs [-v|--version]
DESCRIPTION
tldr - Simplified and community-driven man pages
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in news:oFtpQ.144113$[email protected]:
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:Show where I praised windows, dummy.
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how
that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-increasing
demands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime of
the device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price for
Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically. Linux
was necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10 would've
been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 02:04:47 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:oFtpQ.144113$[email protected]:
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:Show where I praised windows, dummy.
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how
that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-increasing >>>>> demands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime of >>>>> the device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price for
Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically. Linux
was necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10 would've
been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
You're running xnews, dumbass.
ObLinux (man, this is getting old):
# ethtool enp68s0f0np0
Settings for enp68s0f0np0:
Supported ports: [ TP ]
Supported link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
2500baseT/Full
5000baseT/Full
Supported pause frame use: Symmetric
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Supported FEC modes: Not reported
Advertised link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised FEC modes: Not reported
Speed: 10000Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Auto-negotiation: on
Port: Twisted Pair
PHYAD: 0
Transceiver: internal
MDI-X: Unknown
Supports Wake-on: umbg
Wake-on: g
Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
drv probe link
Link detected: yes
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
That's ethtool(8), handy for making sure your ethernet
is running at the speed you expect.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 02:04:47 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>increasing
wrote in <[email protected]>:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:oFtpQ.144113$[email protected]:
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how
that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-
ofdemands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime
Show where I praised windows, dummy.the device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price for
Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically. Linux
was necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10 would've
been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
You're running xnews, dumbass.
ObLinux (man, this is getting old):
# ethtool enp68s0f0np0
Settings for enp68s0f0np0:
Supported ports: [ TP ]
Supported link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
2500baseT/Full
5000baseT/Full
Supported pause frame use: Symmetric
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Supported FEC modes: Not reported
Advertised link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised FEC modes: Not reported
Speed: 10000Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Auto-negotiation: on
Port: Twisted Pair
PHYAD: 0
Transceiver: internal
MDI-X: Unknown
Supports Wake-on: umbg
Wake-on: g
Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
drv probe link
Link detected: yes
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
That's ethtool(8), handy for making sure your ethernet
is running at the speed you expect.
On 2025-08-21, vallor <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 02:04:47 -0000 (UTC), Brennus <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:oFtpQ.144113$[email protected]:
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:Show where I praised windows, dummy.
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize
how that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated,
ever-increasing demands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you
for the lifetime of the device, they don't care about you, I paid
the retail price for Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two
years, basically. Linux was necessary to feel OK, once Win11
outgrew me, and Win10 would've been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
You're running xnews, dumbass.
ObLinux (man, this is getting old):
# ethtool enp68s0f0np0
Settings for enp68s0f0np0:
Supported ports: [ TP ]
Supported link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
2500baseT/Full
5000baseT/Full
Supported pause frame use: Symmetric
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Supported FEC modes: Not reported
Advertised link modes: 100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
10000baseT/Full
Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised FEC modes: Not reported
Speed: 10000Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Auto-negotiation: on
Port: Twisted Pair
PHYAD: 0
Transceiver: internal
MDI-X: Unknown
Supports Wake-on: umbg
Wake-on: g
Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
drv probe link
Link detected: yes
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
That's ethtool(8), handy for making sure your ethernet
is running at the speed you expect.
Xnews despite being depreciated and not updated in years is actually
one of the better Windows newsreaders.
Fast, easily configurable, reliable,easy to use and so forth.
Unlike later versions of say Agent which are horrible with menu items scattered all over the place in illogical places. They ruined the
program in my opinion. Too complex. I'm an slrn fan so I have my own
bias of course.
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inyou always do because you don't have any , tornado tits
news:oFtpQ.144113$[email protected]:
On 8/20/25 8:15 PM, Brennus wrote:
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
You think it's hetero to run Winblows? Heh. You don't realize how
that plagues your computer with Microsoft's bloated, ever-increasing >>>>> demands on hardware, not genuinely supporting you for the lifetime
of the device, they don't care about you, I paid the retail price
for Windows Pro, $200, and it was good for two years, basically.
Linux was necessary to feel OK, once Win11 outgrew me, and Win10
would've been lame to still use.
I knew a guy in the Army named Crump. He wasn't a dummy like you,
though.
I'm the dummy but you're the one praising Windows over Linux? Heh.
Show where I praised windows, dummy.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche. LMAO! >>>>
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day there >>>>>>>> was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I slept >>>>>>>> through the entire thing. This school I once asked one of the >>>>>>>> teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a computer >>>>>>>> scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a lack of ethics >>>>>>>> has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. It's not just about >>>>>>>> being a good person, it's about delivering something worthwhile >>>>>>>> too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable upon >>>>>>> release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an overhaul
subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this problem, not
remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best minds in the >>>>>>> industry, but their frantic pace of development has at times meant >>>>>>> harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux for an >>>>> extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public beta test. >>>>>
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg in
the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until their
brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux shit and
tell everyone who great it is after their brain shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my
news servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
vallor <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote
in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.Â
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day
there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, >>>>>>>>> I slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked >>>>>>>>> one of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. >>>>>>>>> He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I >>>>>>>>> think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at
Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's >>>>>>>>> about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an
overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this
problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux
for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public
beta test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg
in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my
news servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
Only fags use line-sux and apples.
vallor wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote inIf you were smart you'd get off of that Linux shit because each use
<clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day
there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I >>>>>>>>> slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked one >>>>>>>>> of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a >>>>>>>>> computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a >>>>>>>>> lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. >>>>>>>>> It's not just about being a good person, it's about delivering >>>>>>>>> something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an
overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this
problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the best >>>>>>>> minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of development has >>>>>>>> at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux for >>>>>> an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public beta >>>>>> test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg
in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than Sam
Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device, which
smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
destroys like 10,000 once good braincells.
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:42:00 -0700, Janithor <[email protected]> wrote
in <10806n9$3c35i$[email protected]>:
x-no-archive: yes
On 8/18/2025 11:51 AM, vallor wrote:
On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:32:37 +0000, jojo <[email protected]> wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 14:10:33 -0400, "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote in <tWooQ.49296$[email protected]>:
On 8/16/25 11:20 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 19:48:34 +0100, Mr Ön!on wrote:
jojo <[email protected]> wrote:
do you have pirated software?
Whatever for? I have a Mac, it comes with everything I need.
After you’ve bought a Mac, it better come with everything you need, >>>>>>> because you won’t have much left over.
Not only in cash, but in SSD space! ;)
Dumb.
_[/Users/vallor]_(vallor@Mac-Studio)🍏_
$ df -h .
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on
/dev/disk3s5 926Gi 367Gi 528Gi 41% 2.0M 5.5G 0% /System/Volumes/Data
And backs up to a timecapsule on my Linux workstation.
_[/srv/Extreme_Pro]_(vallor@lm)🐧_
$ du -sh timemachine
592G timemachine
"She's fast enough for your old man." -Han Solo
are you very rich?
You don't have to be "rich" to buy a Mac. Where have you been?
And us? We're "comfortable", but I tend to give away the farm to
causes I believe in. Try:
https://aclu.org
https://au.org
https://amnesty.org
And for those about to hit the "flame" button -- you should _really_
get upset if I mention how many "blue billionaires" there are
in California.
So jojo: "If you're so smart, why ain't _you_ rich?"
Doesn't it embarrass you to be so predictable? Like a cartoon.
You must be one of those people getting really upset.
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:24:12 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote inbut we have all the kernels
<KKHpQ.10871$[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wroteIf you were smart you'd get off of that Linux shit because each use
in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche.
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, I >>>>>>>>>>> slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked one >>>>>>>>>>> of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. He's a >>>>>>>>>>> computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I think a >>>>>>>>>>> lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at Microsoft. >>>>>>>>>>> It's not just about being a good person, it's about delivering >>>>>>>>>>> something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an >>>>>>>>>> overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this >>>>>>>>>> problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux >>>>>>>> for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's public >>>>>>>> beta test.
LMAO!
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square peg >>>>> in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long until
their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the Linux
shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than Sam
Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
destroys like 10,000 once good braincells.
That's what the blue meanies want you to think.
ObLinux:
$ lscpu Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Address sizes:
43 bits physical, 48 bits virtual Byte Order: Little
Endian
CPU(s): 64
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-63
Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Model name: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core
Processor
CPU family: 23 Model: 49 Thread(s)
per core: 2 Core(s) per socket: 32
[...]
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 11:02:12 -0700, % <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 12:24:12 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrotebut we have all the kernels
in <KKHpQ.10871$[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 14:19:53 -0400, Tony <[email protected]> wrote >>>>> in <clopQ.115486$[email protected]>:If you were smart you'd get off of that Linux shit because each use
% wrote:
Brennus wrote:
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote inget a room
news:thnnQ.3221$PR33.2569 @fx08.iad:
On 8/13/25 8:46 PM, Brennus wrote:Post something interesting or entertaining or haul ass, douche. >>>>>>>> LMAO!
"Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:W4anQ.24716$[email protected]:
On 8/13/25 8:21 PM, Lane the Caustic wrote:
When I was going to school at Northface University, one day >>>>>>>>>>>> there was a guest speaker from Microsoft. Needless to say, >>>>>>>>>>>> I slept through the entire thing. This school I once asked >>>>>>>>>>>> one of the teacher about ethics and he said he had none. >>>>>>>>>>>> He's a computer scientist. It's this sort of thing that I >>>>>>>>>>>> think a lack of ethics has led to an inferior product at >>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft. It's not just about being a good person, it's >>>>>>>>>>>> about delivering something worthwhile too.
It gets me how Windows 2000 and XP were both reasonably stable >>>>>>>>>>> upon release, but *loaded* with security bugs, requiring an >>>>>>>>>>> overhaul subsequent to their releases; Linux never had this >>>>>>>>>>> problem, not remotely on that scale. M$ has had some of the >>>>>>>>>>> best minds in the industry, but their frantic pace of
development has at times meant harm to consumers.
Any more breaking news for us?
I didn't say it was only in that instance. I first used Linux >>>>>>>>> for an extended period in 2019-2021, avoiding Windows 10's
public beta test.
You knowZ what happens these bozo's with their Linux like square
peg in the round hole. They stare into kaleidoscopes all day long
until their brains turn to mashed potatoes and then they run to the >>>>>> Linux shit and tell everyone who great it is after their brain
shortcircuited.
Linux is everywhere -- it's all around you.
My phone runs Linux, my Fire TV runs Linux, my Roku runs Linux,
my DNS server runs Linux, my NAS runs Linux, a couple of my news
servers run Linux...
About the only place Linux doesn't dominate is the ever-shrinking
desktop market. But Linux still has more market share there than
Sam Adams has market share of beer.
Handheld gaming? Linux. Unless you buy that new Windows device,
which smart people are upgrading to SteamOS (Linux).
And where are you, Tony? Lost in the 90's.
destroys like 10,000 once good braincells.
That's what the blue meanies want you to think.
ObLinux:
$ lscpu Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Address sizes:
43 bits physical, 48 bits virtual Byte Order: Little
Endian
CPU(s): 64
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-63
Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Model name: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core
Processor
CPU family: 23 Model: 49 Thread(s)
per core: 2 Core(s) per socket: 32
[...]
Oh thanks, that reminded me to check kernel.org -- and woot,
there is fresh Linux there.
If you were smart you'd get off of that Linux shit because each use
destroys like 10,000 once good braincells.
On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:59:46 -0400, Tony wrote:
Linuxz has even more bugs and critters but the hackers know all the
bozos who use Linux don't have a plug nickle to their name so that's
the reason Linux never getZ hacked.
Interestingly enough, it did use to get hacked a lot more before, when
it was less popular <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Linux_malware#Threats>.
Lane the Caustic wrote:
vallor wrote:Lane the Caustic <[email protected]>
On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 18:59:12 -0500, Lane the CausticI'm pretty sure that's obsolete.
<[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:
chrisv wrote:
Lane the Caustic wrote:Neither LibreOffice nor OpenOffice are Word and at least one of them
What I'm saying is that if I have a personal computer, it had better >>>>>> have a word processor. The way Windows has it set up is pay $65/yr >>>>>> extra for a word processor. This is such utter bullshit. I can't >>>>>> even pay for it once and have the expense go away.
If someone can't be bothered to google for "free office suite" or "MS >>>>> office substitute", that's their problem.
includes non sequitur advertisement. My dollars are supposed to be a >>>> vote for what I want and what I want them to vote for is a third party >>>> to end the Word monopoly and sell me some good word processing software >>>> for a reaonable price that says, "FUCK YOU MICROENCEPHALASOFT"
So go buy WordPerfect and STFU.
... using PowerShell is in many ways as advanced as the Unix terminal.
I never use it because if something doesn't work I smash it and hoof it.
On 8/21/25 9:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
PowerShell is an example of why the Windows command line is
fundamentally broken.
That's your spin, but you're wrong ...
setsid >> nohup
vallor wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:25:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiroyou owe me
<[email protected]d> wrote in <1088kf1$1a7cu$[email protected]>:
setsid >> nohup
1) I really wish you wouldn't snip context. I know we played with that
before, but c'mon...
2) nohup outputs to nohup.out, which is part of what I want.
On 8/21/25 10:24 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
PowerShell is an example of why the Windows command line is
fundamentally broken.
That's your spin, but you're wrong ...
It is as I say, you know. It inherits the old DEC-style command
line of a simple string buffer, together with the assumption that
spawning processes has to be mediated by a shell. The *nix concept
of one process directly creating another doesn’t go well with that.
<https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/10/rust_critical_vulnerability_windows/>
PowerShell gives one a way to do more or less the same functions as
Unix would.
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:57:51 -0700, % <[email protected]>i showed you the kernel you didn't have
wrote in
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:25:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiroyou owe me
<[email protected]d> wrote in <1088kf1$1a7cu$[email protected]>:
setsid >> nohup
1) I really wish you wouldn't snip context. I know we played
with that
before, but c'mon...
2) nohup outputs to nohup.out, which is part of what I want.
I'll bite:
1) why?
2) what?
LibreOffice is for them Frenchies ...
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 18:49:37 -0400, Tony wrote:
LibreOffice is for them Frenchies ...
Open Source does tend to do a better job of international support than proprietary software does, yes.
Perhaps that’s why you find a more international group among Open
Source users than, say, Microsoft or Apple users.
% wrote:
vallor wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 19:57:51 -0700, % <[email protected]> wrote ini showed you the kernel you didn't have
<[email protected]>:
vallor wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 02:25:38 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiroyou owe me
<[email protected]d> wrote in <1088kf1$1a7cu$[email protected]>:
setsid >> nohup
1) I really wish you wouldn't snip context. I know we played with
that
before, but c'mon...
2) nohup outputs to nohup.out, which is part of what I want.
I'll bite:
1) why?
2) what?
if you plant a kernel, will it grow?
| Sysop: | Keyop |
|---|---|
| Location: | Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, UK |
| Users: | 715 |
| Nodes: | 16 (3 / 13) |
| Uptime: | 28:20:55 |
| Calls: | 12,107 |
| Calls today: | 7 |
| Files: | 15,006 |
| Messages: | 6,518,231 |