• Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovere

    From Paul@21:1/5 to Borax Man on Mon Mar 31 07:05:24 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 3/31/2025 5:21 AM, Borax Man wrote:
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
    On 2025-03-30, pothead <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:
    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and
    Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody
    wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.

    The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the
    command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a
    button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the
    Microsoft Account requirement.

    Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users
    to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during
    the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.

    While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that
    enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least
    not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself,
    but that's a much longer and tedious process.

    But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been
    discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with
    Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a
    total breeze.

    Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start
    ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup
    experience will allow you to create a local account directly without
    needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

    The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows
    10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
    The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets
    you specify a username and password for the local account. Then,
    clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before
    being asked to specify your privacy settings.

    We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and
    can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared >>> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and
    to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before
    landing on the desktop.

    This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end
    of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks
    you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!

    While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that
    Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often
    going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so
    use it while you can!

    The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
    of weeks ago.
    All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.

    The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
    At least until they screw with that as well.




    Which they will. These workarounds is just backing yourself into a
    corner. They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to
    use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision.
    No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship. Abandon Windows now.


    Computing still works. SuperPI 1.5xs is still as fast as it ever was :-)
    6:53 for 32 million digits of PI. 16MB of L3. 4635 Mhz
    6:30 for 32 million digits of PI. 64MB of L3. 5050 Mhz

    One of the two machines has an MSA. Must be the slow one :-)

    I used to compare the OSes on that benchmark, but the machine
    I used to use for that died (blown southbridge), so I can no
    longer compare them. I used to compare them from WinXP to Win10.
    Maybe Windows 7 was a few seconds faster. But there was not a
    progression of "our latest OS is our best OS".

    Most of the Microsoft "tricks" and "ploys" are pointless, but
    it makes them happy I guess. I don't find myself buying
    "XBox GamePass?" just because a Notification popped up in my face.
    I don't have an XBox, and it's hard to say how a single
    notification would turn me into a "rental gamer". My last copy of
    Microsoft Office here, was bought in 1999, when I was
    still working. And I won't need an AI to help me write a ransom note.

    "Clippy"
    https://uncyclopedia.com/w/images/b/b3/Mainscreen1.jpg

    Paul

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to pothead on Mon Mar 31 09:09:41 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-03-30 09:49, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:
    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
    signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and
    Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody
    wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.

    The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the
    command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a
    button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the
    Microsoft Account requirement.

    Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users
    to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during
    the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.

    While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that
    enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least
    not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself,
    but that's a much longer and tedious process.

    But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been
    discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with
    Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a
    total breeze.

    Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start
    ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup
    experience will allow you to create a local account directly without
    needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

    The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows
    10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
    The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets
    you specify a username and password for the local account. Then,
    clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before
    being asked to specify your privacy settings.

    We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and
    can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared
    to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and
    to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before
    landing on the desktop.

    This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end
    of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks
    you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!

    While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that
    Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often
    going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so
    use it while you can!

    The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
    of weeks ago.
    All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.

    The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
    At least until they screw with that as well.

    Installing the Professional version is the solution if you actually
    purchased the Professional ISO in box. Otherwise, when you download the
    ISO from the web, it behaves like the Home edition and doesn't even give
    you the option to bypass that stuff. For example, I have a key of 10 Pro
    that I bought. If I don't mind going through 10 first, I can bypass the Microsoft account requirement. Otherwise, I have to rely on the web ISO
    which doesn't grant me that luxury.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Borax Man on Mon Mar 31 14:06:06 2025
    On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:21:05 +0000, Borax Man wrote:



    Which they will. These workarounds is just backing yourself into a
    corner. They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to
    use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision.
    No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship. Abandon Windows now.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Do you actually think that the average Winblows user will care enough
    to abandon the OS?

    MicroSoft could demand their first-born children as part of the license agreement and they would happily comply.

    The sheepish Micro$oft user base will NEVER abandon ship. NEVER.




    --
    Hail Linux! Hail FOSS! Hail Stallman!

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Mon Mar 31 12:57:36 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I
    don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
    would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Mar 31 13:55:09 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
    signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
    you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 31 12:12:18 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:54 -0700, T wrote:

    It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you
    are on a domain.

    And it doesn't check?

    --
    Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
    Shikata ga nai...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Mon Mar 31 21:50:45 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I
    don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
    would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, >you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
    look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account information from there. Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
    using it. HE didn't tell me to replace it? So maybe he doesnt' mind if everyone uses it.

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Mar 31 22:59:44 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 3/31/2025 9:50 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I >>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password >>> would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
    you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
    look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account information from there. Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
    using it. HE didn't tell me to replace it? So maybe he doesnt' mind if everyone uses it.


    If you go to Start : Run and enter

    control.exe

    then select

    User Accounts

    then

    Manage Another Account

    what does it show for account listings ?

    For example, mine has one MSA (with email address) and two local accounts.
    The local accounts help with file sharing.

    Paul

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Apr 1 08:45:56 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-03-31 21:50, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I >>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password >>> would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
    you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
    look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account information from there. Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
    using it. HE didn't tell me to replace it? So maybe he doesnt' mind if everyone uses it.

    To be fair, a refurbisher probably isn't that much of an idiot. At the
    worst, I'd assume that he installed the system using a Microsoft
    account, then created a new Administrator account that's local, and
    deleted the initial account.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Tue Apr 1 18:00:40 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:


    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I
    don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
    would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, >you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    Great. I looked at it in the new computer and it suggests I sign in. I
    looked for my MS login but I don't seem to have recorded it. Now I
    remember. I've been using whatever I used for Skype, but I don't have
    that recorded either. But I started Skype** that reminded me.

    I'm not logged in to my current computers either.

    It says it will sync the various computers, but I don't think I want
    that. Can I assume it's ooptional?

    It encourages me to log in by saying I can use it for "your Windows pc,
    Xbox console, or any of Microsoft�s products and services, including
    Office, Outlook.com, OneDrive, Xbox Live, Microsoft 365, Family Safety,
    Skype, Bing, Microsoft Store and MSN."

    I don't think I need it for Bing.
    I should probably use OneDrive but I still don't.
    And I think I once used the Microsoft store (to get Powertoys I think)
    And when I was abroad a few years ago I used Skype a lot, but whatsapp
    has mostly replaced it.


    **It's a good thing I started Skype. It told me that Skype will end in
    May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.
    Did it that take my old chats with it? Only 5 of 35!
    Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53!
    Did it take my $12 credit with it? No mention of that. Even if so, I
    dont' see how I'll ever use it up as long as whatsapp exists, Skype
    would call any number, not just a cell phone***, but at 2 cents a
    minute, it would take 600 minutes, 10 hours.

    ***And one of my best friends has a cellphone, but he only takes
    cruises, with hia wife, no parents or children, so he doesn't call
    anyone when he's away, and doesn't have Whatsapp. When I wanted to make
    a video call to him, I had to settle for a voice call, but I think my
    Guatamala SIM included calls to the US, so it was free iirc.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Apr 1 20:17:59 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 2025-04-01 6:00 p.m., micky wrote:



    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:


    On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

    Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
    command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and >>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

    I don't understand this thread. I just bought a refurbished win11
    laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account. I >>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password >>> would be. I don't think it's even asked me to sign in. Is it using
    the refurbisher's account?

    If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
    you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
    going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
    local account or not.

    Great. I looked at it in the new computer and it suggests I sign in. I looked for my MS login but I don't seem to have recorded it. Now I
    remember. I've been using whatever I used for Skype, but I don't have
    that recorded either. But I started Skype** that reminded me.

    I'm not logged in to my current computers either.

    It says it will sync the various computers, but I don't think I want
    that. Can I assume it's ooptional?

    It encourages me to log in by saying I can use it for "your Windows pc,
    Xbox console, or any of Microsoft’s products and services, including Office, Outlook.com, OneDrive, Xbox Live, Microsoft 365, Family Safety, Skype, Bing, Microsoft Store and MSN."

    I don't think I need it for Bing.
    I should probably use OneDrive but I still don't.
    And I think I once used the Microsoft store (to get Powertoys I think)
    And when I was abroad a few years ago I used Skype a lot, but whatsapp
    has mostly replaced it.


    **It's a good thing I started Skype. It told me that Skype will end in
    May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.
    Did it that take my old chats with it? Only 5 of 35!
    Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53!
    Did it take my $12 credit with it? No mention of that. Even if so, I
    dont' see how I'll ever use it up as long as whatsapp exists, Skype
    would call any number, not just a cell phone***, but at 2 cents a
    minute, it would take 600 minutes, 10 hours.

    ***And one of my best friends has a cellphone, but he only takes
    cruises, with hia wife, no parents or children, so he doesn't call
    anyone when he's away, and doesn't have Whatsapp. When I wanted to make
    a video call to him, I had to settle for a voice call, but I think my Guatamala SIM included calls to the US, so it was free iirc.

    There are definitely advantages to signing in if you use more than one
    computer and want to sync your personal files across all of them, but
    not everyone wants that. Operating systems should be private by default
    with the user being given the choice to install additional components
    which do what logging in does.

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Sun Apr 6 22:19:30 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 1 Apr 2025 20:17:59 -0400,
    CrudeSausage <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-04-01 6:00 p.m., micky wrote:

    **It's a good thing I started Skype. It told me that Skype will end in
    May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.
    Did it that take my old chats with it? Only 5 of 35!

    Loads of those not copied were scam video sessions, from phoney gold,
    bitcoin and investment spammers. Probably only 5 real ones.

    Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53!

    Almost all of these look valuable. But I'm not deleting Skype so I can recreate the numbers when I want to call someone, or I can find whatever
    old info I need, at least until I stop copying its data to the later
    computers

    Did it take my $12 credit with it? No mention of that. Even if so, I

    No mention of that.

    There are definitely advantages to signing in if you use more than one >computer and want to sync your personal files across all of them, but
    not everyone wants that. Operating systems should be private by default
    with the user being given the choice to install additional components
    which do what logging in does.

    You're right.

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