• Open Source organization pledge fealty to the United Nations

    From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 5 20:04:25 2025
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/open-source-orgs-pledge-fealty-to>

    “Who controls Open Source?” is a fascinating topic.

    Some of the largest “Open Source” foundations are primarily funded by corporations which, by most estimations, have not historically been fans
    of “Open Source” or “Free Software”.

    Case in point, The Linux Foundation — which brings in roughly a Third of
    a Billion dollars per year — is heavily funded by corporate sponsors
    such as Microsoft, Hitachi, Meta, & Tencent. All of which derive most of
    their revenue from proprietary systems. Likewise Mozilla (bringing in
    over $600 Million annually) is almost entirely funded by Google.

    As the saying goes, “He who controls the purse strings, controls how the money is spent.”

    And, of course, we must consider the political control (and influence)
    over Open Source. Many large Open Source Foundations and Organizations
    have deep, often financial, ties to political activism organizations —
    both Mozilla and Wikimedia being some of the more well known examples.

    Well.

    Buckle up, Buttercup. Because all of this is about to get a whole lot worse.

    Enter the United Nations
    Back in March, the United Nations announced that 16 organizations had
    signed on to the “United Nations Open Source Principles”.

    The “UN Open Source Principles” is a set of 8 core principles which Open Source organizations are vowing to adhere to. 5 of those 8 principles
    being fairly obvious and, considering the topic, not at all surprising.

    Expected things like “Make Open Source the standard approach” and “Encourage active participation in Open Source”. Oh, and “Make security
    a priority”.

    Ok. Sure. Fine.

    I can understand why an Open Source organization might choose to pledge
    to follow such ideals. In theory, they were possibly doing those things
    anyway.

    But three of the “UN Open Source Principles” raise significant red flags.


    The Red Flag UN Open Source Principles
    Let’s go over those three, red flag raising items. Which every signatory
    has agreed to.

    “4. Foster inclusive participation and community building: Enabling and facilitating diverse and inclusive contributions.”

    Inclusive. Diverse.

    Over the last several years these have become code words for
    “discriminate against people we don’t like”. We’ve seen this time and time again — with companies like Red Hat and IBM building entire
    corporate policies around what skin color they want in their employees.

    All hidden behind words like “Inclusive” and “Diverse”.

    And the United Nations wants Open Source organizations to commit to that
    form of systemic discrimination.

    Already, this is not great. But it gets far, far worse.

    “7. RISE (recognize, incentivize, support and empower): Empowering individuals and communities to actively participate.”

    If you don’t know what RISE is, that sentence reads like a bunch of
    corporate buzz word mumbo jumbo. But it has a very real, very sinister
    meaning.

    What is “RISE”, you ask? It is a codified framework for encouraging
    exactly the type of discrimination we just talked about — it has become
    an increasingly widely used tactic among DEI advocates.

    RISE is an acronym:

    Recognize the contributions of “underrepresented or marginalized”
    groups. Highlight the achievements of “diverse” employees over “non diverse” employees”.

    Incentivize “underrepresented” groups (with internships, promotions, scholarships, bonuses, etc.) to encourage “diversity”. (read: discrimination)

    Support “underrepresented or marginalized” groups with tailored
    resources to ensure “equitable” outcomes. (read: no meritocracy)

    Empower “diverse” individuals with leadership roles in order to promote DEI.

    Sometimes discussion around “RISE” specifically includes language
    regarding “DEI” and “Diversity”. Other times that exact language is left
    out — but the core goals and motives remain consistently DEI focused.

    It is, in essence, a corporate-speak, checklist for encouraging
    discrimination.

    Which brings us to the last “UN Open Source Principle”. The one which, quite possibly, raises the largest red flag of all…

    “8. Sustain and scale: Supporting the development of solutions that meet
    the evolving needs of the UN system and beyond.”

    Did you catch that?

    Open Source organizations, which sign on to this compact, are pledging
    to “support the development of solutions that meet the needs of the
    United Nations”.

    Or, put another way, those organizations are pledging to do the bidding
    of the UN. Whatever that might be.

    The UN is asking these Open Source organizations to pledge fealty to them.

    The Open Source Orgs Pledging Fealty
    Which Open Source organizations are we talking about? Quite a few of the
    big names — names which will be very familiar to Lunduke Journal readers
    — including:

    The Linux Foundation

    The GNOME Foundation

    Eclipse Foundation

    The Document Foundation (LibreOffice)

    And so many others. Heck, even Nextcloud and Matrix have signed on.


    Many of these organizations (and others) recently met, in person, at the
    United Nations in New York to discuss — among other things — this formal agreement. This… compact.

    The UN Global Digital Compact
    In June of this year, the United Nations hosted “UN Open Source Week” — and invited a who’s who of organizations which control Open Source in
    one form or another (along with a number of smaller organizations which
    are politically aligned with the UN).

    This gathering was officially named “an Open Community for the Global
    Digital Compact”.


    Who did the United Nations make a point of inviting to speak to those in attendance?

    Let’s go down the list.


    The Gates Foundation and Mozilla.

    Of course.


    Amazon and, I kid you not, The World Bank.


    GitLab and Wikimedia Foundation.


    I found the inclusion of Mastodon a fascinating one. While Mastodon is
    small (in most ways — even considering the size of their social media network), they align strongly to the political goals and views of the
    United Nations (promote Leftist Extremism, censor political opponents).


    And, of course, GitHub. Aka… Microsoft.

    In addition, representatives from most of the signatories of the “United Nations Open Source Principles” agreement were in attendance (including
    the GNOME Foundation).

    Some of the presentations were about things like “Ethical” software, interoperability with United Nations systems, “Public infrastructure”, digital “cooperation” of governments, and (of course) “inclusion”.

    Many presentations — by many organizations — which already raise significant concerns.

    But, and this is important, what did they talk about behind closed
    doors? What was discussed out of the public eye at the (many) meetings
    and events where attendees were wined and dined?

    That remains unknown.

    The Lunduke Journal has asked. The UN isn’t talking. Neither are the attendees.

    The Three Masters of Open Source
    But we now know, with a high level of certainty, that many of the
    significant Open Source organizations and Foundations now serve three
    masters:

    The Corporations

    The Political Activists

    The United Nations

    I don’t know about you, but I sure wouldn’t want to have those three masters.

    As always, The Lunduke Journal encourages representatives and leadership
    from any organization involved with this story to reach out — for any
    reason. Corrections, clarifications, or additional information.
    Considering the professed commitment to “openness” of every organization mentioned in this story, there should be no reason to continue refusing
    to speak to journalists regarding it.

    Likewise, if you would like to become a whistleblower, there are
    multiple ways to get ahold of The Lunduke Journal.

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

    And this story needs a heck of a lot of sunlight.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam aims to conquer
    John 14:6

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Wed Aug 6 01:04:01 2025
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    “4. Foster inclusive participation and community building: Enabling and facilitating diverse and inclusive contributions.”

    Inclusive. Diverse.

    Over the last several years these have become code words for
    “discriminate against people we don’t like”. We’ve seen this time and time again — with companies like Red Hat and IBM building entire
    corporate policies around what skin color they want in their employees.

    All hidden behind words like “Inclusive” and “Diverse”.

    I don’t see what the big deal is. It’s Free software, after all: if you don’t like some existing group that is working on a project, you are Free
    to take a copy of the software and go form your own group to work around
    it.

    It’s simply not possible to discriminate against anybody who wants to use Free software.

    Greetings from 🇳🇿, a proud 🇺🇳 member.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Wed Aug 6 04:51:22 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 01:04:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    “4. Foster inclusive participation and community building: Enabling and
    facilitating diverse and inclusive contributions.”

    Inclusive. Diverse.

    Over the last several years these have become code words for
    “discriminate against people we don’t like”. We’ve seen this time and
    time again — with companies like Red Hat and IBM building entire
    corporate policies around what skin color they want in their employees.

    All hidden behind words like “Inclusive” and “Diverse”.

    I don’t see what the big deal is. It’s Free software, after all: if you don’t like some existing group that is working on a project, you are
    Free to take a copy of the software and go form your own group to work
    around it.

    It’s simply not possible to discriminate against anybody who wants to
    use Free software.

    Greetings from 🇳🇿, a proud 🇺🇳 member.

    https://www.fsu.nz/

    Unless it's more Orwellian NewSpeak it sounds like the FSU's attempt to
    take over InternetNZ is a good thing.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 07:58:34 2025
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/open-source-orgs-pledge-fealty-to>

    “Who controls Open Source?” is a fascinating topic.

    I do not think I ever got anything for the code I released under the GPL
    I did notice one website once making a clone of what I was doing,
    I terminated that project (for other reasons) and they got stuck :-)

    So, YOU control open source (if you write code).
    If they screw up Linux I'll write my own OS.
    Already wrote a CP/M clone years ago, and a multi-tasker later.
    It is simple.
    Who controls me? They always had a problems with that
    I am a rebel by nature it seems.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 11:37:21 2025
    On 8/6/25 3:58 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/open-source-orgs-pledge-fealty-to>

    “Who controls Open Source?” is a fascinating topic.

    I do not think I ever got anything for the code I released under the GPL
    I did notice one website once making a clone of what I was doing,
    I terminated that project (for other reasons) and they got stuck :-)

    So, YOU control open source (if you write code).
    If they screw up Linux I'll write my own OS.
    Already wrote a CP/M clone years ago, and a multi-tasker later.
    It is simple.
    Who controls me? They always had a problems with that
    I am a rebel by nature it seems.


    You could create a new OS, but doesn't that seem late to the game?
    Linus started this revolution 30-some years ago, it's had time to mature
    into a robust product, what would your OS offer?

    Well, I would have to start coding it to give more info,
    the multi-tasker I once wrote was super simple.

    Most Linux stuff depends on libraries written for it.
    From Xfree to math to what not.
    And what libraries you need depends on the sort of applications you want to run.

    World is made more complicated than it really needs to be.
    I like to code in asm, Microchip PIC asm specifically.
    Written all sorts of stuff for that.
    The question is not 'what would my OS offer',
    it is:
    1) do I really need an OS?
    2) what do I need to do what I want to do?
    3) do I really need a file system?

    Much what I need can be done with a simple micro controller:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/index.html

    Do I need a freaking OS and / or a filesystem to set waypoints for my drone?
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html
    scroll down to
    GPS auto pilot code for Microchip PIC18F14K22:
    gpss-0.5.asm
    And for those who cannot assemble it, here the hex file:
    gpss-0.5.hex

    A 3 dollar micro controller and cheapest SDcard will do.

    We live in a world of bloat,
    if you understand the hardware things become much simpler.
    But then I started in electronics in the fifties...
    To use Usenet do I NEED an OS?
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/index.html
    this runs on x86 Linux, and now on this raspberry.
    But basically the code is C and depends on just few libraries that I can write in a few days if needed,
    can be ported to any thing, even small cheap micros without an OS.

    Linux is not a goal in itself, just makes some things simpler.
    But is - basically - mostly bloat from an application POV.

    Or only telnet for Usenet?
    telnet your_newsserver.org 119

    And then if you write the code not even telnet...
    Internet?
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/ethernet_color_pic/
    who needs Linux?
    will work worldwide :-) If you have a fixed IP address ...

    Math? libmath, who needs it for an FFT?
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/pic/scope_pic/

    Few lines of asm 3 dollar PIC.


    So, and the ever changing libraries for Linux are a pain for anybody who has more than 1 application written using those.
    Sometimes changed by people who have no clue .
    Same for the ever changing gcc command line flags.
    Nothing extra comes from it, but screws up your makefiles..
    So, is there a self-destruct process going on for Linux?

    Something new will appear or maybe something totally different,
    people asking AI to write the code or ask AI to write a new OS?
    Who knows, more fuzziness, more bloat?

    Most of what I see AI do is use google and just a few lines of code to make a text for people.
    Gigawatts of power needed.
    An other US snake oil enterprise, like human made climate change?
    Triggered by Al Gore and his poor polar beers..
    People should be more concerned about the genocide in Gaza and other places. OK, better stop here, drifting from the subject.
    I just made a nice scrolling matrix display in the window making people think about the situation in Gaza.,
    written in C and driven by an old Raspberry Pi running Linux.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Aug 6 08:18:41 2025
    On 2025-08-06 00:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Recognize the contributions of “underrepresented or marginalized”
    groups. Highlight the achievements of “diverse” employees over “non
    diverse” employees”.

    Almost every show I watch lately has a brilliant black hacker of indeterminate sexuality. Certainly they can contribute much to open
    source.

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll
    find you a unicorn.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam is the enemy
    John 14:6

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 16:28:42 2025
    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 03:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro pisze:
    It’s simply not possible to discriminate against anybody who wants to use Free software.

    It is not true! Years ago Linux programmers entirely change USB
    implementation in order to phase out some guy from Poland (who make
    business on Linux computers control some USB devices). They keep in
    secret how to manage USB devices in new way. This polish guy manage them another way: he switch all his computers to some BSD o.s. Any further informations about this polish entrepreneur are unknown.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Wed Aug 6 04:41:28 2025
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Recognize the contributions of “underrepresented or marginalized”
    groups. Highlight the achievements of “diverse” employees over “non diverse” employees”.

    Almost every show I watch lately has a brilliant black hacker of
    indeterminate sexuality. Certainly they can contribute much to open
    source.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 11:06:28 2025
    On 2025-08-06 10:28, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:
    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 03:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro pisze:
    It’s simply not possible to discriminate against anybody who wants to use >> Free software.

    It is not true! Years ago Linux programmers entirely change USB implementation in order to phase out some guy from Poland (who make
    business on Linux computers control some USB devices). They keep in
    secret how to manage USB devices in new way. This polish guy manage them another way: he switch all his computers to some BSD o.s. Any further informations about this polish entrepreneur are unknown.

    Wow, I had no idea they did such a thing. Why did they want to
    discriminate against him?

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam is the enemy
    John 14:6

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  • From Scott Doty@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 13:41:28 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans, comp.os.linux.misc, soc.culture.african.american

    In article <BKHkQ.135720$[email protected]>, [email protected] says...

    On 2025-08-06 00:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Recognize the contributions of ?underrepresented or marginalized?
    groups. Highlight the achievements of ?diverse? employees over ?non
    diverse? employees?.

    Almost every show I watch lately has a brilliant black hacker of indeterminate sexuality. Certainly they can contribute much to open
    source.

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll
    find you a unicorn.


    https://youtu.be/8iaJXomGSSw

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel W. Crump on Wed Aug 6 19:43:27 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 10:38:27 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    On 8/6/25 8:18 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-08-06 00:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Recognize the contributions of “underrepresented or marginalized”
    groups. Highlight the achievements of “diverse” employees over “non >>>> diverse” employees”.

    Almost every show I watch lately has a brilliant black hacker of
    indeterminate sexuality. Certainly they can contribute much to open
    source.

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll
    find you a unicorn.


    Uh, look in any college, maybe? WTF, dude.

    You're assuming college students of any flavor can read above a 5th grade level. One of the freshmen English classes where I went was remedial
    English. I don't mean ESL; this was for fledgling engineers who had not
    quite mastered their native language. Great math SAT scores though.

    I only remember one black guy and he was an African, Kenyan iirc. Plenty
    of Asians, east and west, though.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 23:54:22 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 16:28:42 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 03:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro pisze:

    It’s simply not possible to discriminate against anybody who wants to
    use
    Free software.

    It is not true! Years ago Linux programmers entirely change USB implementation in order to phase out some guy from Poland (who make
    business on Linux computers control some USB devices). They keep in
    secret how to manage USB devices in new way.

    That’s a load of nonsense. libusb has been around for years, decades, to insulate userland from the vagaries of the kernel USB stack.

    I remember Greg Kroah-Hartman relating how the USB architecture in both
    the Linux and Windows kernels had, at that point, been rewritten 3 times. However, Windows still had to carry around baggage from the older
    versions, just to maintain backward compatibility with older third-party drivers, while Linux did not.

    That’s why we have libusb. Stick to that.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Aug 6 20:39:17 2025
    On 2025-08-06 15:43, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 10:38:27 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    On 8/6/25 8:18 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2025-08-06 00:41, rbowman wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 20:04:25 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Recognize the contributions of “underrepresented or marginalized” >>>>> groups. Highlight the achievements of “diverse” employees over “non >>>>> diverse” employees”.

    Almost every show I watch lately has a brilliant black hacker of
    indeterminate sexuality. Certainly they can contribute much to open
    source.

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll
    find you a unicorn.


    Uh, look in any college, maybe? WTF, dude.

    You're assuming college students of any flavor can read above a 5th grade level. One of the freshmen English classes where I went was remedial
    English. I don't mean ESL; this was for fledgling engineers who had not
    quite mastered their native language. Great math SAT scores though.

    I only remember one black guy and he was an African, Kenyan iirc. Plenty
    of Asians, east and west, though.

    Even when they manage to get to university, the African blacks are
    usually among the first to drop out of university. Some make it all the
    way, but they struggle to the end. Still, I much prefer African blacks
    to the niggers North America produces. Those usually believe in hard
    work and decency. Unfortunately, they produce garbage niggers there too
    and they are either already in Europe ruining the place or on their way
    there. Unfortunately, they won't entertain Joel Crump's offer of girl
    cock when they come to cut off his head.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam is the enemy.
    John 14:6

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Joel W. Crump on Thu Aug 7 01:31:10 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 15:52:34 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    On 8/6/25 3:43 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 10:38:27 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 8/6/25 8:18 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll
    find you a unicorn.

    Uh, look in any college, maybe? WTF, dude.

    You're assuming college students of any flavor can read above a 5th
    grade level. One of the freshmen English classes where I went was
    remedial English. I don't mean ESL; this was for fledgling engineers
    who had not quite mastered their native language. Great math SAT scores
    though.

    I only remember one black guy and he was an African, Kenyan iirc.
    Plenty of Asians, east and west, though.


    A black American college student presumably reads at a
    high-school-graduate level.

    That's a pitifully low bar.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2020-10-28/reading- scores-fall-among-us-high-school-seniors

    https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-high-school-graduates-turn-out-to-be- college-illiterates/

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-08-14/how-teaching-reading- in-every-high-school-class-can-improve-literacy

    Amazing. Two left leaning sources and one right wing agree we are
    producing a generation of illiterates. A nation should be spending its resources on the best not coddling the marginal population but it's the
    nature of a democracy to promote mediocrity.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Thu Aug 7 01:39:52 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 20:39:17 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Even when they manage to get to university, the African blacks are
    usually among the first to drop out of university. Some make it all the
    way, but they struggle to the end.

    I lost track of that guy. He did provide an entertaining episode. He
    didn't have a car and wanted to go to a sort of jazz club in Albany so I
    drove him. I was the sole dirty white boy in the venue and they didn't
    roll out the red carpet. 'I'm with him' was sort of a shaky justification
    since they weren't too sure about a real African either. The situation
    didn't escalate but it wasn't very comfortable.

    I could understand their attitude. A black boy wandering into most of the places I frequented wouldn't work well either.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to rbowman on Wed Aug 6 21:50:42 2025
    On 2025-08-06 21:31, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 15:52:34 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    On 8/6/25 3:43 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 10:38:27 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    On 8/6/25 8:18 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

    Find me a black person who can read above a 5th grade level and I'll >>>>> find you a unicorn.

    Uh, look in any college, maybe? WTF, dude.

    You're assuming college students of any flavor can read above a 5th
    grade level. One of the freshmen English classes where I went was
    remedial English. I don't mean ESL; this was for fledgling engineers
    who had not quite mastered their native language. Great math SAT scores
    though.

    I only remember one black guy and he was an African, Kenyan iirc.
    Plenty of Asians, east and west, though.


    A black American college student presumably reads at a
    high-school-graduate level.

    That's a pitifully low bar.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2020-10-28/reading- scores-fall-among-us-high-school-seniors

    https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-high-school-graduates-turn-out-to-be- college-illiterates/

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-08-14/how-teaching-reading- in-every-high-school-class-can-improve-literacy

    Amazing. Two left leaning sources and one right wing agree we are
    producing a generation of illiterates. A nation should be spending its resources on the best not coddling the marginal population but it's the nature of a democracy to promote mediocrity.

    I've been saying it for years in my own field: the lowest performers
    should be ignored, and we should be catering to those who can and will
    put in the work to become ones that can. Unfortunately, we all have the tendency to cater to the lowest common denominator which results in 3/4
    of the class becoming dumber. Why do we do this? Because we've accepted
    blacks into our classrooms. In trying to get through to these
    numbskulls, we bore the hell out of students who wish they could learn something.

    I've been refusing to do it for a while because no matter how easy you
    try to make it for the negro, it's never easy enough and they'll just
    refuse to do the work.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    EndeavourOS backer
    Islam is the enemy.
    John 14:6

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 04:27:20 2025
    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 16:59, Joel W. Crump pisze:
    I do consider Linux a way of life.

    True!

    Is it a clone of Unix, sure, who
    cares?

    I care! It should follow Plan9 solutions, but it doesn't! What does it
    mean? For eg. you can not work on clusters in civil market. You can't
    just mount all processors from your private network and speed up any
    time consuming, parallel-able operations (compiling, ray-tracing,
    compression, and many more). Probably this is reserved exclusively for
    os-es for secret-service in their black projects.

    It's a real, live OS, free to install, free as well of the bloat
    of Windows.

    This is not true! Memory requirements are almost the same: 1GB RAM. This
    is insane when you compare this to Amiga OS v3.2 from 2020 which require
    only 2MB to work. This is "free of bloat".

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 05:06:49 2025
    W dniu 7.08.2025 o 04:27, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:

    It's a real, live OS, free to install, free as well of the bloat of
    Windows.

    This is not true! Memory requirements are almost the same: 1GB RAM. This
    is insane when you compare this to Amiga OS v3.2 from 2020 which require
    only 2MB to work. This is "free of bloat".

    In the sake of completeness, quote:

    "* 2MB of total memory. Total memory is calculated by adding Chip RAM
    and Fast RAM. Consider an additional half megabyte if you are not using
    a physical Kickstart ROM 3.2
    * 10 MB of free hard disk space"

    source: WWW page titled "AmigaOS 3.2", section "Requirements", URL:

    <https://amigastore.eu/en/838-amigaos-32.html>

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 03:17:00 2025
    On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 16:36:47 +0200, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 wrote:

    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 10:40, Joel W. Crump pisze:

    Linus started this revolution 30-some years ago,

    What kind of revolution do you mean? Revolutionary OS-es was: Unix from
    1970 and Plan9 from 1993. Linux was just open source implementation of
    Unix from 1970.

    “Open source” is the key. Linux was the missing cornerstone that the GNU project lacked, to fulfil the dream of a complete open-source OS+userland,
    not under the control of any corporate (like Unix was under the control of AT&T), free for ordinary people to take and use and hack and redistribute
    as they wished.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 6 16:36:47 2025
    W dniu 6.08.2025 o 10:40, Joel W. Crump pisze:
    Linus started this revolution 30-some years ago,

    What kind of revolution do you mean? Revolutionary OS-es was: Unix from
    1970 and Plan9 from 1993. Linux was just open source implementation of
    Unix from 1970. So you must be joking.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?8J+HtfCfh7FKYWNlayBNYXJja@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 7 05:10:26 2025
    W dniu 7.08.2025 o 04:27, 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 pisze:
    Amiga OS v3.2 from 2020

    Correction: according to this page:

    <https://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/index.php/news/1-latest-news/290-amigaos-42-for-all-classic-amigas-released-and-available>

    Amiga OS v3.2 was released 2021-05-14, fri.

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