• Please List Your Open Ports

    From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 15:19:03 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc

    I am curious about how many open ports the average distro exposes.

    List your open ports using the following command:

    netstat -lnptu

    Here are my open ports (I don's use a distro):

    Active Internet connections (only servers)
    Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name
    tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 215/pdnsd
    udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* 215/pdnsd

    That's all I need for my workstation.

    Note that "netstat" may not be available with that putrid abomination
    knows as systemd.

    Use whatever equivalent.


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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sun Mar 16 19:54:20 2025
    Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote:
    Note that "netstat" may not be available with that putrid abomination
    knows as systemd.

    Presence or non-presence of a netstat binary has absolutely nothing to
    do with the init system.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Mar 16 19:52:21 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:50:15 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:


    I get 12 open ports. 6 of them have status of LISTEN.


    Have no idea what these all mean.


    It means that the average distro is exposing itself to potential
    security threats.

    For a standalone workstation there should be no open ports.





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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Sun Mar 16 19:48:30 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 19:54:20 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:


    Presence or non-presence of a netstat binary has absolutely nothing to
    do with the init system.


    Non sequitur.

    Do you have any other "brilliant" though totally useless comments
    to make before you post a list of your open ports?





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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Mar 17 10:37:55 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 17:38:31 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:


    I vaguely remember asking this question before. What do you mean by a "standalone" computer?


    A "standalone" workstation is one that stands alone, i.e. it is not
    part of a network.



    I have 24x7 access to internet of course. Would that mean I'm not using
    a standalone computer?


    Essentially no, unless the Internet access makes the machine a part
    of a network.


    And since you posted this thread, I looked into closing the unneeded
    ports, and was not successful cause giving the command involved would
    not recognize the information about the port that I was giving it.


    I want to know how many open ports there are on the average distro
    machine that is not specifically being used as a server (for a good laugh).

    The Linux kernel has hundreds of configurable options for networking.
    I disable all options except the ones that are necessary to connect
    to the Internet.

    I want to know how the average distro is configured (for a good laugh).



    Then I looked whether I could find if repeated attempts have been made
    to log into my computer, and were somehow led to installing fail2ban.
    But I don't understand well enough what it exactly does and how I'm
    supposed to use it. Yet.


    You should check out tcpdump to examine what kind of traffic you
    are experiencing.




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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Mon Mar 17 16:32:17 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:


    No, this decision is a way older. In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp
    etc. were replaced by ip and ss.


    Replaced? They are still very much available:

    https://github.com/ecki/net-tools

    I use them all the time, and I am about as cutting edge as one can
    get.

    "In Linux?" This is yet another outlandish statement. The fact
    that *some* distros may have decided to use other tools does not
    lead to the conclusion that these other tools are standard "in Linux."

    But you don't know. You just use whatever your distro provides
    for you. In other words you are a LACKEY.



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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 17 17:16:13 2025
    On 16.03.2025 15:19 Uhr Farley Flud wrote:

    Note that "netstat" may not be available with that putrid abomination
    knows as systemd.

    No, this decision is a way older. In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp
    etc. were replaced by ip and ss.


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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Mar 17 19:09:02 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:34:27 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Running tcpdump gives me this error:

    tcpdump: eno1: You don't have permission to capture on that device


    You must execute tcpdump as the root user.

    On my machine I am always the root user, but the stupid distros have their
    own ridiculous security philosophy. I believe that their asinine command workaround is this:

    sudo tcpdump

    Also, read the tcpdump man page or search for tcpdump web pages.
    There is a LOT that the command can do.





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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Mon Mar 17 19:14:29 2025
    On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 15:19:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    I am curious about how many open ports the average distro exposes.

    List your open ports using the following command:

    netstat -lnptu


    What the friggin' fuck is this! No one has the goddamned fucking
    competence to list the open ports provided by their fucking distros?

    Fucking feeble lackeys!

    Go choke on the latest systemd that is shoved down your fucking
    throats!




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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Mon Mar 17 19:28:46 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:14:29 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$856c$15189f67$ce4b4dc$[email protected]>:

    competence to list the open ports

    You already admitted this was for your own amusement.

    How does it feel to "want"?

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Mon Mar 17 21:11:28 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:


    No, this decision is a way older. In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp
    etc. were replaced by ip and ss.


    Replaced? Check out the source web site:

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/files/

    This week alone, there were 1,242 downloads of the source code.

    I'd say that, unlike your rotten fucking brain, net-tools and
    netstat are alive and kicking.

    You can now ask your momma distro how to respond.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Mon Mar 17 20:45:36 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    On 16.03.2025 15:19 Uhr Farley Flud wrote:

    Note that "netstat" may not be available with that putrid abomination
    knows as systemd.

    No, this decision is a way older. In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp
    etc. were replaced by ip and ss.

    There is a special corner in hell for whoever in Microsoft decided to call ifconfig ipconfig. I invariably get it wrong regardless of which box I'm
    on at the time.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Mon Mar 17 21:38:53 2025
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 16:06:33 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:


    If you can make sense of it you're welcome to comment :)


    I'm very sorry, but any comments are not possible unless one
    understands basic IP/TCP concepts.

    You undeniably have the intelligence to grasp these concepts
    but I cannot provide any quick and easy insight.

    The only recourse is to study basic networking concepts via
    the many, many web sites that are devoted to this topic, or
    perhaps via a few books on same.





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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Tue Mar 18 05:31:14 2025
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp etc. were replaced by ip and ss.

    And then there’s BSD. Did you know the “route” command, at least in FreeBSD, allows you to modify routes, but not to list them?

    To show the routing table, you need to do “netstat -r”.

    Linux iproute2 is a model of good sense, by comparison.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Tue Mar 18 11:27:54 2025
    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 05:31:14 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:


    Did you know the “route” command, at least in
    FreeBSD, allows you to modify routes, but not to list them?

    To show the routing table, you need to do “netstat -r”.


    Shocking!

    But it gets even worse.

    Did you know that the "touch" command allows one to create files
    but not to list them? To actually list the newly created files one
    has to execute the "ls" command. It's the same for the "mkdir" command.

    Oh the horror!



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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Mar 18 23:31:06 2025
    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 05:31:14 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote in <vrb0f2$1rii3$[email protected]>:

    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:

    In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp etc. were replaced by ip and ss.

    And then there’s BSD. Did you know the “route” command, at least in FreeBSD, allows you to modify routes, but not to list them?

    To show the routing table, you need to do “netstat -r”.

    Linux iproute2 is a model of good sense, by comparison.

    I've been caught by the route/netstat -r thing on BSD myself.

    It's annoying. It's also obvious that Feeb has never had to
    administer any UNIX(r) systems with any consequence.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to vallor on Wed Mar 19 15:10:27 2025
    On 18 Mar 2025 23:31:06 GMT, vallor wrote:


    It's also obvious that Feeb has never had to
    administer any UNIX(r) systems with any consequence.


    Correct.

    Network administration is a job for pussies.

    I speak, and advocate, only for high performance computing
    on GNU/Linux workstations.


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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Wed Mar 19 23:37:40 2025
    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:10:27 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$89fed$451a18d7$5333116b$[email protected]>:

    On 18 Mar 2025 23:31:06 GMT, vallor wrote:


    It's also obvious that Feeb has never had to administer any UNIX(r)
    systems with any consequence.


    Correct.

    Network administration is a job for pussies.

    Shows what you know: that wouldn't be "network administration", it would
    be "systems administration" (or systems engineering, or systems
    architecture, depending).

    "Network administration" would be mostly talking to routers -- something
    you've never done either, apparently.

    I speak, and advocate, only for high performance computing on GNU/Linux workstations.

    I don't think you know what a "workstation" is, if you think it wouldn't
    have any services being offered to the network. My workstation, for
    example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for time machine backups from
    Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.

    That doesn't mean the services are available to the whole Internet, of
    course, because most people have a CPE that firewalls all that, as well as offers NAT. I do have an application that I occasionally run that needs
    a UDP port on the Net, and that is handled with uPnP.

    TL;DR: If you intend to have any qualifications for administering
    Linux systems, two tools for your toolbox are ip(8) and ss(8).

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Mar 20 02:30:08 2025
    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for time machine backups from
    Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.





    When did you stop beating her?

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Thu Mar 20 17:08:14 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for time machine backups from
    Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.





    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.

    https://infidels.org/library/modern/constructing-a-logical-argument/#complexq

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _
    Complex question / Fallacy of interrogation / Fallacy of presupposition

    This is the interrogative form of Begging the Question. One example
    is the classic loaded question:

    “Have you stopped beating your wife?”

    The question presupposes a definite answer to another question which
    has not even been asked. This trick is often used by lawyers in cross-examination, when they ask questions like:

    “Where did you hide the money you stole?”

    Similarly, politicians often ask loaded questions such as:

    “How long will this EU interference in our affairs be allowed to
    continue?”

    or

    “Does the Chancellor plan two more years of ruinous
    privatization?”

    Another form of this fallacy is to ask for an explanation of
    something which is untrue or not yet established.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Mar 20 13:28:29 2025
    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for time machine backups from
    Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.

    >
    >
    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.



    In your case it's likely sibling rivalry.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Thu Mar 20 17:46:10 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:28:29 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrhj7s$2648u$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote
    in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for
    time machine backups from Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.


    >
    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.



    In your case it's likely sibling rivalry.

    Here, this should help you feel better about yourself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_YJupGNMA

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Mar 20 14:19:05 2025
    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:28:29 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrhj7s$2648u$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote
    in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for
    time machine backups from Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.


    >
    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.



    In your case it's likely sibling rivalry.

    Here, this should help you feel better about yourself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_YJupGNMA


    "Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up your poopshoot."

    "I ain't no nigmund no more."

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Thu Mar 20 19:23:15 2025
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:19:05 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrhm6o$26920$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:28:29 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote
    in <vrhj7s$2648u$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]>
    wrote in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for >>>>>> time machine backups from Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.



    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.



    In your case it's likely sibling rivalry.

    Here, this should help you feel better about yourself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_YJupGNMA


    "Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up your poopshoot."

    "I ain't no nigmund no more."

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)

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  • From Andy Gerald@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri Mar 21 07:12:15 2025
    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 14:19:05 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote in <vrhm6o$26920$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 13:28:29 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]> wrote
    in <vrhj7s$2648u$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 02:30:08 -0400, Andy Gerald <[email protected]>
    wrote in <vrgclf$249hp$[email protected]>:

    vallor wrote:
    My workstation, for example, runs Samba with the "fruit" plugin for >>>>>>> time machine backups from Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio.



    When did you stop beating her?

    I see I have schooled you in that logical fallacy.



    In your case it's likely sibling rivalry.

    Here, this should help you feel better about yourself.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_YJupGNMA


    "Ram it, ram it, ram it, ram it up your poopshoot."

    "I ain't no nigmund no more."

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)


    403.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Andy Gerald on Fri Mar 21 19:11:42 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:12:15 -0400, Andy Gerald wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)


    403.


    Gentlemen, gentlemen.

    Need I remind you that this is a forum for GNU/Linux discussion/adulation
    and not a juvenile playground?

    Do not pollute my wonderful thread with you preschool idiocy.


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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Mar 21 19:39:18 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:11:42 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$3fff2$a0149986$d0c45f14$[email protected]>:

    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:12:15 -0400, Andy Gerald wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb won't use
    that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)


    403.


    Gentlemen, gentlemen.

    Need I remind you that this is a forum for GNU/Linux
    discussion/adulation and not a juvenile playground?

    Do not pollute my wonderful thread with you preschool idiocy.

    Maybe it's not an HTTP code.

    Maybe he's running a service on port 403.

    Didja think of that, Hot Shot?

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri Mar 21 20:15:53 2025
    On 21 Mar 2025 19:39:18 GMT, vallor wrote:


    Maybe it's not an HTTP code.

    Maybe he's running a service on port 403.


    On GNU/Linux, the definitive list of services is contained
    within the file /etc/services and "403" is not listed.

    Unless the chuckle head is running his own custom service,
    which is highly unlikely, then "403" indicates the usual
    meaning.


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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Mar 21 21:13:52 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 20:15:53 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$1b36a$1dbc3920$2da1d9a4$[email protected]>:

    On 21 Mar 2025 19:39:18 GMT, vallor wrote:


    Maybe it's not an HTTP code.

    Maybe he's running a service on port 403.


    On GNU/Linux, the definitive list of services is contained within the
    file /etc/services and "403" is not listed.

    NO! Really?


    Unless the chuckle head is running his own custom service,
    which is highly unlikely, then "403" indicates the usual meaning.

    # ss -lupn | grep ':403 '
    UNCONN 0 0 0.0.0.0:403
    0.0.0.0:* users:(("Farley's_FUD",pid=26932,fd=3))

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Mar 21 21:36:43 2025
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 21:29:31 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$68c7b$f6671d98$a4d3498e$[email protected]>:

    On 21 Mar 2025 21:13:52 GMT, vallor wrote:


    NO! Really?


    YES! Really.

    $ sudo ./"Feeb can't detect sarcasm." 403

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    OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc7 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 21:49:46 2025
    Le 21-03-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:12:15 -0400, Andy Gerald wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)


    403.


    Gentlemen, gentlemen.

    Here? Are you high on drugs?

    Need I remind you that this is a forum for GNU/Linux discussion/adulation
    and not a juvenile playground?

    What are you doing here if it's real?

    Do not pollute my wonderful thread with you preschool idiocy.

    They are cleansing, not polluting it.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri Mar 21 21:29:31 2025
    On 21 Mar 2025 21:13:52 GMT, vallor wrote:


    NO! Really?


    YES! Really.


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 21 21:42:23 2025
    Le 17-03-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 17:16:13 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:


    No, this decision is a way older. In Linux, the ipconfig, netstat, arp
    etc. were replaced by ip and ss.


    Replaced?

    Yep.

    They are still very much available:

    So what? You can still find and use the kernel 1.0. Even if it has been replaced by a lot of other versions.

    https://github.com/ecki/net-tools

    I use them all the time,

    I don't believe that. There is no GUI and it needs technical skills to
    use them: it's well beyond your ability.

    and I am about as cutting edge as one can get.

    Nope. You are only cutting your fingers when you try to use a knife. You
    are well in the past because anything too modern is well beyond your intellectual capacities.

    "In Linux?" This is yet another outlandish statement. The fact
    that *some* distros may have decided to use other tools does not
    lead to the conclusion that these other tools are standard "in Linux."

    Like it or not: they are.

    But you don't know. You just use whatever your distro provides
    for you. In other words you are a LACKEY.

    It sounds like you who have many python versions installed on your
    computer because your distro is forcing you to use it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 11:13:02 2025
    Le 22-03-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On 21 Mar 2025 21:42:23 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    They are still very much available:

    So what? You can still find and use the kernel 1.0. Even if it has been
    replaced by a lot of other versions.

    https://github.com/ecki/net-tools


    Check out the sourceforge page:

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/files/

    There are 1,155 downloads for THIS WEEK alone, and at least
    4K downloads per month for recent months. That's a LOT
    of downloads.

    Yes, I know, the IA are crawling the websites which is a serious issue
    for FOSS infrastructure. <https://thelibre.news/foss-infrastructure-is-under-attack-by-ai-companies/> So, what do you want to prove?

    Just because a helpless distro lackey like you cannot exercise
    choice does not mean that others cannot exercise choice.

    You just proved, once again, you don't know what a distro is.

    Remember: YOU do not use GNU/Linux.

    Understand (I know you can't, it's a way of speaking): in fact, I do.

    YOU use a distro which uses GNU/Linux for you.

    No. My distro uses nothing. My distro only give me a way to install it
    and to install software and their dependencies assuring compatibility
    between them. It does nothing beyond that.

    You are a helpless lackey.

    I'm not the one complaining about python installed against my willing on
    my computer. I'm not the one complaining about the impacts of
    freedesktop choices on my computer. So, you claim I'm the lackey when
    you prove with half of your messages that you are the lackey unable to
    run your computer as you want. You are the helpless user who can only
    blame everyone else for his inability to use his computer. Don't switch
    sides.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 22 10:48:12 2025
    On 21 Mar 2025 21:42:23 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    They are still very much available:

    So what? You can still find and use the kernel 1.0. Even if it has been replaced by a lot of other versions.

    https://github.com/ecki/net-tools


    Check out the sourceforge page:

    https://sourceforge.net/projects/net-tools/files/

    There are 1,155 downloads for THIS WEEK alone, and at least
    4K downloads per month for recent months. That's a LOT
    of downloads.

    Just because a helpless distro lackey like you cannot exercise
    choice does not mean that others cannot exercise choice.

    Remember: YOU do not use GNU/Linux. YOU use a distro which uses
    GNU/Linux for you. You are a helpless lackey.





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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Mar 22 12:09:14 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 07:54:12 -0400, Rudy Canoza wrote:


    Unmoderated newsgroup, I'd suggest you fuck right off, assclown.


    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Another Ubuntu lackey rears his ugly head.

    I suggest that you use the Ubuntu AI assistant to help you
    construct insults. Your pathetic natural endowment needs
    all the help that it can get.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!





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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sat Mar 22 07:54:12 2025
    Farley Flud wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:12:15 -0400, Andy Gerald wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports. (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)

    >
    403.


    Gentlemen, gentlemen.

    Need I remind you that this is a forum for GNU/Linux discussion/adulation
    and not a juvenile playground?

    Do not pollute my wonderful thread with you preschool idiocy.


    Unmoderated newsgroup, I'd suggest you fuck right off, assclown.

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  • From CrudeSausage@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sat Mar 22 08:28:29 2025
    On 2025-03-22 7:54 a.m., Rudy Canoza wrote:
    Farley Flud wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:12:15 -0400, Andy Gerald wrote:

    vallor wrote:

    In that case: Please List Your Open Ports.  (I'm sure Feeb
    won't use that info for anything nefarious, no way, not that guy.)

      >
    403.


    Gentlemen, gentlemen.

    Need I remind you that this is a forum for GNU/Linux discussion/adulation
    and not a juvenile playground?

    Do not pollute my wonderful thread with you preschool idiocy.


    Unmoderated newsgroup, I'd suggest you fuck right off, assclown.

    +1

    --
    God be with you,

    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6

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  • From L Thorpe@21:1/5 to CrudeSausage on Sat Mar 22 14:09:00 2025
    On Sat, 22 Mar 2025 08:28:29 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:


    +1


    The "Moldy Bologna" is showing off his mathematical skills.

    His profound statement represents the pinnacle thereof.

    In a few years (decades?) he will be able to complete
    1 + 1 = 2.

    Let's send him off to the "International Mathematical Olympiad:"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mathematical_Olympiad

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Thu Mar 27 20:00:03 2025
    Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote at 19:09 this Monday (GMT):
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:34:27 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Running tcpdump gives me this error:

    tcpdump: eno1: You don't have permission to capture on that device


    You must execute tcpdump as the root user.

    On my machine I am always the root user, but the stupid distros have their own ridiculous security philosophy. I believe that their asinine command workaround is this:

    sudo tcpdump

    I think that's considered bad practice, but it's your machine..

    Also, read the tcpdump man page or search for tcpdump web pages.
    There is a LOT that the command can do.


    Thanks, this program seems super cool! IDK if I'll use it for anything productive, but it'll be cool to see.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Mar 27 23:00:03 2025
    vallor <[email protected]> wrote at 17:08 this Thursday (GMT):
    [snip]
    The question presupposes a definite answer to another question which
    has not even been asked. This trick is often used by lawyers in cross-examination, when they ask questions like:

    “Where did you hide the money you stole?”
    [snip]

    I thought leading questions weren't allowed.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 31 17:50:04 2025
    Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> wrote at 13:49 this Sunday (GMT):
    Le 27-03-2025, candycanearter07 <[email protected]> a écrit :
    Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote at 19:09 this Monday (GMT):
    sudo tcpdump

    I think that's considered bad practice,

    Of course it is.

    but it's your machine..

    As long as only his pet dog the terrorist is following his advices, it's
    not important.

    Also, read the tcpdump man page or search for tcpdump web pages.
    There is a LOT that the command can do.


    Thanks, this program seems super cool! IDK if I'll use it for anything
    productive, but it'll be cool to see.

    The good part with tcpdump is for automating tasks, but if you want to
    use it interactively, you should use wireshark instead.


    Oh, thanks! Again, I /probably/ won't need it for anything though.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 6 08:33:38 2025
    Le 31-03-2025, candycanearter07 <[email protected]> a écrit :
    Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> wrote at 13:49 this Sunday (GMT):

    The good part with tcpdump is for automating tasks, but if you want to
    use it interactively, you should use wireshark instead.

    Oh, thanks! Again, I /probably/ won't need it for anything though.

    Try it once. You launch it and go away from your computer. Then when you
    come back, you stop it and see what happen on your computer. You can see interesting things. A long time ago, when I did that, I discovered that
    Firefox was sending information by default. I deactivated the option in FireFox, ran it again and saw that the deactivation was good.

    It's a good way to be sure programs don't do things you don't like
    without your knowledge.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 6 09:40:14 2025
    Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Le 31-03-2025, candycanearter07 <[email protected]> a écrit :
    Stéphane CARPENTIER <[email protected]> wrote at 13:49 this Sunday (GMT): >>>
    The good part with tcpdump is for automating tasks, but if you want to
    use it interactively, you should use wireshark instead.

    Oh, thanks! Again, I /probably/ won't need it for anything though.

    Try it once. You launch it and go away from your computer. Then when you
    come back, you stop it and see what happen on your computer. You can see interesting things. A long time ago, when I did that, I discovered that Firefox was sending information by default. I deactivated the option in FireFox, ran it again and saw that the deactivation was good.

    It's a good way to be sure programs don't do things you don't like
    without your knowledge.

    A cool GUI tool is etherape. Watch it explode when you load a
    newsy web site.

    --
    "Don't discount flying pigs before you have good air defense."
    -- [email protected]

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