• Re: It must be a troll

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 08:43:56 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
    I have been root and never ever had a problem.

    Of course. Running as root is the only sensible option.

    These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
    in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
    running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
    answer.

    That's because they are technically stupid. They understand
    nothing. All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
    line.

    Heck. I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
    as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
    machines.

    As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
    those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
    about. Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
    are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
    totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.

    Other examples abound.

    In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
    these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
    belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.


    You're a fucking idiot, dude. I don't even know a lot about Linux's >internals or anything,

    That showa !!!

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Aug 9 16:20:06 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> writes:
    When hearing a barking dog, no sane human being would try to explain to
    it why it's wrong. For the same reason no one could teach a dog to
    understand something, no one could teach a chair and, of course, no one
    could teach you anything. So, everyone let you bark and avoid loosing
    time to explain to you the basic of computer management.

    And yet you are responding to them, multiple times...

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  • From Richard Kettlewell@21:1/5 to Joel W. Crump on Sat Aug 9 17:19:54 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    "Joel W. Crump" <[email protected]> writes:
    On 8/9/25 11:20 AM, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
    Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> writes:
    When hearing a barking dog, no sane human being would try to explain to
    it why it's wrong. For the same reason no one could teach a dog to
    understand something, no one could teach a chair and, of course, no one
    could teach you anything. So, everyone let you bark and avoid loosing
    time to explain to you the basic of computer management.
    And yet you are responding to them, multiple times...

    Yeah, because the audience should hear refutations of Larry's nutty
    bullshit.

    This part of ‘the audience’ disagrees.

    Stéphane has the right answers. Larry gets pwned time and again. But
    keeps posting his stupid nonsense, endlessly. Really pathetic.

    From my point of view the responses are just as pathetic.

    Followups set. I won’t be engaging on this point any further.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Joel W. Crump on Mon Aug 11 19:40:03 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    Joel W. Crump <[email protected]> wrote at 19:54 this Thursday (GMT):
    On 8/7/25 3:36 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Thu, 07 Aug 2025 08:00:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    All these years, from my first Linux distro SLS (Softlanding Linux System) in 1992
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softlanding_Linux_System
    I have been root and never ever had a problem.

    Of course. Running as root is the only sensible option.

    These security weirdos, if one were to ask them to explain,
    in explicit technical detail, how a personal workstation
    running root could ever be comprised, they could not ever
    answer.

    That's because they are technically stupid. They understand
    nothing. All that they can do is parrot, or ape, the standard
    line.

    Heck. I can train a monkey to shine my shoes but I sure
    as fuck would not want that monkey to administer my GNU/Linux
    machines.

    As an example, I can mention Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) and
    those security buffoons wouldn't know what the fuck I am talking
    about. Yet BPF is a major security hole and a LOT of mitigations
    are built around it -- but, for a personal workstation BPF is
    totally superfluous and can be easily eliminated.

    Other examples abound.

    In conclusion, all those that, for a personal workstation, advocate
    these common security "mitigations" are clueless idiots that
    belong in the monkey cage at the local zoo.


    You're a fucking idiot, dude. I don't even know a lot about Linux's internals or anything, but I know that operating an Internet-connected
    box as root is stupid, 99.999% of the time it'll be fine, you're right,
    but do you want to take that chance? To save typing "sudo" or whatever?
    Just moronic.


    There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root
    account.
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    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 12 01:47:32 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    On Mon, 11 Aug 2025 19:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

    There are also some programs that outright refuse to run under a root account.

    I ran into that yesterday trying to upload the Fedora kernel test results.
    It tried to spin up Firefox for me to log in but threw a message of 'no
    can do. can't run Firefox as root.' I'm not sure why. FF is a snap on
    Ubuntu but it is not a flatpak on Fedora.

    The instructions for setting up the test with the immutable versions of
    Fedora convinced me I'm not going that route any time soon.

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