• Beware Kernel 6.16: Networking Issue

    From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 10:33:15 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    I compiled and installed kernel 6.16 on one of my workstations.

    Then I tried to start my network connection. FAILED!

    WTF! This NEVER happened before. NEVER!

    I checked the modules. The Intel network driver "igc" was gone. Why
    was it not built?

    Fortunately, thanks to the Gentoo community, I quickly found the answer:

    <https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8868356.html?sid=aa35db8d6de62496b7aaa38f28b84582>

    Whew! What a relief!

    With kernel 6.16 the option ETHTOOL_NETLINK is now a dependency for the "igc" driver. By enabling ETHTOOL_NETLINK the "igc" driver can now be built.

    Thanks go to Gentoo, the best distro with the best supportive community.

    (Fortunately, my motherboard has two network interfaces. One requires "igc" but the other requires "e1000e." I was able to start the network connection using "e1000e" which then enabled me to seach online for a solution.)


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 13:43:52 2025
    Le 07-08-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    I compiled and installed kernel 6.16 on one of my workstations.

    Maybe.

    Then I tried to start my network connection. FAILED!

    That was to be expected. Any time you do something on your computer, you
    break it and something fails to run.

    WTF! This NEVER happened before. NEVER!

    For that part, I can acknowledge: you are unable to do anything
    technical, but you are very resourceful and imaginative when it comes to
    do stupid things. You never fail to surprise me.

    I checked the modules. The Intel network driver "igc" was gone. Why
    was it not built?

    My guess: you will find the reason.

    Fortunately, thanks to the Gentoo community, I quickly found the answer:

    I should have known better, sorry for my mistake. Of course you don't
    know what's running on your computer and you can't fix anything. You
    have to ask for help. My bad. Won't happen again.

    <https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8868356.html?sid=aa35db8d6de62496b7aaa38f28b84582>

    Whew! What a relief!

    With kernel 6.16 the option ETHTOOL_NETLINK is now a dependency for the "igc" driver. By enabling ETHTOOL_NETLINK the "igc" driver can now be built.

    So, thanks for your proof, that's exactly what I claim since a long
    time. Unlike your claim, you don't choose every options in the kernel,
    you are just using old options until they fail. You don't know the
    options you are using when you compile your kernel. So your kernel is
    compiled using options which were maybe good long time ago, but not
    anymore. And your kernel is not optimized. And you don't know how to
    manage the options on your kernel configuration.

    You claim the opposite, but you just proved it's a lie. And so, your
    kernel is slower than any default kernel provided by competent distro
    managers.

    Thanks go to Gentoo, the best distro with the best supportive community.

    Yes. Exactly. That was the words I was looking for: you are a distro
    lackey.

    (Fortunately, my motherboard has two network interfaces.

    What for? On a server, I see why it's useful/important but on a
    personal workstation, I don't.

    Let say things differently: I'm pretty sure you used an usb live distro
    with ubuntu (which is protected against you) which allowed you to access Internet and find the answer.

    You are an ubuntu lackey: I knew that all along.

    One requires "igc"
    but the other requires "e1000e." I was able to start the network connection using "e1000e" which then enabled me to seach online for a solution.)

    I don't believe in that part. If it was true, you wouldn't have lost
    your network connection. You may have lost your Internet connection, but
    it's not the same error and the same thing as loosing your network
    connection.

    As I said, you lost your network connection, used an Ubuntu usb live CD
    (thanks for ubuntu distro), found out the answer thanks (thanks for
    Gentoo distro), corrected your options (proving you are not the master
    of your kernel) and invented a scenario to make believe you are in
    charge.

    But all that proves is only you are in charge in finding new ways to
    break your computer. And in that, you are good, keep going, I'm really
    having fun.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 14:00:18 2025
    On 09 Aug 2025 13:43:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    That was to be expected. Any time you do something on your computer, you break it and something fails to run.


    I have had enough of these insults. You have offended my honor and I demand
    a duel:

    https://louisiana-anthology.org/texts/millingen/millingen--code_of_dueling_in_france.html

    I demand pistols.

    But you are a coward and would never accept because you know that
    I would blow your fucking head off.





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 14:26:09 2025
    Le 09-08-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On 09 Aug 2025 13:43:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    That was to be expected. Any time you do something on your computer, you
    break it and something fails to run.


    I have had enough of these insults.

    It's not an insult: it's an obvious fact. You are the one insulting others.

    You have offended my honor and I demand a duel:

    https://louisiana-anthology.org/texts/millingen/millingen--code_of_dueling_in_france.html

    I knew you live in the past, but I didn't knew it was that far in the
    past. Duels are forbidden in France.

    I demand pistols.

    You would either blow you own hand or your own foot or someone far away.

    But you are a coward and would never accept because you know that
    I would blow your fucking head off.

    First, you would have to come in France for that. Which will never
    happen. Second, if you come and manage to find pistols, I don't want to
    go in prison because I would be responsible when you blow your own hand.

    Last time you told me you would sent your special service agents to kill
    me. What happened to them? They just disappear with your delusions?

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  • From Tyrone@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 15:35:12 2025
    On Aug 9, 2025 at 10:07:48 AM EDT, ""Joel W. Crump"" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/9/25 10:00 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On 09 Aug 2025 13:43:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    That was to be expected. Any time you do something on your computer, you >>> break it and something fails to run.

    I have had enough of these insults. You have offended my honor and I demand >> a duel:

    https://louisiana-anthology.org/texts/millingen/millingen--code_of_dueling_in_france.html

    I demand pistols.

    But you are a coward and would never accept because you know that
    I would blow your fucking head off.


    Take your meds, clown, you're proving that Stéphane bested you, FFS, how
    are you this much of a loser?

    Too funny. Once again, Farley Fucktard lives up to his name. He is utterly clueless about everything he posts about.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 9 17:42:01 2025
    On 09 Aug 2025 14:26:09 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    I knew you live in the past, but I didn't knew it was that far in the
    past. Duels are forbidden in France.


    This is not France, dumb fuck. This is Louisiana, USA.

    Louisiana was part of the region known as New France:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_France

    In Louisiana today the duel is still very accepted and
    even encouraged in cases of violation of honor.

    So get on a plane to Louisiana and prepare for a duel.
    You'll be there in 5-6 hours.

    But you won't. You are a coward. You are afraid. You
    know that you will lose and that you'll be missing a
    head.

    Now the whole world knows that you are a coward. Now
    the whole world knows that all you can do is hurl
    insults on Usenet but are afraid to back them up.

    You will now live your life in abject shame and that's
    what you deserve for violating the honor of a GNU/Linux
    master.


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel W. Crump on Sat Aug 9 19:58:34 2025
    On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 10:07:48 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    On 8/9/25 10:00 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On 09 Aug 2025 13:43:52 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

    That was to be expected. Any time you do something on your computer,
    you break it and something fails to run.

    I have had enough of these insults. You have offended my honor and I
    demand a duel:

    https://louisiana-anthology.org/texts/millingen/millingen-- code_of_dueling_in_france.html

    I demand pistols.

    But you are a coward and would never accept because you know that I
    would blow your fucking head off.


    Take your meds, clown, you're proving that Stéphane bested you, FFS, how
    are you this much of a loser?

    Will someone please introduce He of Many Nyms to the Mozambique drill up
    close and personal?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 11:13:47 2025
    Le 10-08-2025, RonB <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On 2025-08-09, Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> wrote:

    But all that proves is only you are in charge in finding new ways to
    break your computer. And in that, you are good, keep going, I'm really
    having fun.

    It's something I don't even to think about when using Linux Mint. I have Ethernet ports and they work (out of box) — non-problem solved.

    Yes, that's exactly my point. The Ethernet is the most reliable thing I
    ever saw. It's impressive how it works by itself everywhere. He's the
    only one in the world who managed to break it. He had issues with ntpd
    which works fine everywhere, but on his computer.

    He manages to break very hardcore well working tools. It's impressive to
    be able to do it. He couldn't do it with Windows or with Apple. It's the
    reason I say he's a Windows aficionado trying to make Linux users being
    fools. He's the living proof why one shouldn't be logged as root by
    default.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 13:25:35 2025
    On 10 Aug 2025 11:13:47 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Yes, that's exactly my point. The Ethernet is the most reliable thing I
    ever saw. It's impressive how it works by itself everywhere.


    The issue is not Ethernet, you mentally retarded fool.

    The issue is an IC on the motherboard that implements the
    Ethernet protocol.

    To access this IC the kernel requires a specific driver (module).
    In kernel 6.16 a new dependency was suddenly introduced for this
    module. If the kernel builder uses "make oldconfig," as most
    builders do, this will result in the module not being built due
    to the dependency being omitted. (Read the link which I provided --
    if you can.)

    But you don't build the kernel. You don't build anything.
    You are totally dependent on a distro. You are a helpless
    lackey.

    Thus, my post was a very informative and very conscientious
    warning to all kernel builders. Lackeys, like you, should
    not comment.

    I don't want to criticize the kernel developers but it seems
    that "make oldconfig" should have caught this. I am considering
    filing a bug report with the Linux Kernel Mailing List (LKML).

    Ha, ha, ha, ha!

    It is most certain that you never filed a bug report about
    anything, because you are far too STUPID to recognize a bug,
    however minor.

    You are just an idiot freeloader.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 10 14:39:46 2025
    Le 10-08-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On 10 Aug 2025 11:13:47 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Yes, that's exactly my point. The Ethernet is the most reliable thing I
    ever saw. It's impressive how it works by itself everywhere.


    The issue is not Ethernet,

    I know: you are the issue.

    you mentally retarded fool.

    You can do better. Try again.

    I don't want to criticize the kernel developers

    You shouldn't.

    but it seems that "make oldconfig" should have caught this.

    It seems you should know what you do. But you don't.

    I am considering filing a bug report with the Linux Kernel Mailing
    List (LKML).

    What for? You want a donation to get a brain? You want a free course on
    the kernel options. You want a free course on C development?

    Whatever your answer, you would make them loose their time. Forget about
    it. Keep bragging here when you prove you are a useless pathetic Windows
    user unable to switch to Linux.

    You are just an idiot freeloader.

    As long as you pretend to be an artist, you should be able to come with
    a better insult. The only way in which you manage to be an artist is the
    way in which you manage to break your computer. It's not enough.

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