• Low Quality People: The Proof

    From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 12:57:06 2025
    Low quality people don't read books.

    Name the book or books that you are currently reading.

    Here's mine:

    "The Philosophy of Space and Time," Hans Reichenbach
    Dover Publications, 1958

    "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
    Chapman and Hall, 2019

    Now list yours.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Don't go away mad, just go away.


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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 13:52:26 2025
    On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 12:57:06 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]>
    wrote in <1819078b4e833630$34272$1948878$[email protected]>:

    Low quality people don't read books.

    Name the book or books that you are currently reading.

    Here's mine:

    "The Philosophy of Space and Time," Hans Reichenbach
    Dover Publications, 1958

    "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
    Chapman and Hall, 2019

    Now list yours.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Don't go away mad, just go away.

    When someone makes these sorts of blurts, I suggest they run:

    $ /usr/libexec/xscreensaver/xjack

    ...and then stare at the screen until they are enlightened.

    ObLinux: later on today, we're setting up Mrs. vallor's new Linux
    workstation in her office. It already has Mint 21.3 on it, but
    I'm bumping that up to Mint 22 for better WiFi happiness. Still
    going to use X11, with XFCE, and adding Cairo Dock so she doesn't
    feel like a stranger.

    Her own Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS is ready to be plugged in for Elite
    Dangerous Odyssey goodness. We had it running on her iMac before (under Windows), and she's already flown successfully. Also keeping an eye on Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 for when it gets a little more stable on Linux.

    Fine, I'll answer your question:

    Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian
    Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.

    Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr. The Missus was interested in my description of a murder mystery set on the moon, so we're about to read _The Patchwork Girl_ in our very own "book club of two".

    A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their
    computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.

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  • From DFS@21:1/5 to Low Quality Larry Piet on Thu Jan 9 08:45:02 2025
    On 1/9/2025 7:57 AM, Low Quality Larry Piet wrote:

    Low quality people ...

    Live off their Mom their entire lives.

    Exceptionally low quality people have no shame about doing so.

    You're exceptionally low quality.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Jan 9 09:53:17 2025
    On 1/9/25 8:52 AM, vallor wrote:
    ...

    ObLinux: later on today, we're setting up Mrs. vallor's new Linux
    workstation in her office. It already has Mint 21.3 on it, but
    I'm bumping that up to Mint 22 for better WiFi happiness. Still
    going to use X11, with XFCE, and adding Cairo Dock so she doesn't
    feel like a stranger.

    Her own Logitech X52 Pro HOTAS is ready to be plugged in for Elite
    Dangerous Odyssey goodness. We had it running on her iMac before (under Windows), and she's already flown successfully. Also keeping an eye on Microsoft Flight Sim 2024 for when it gets a little more stable on Linux.

    My obLinux update is that the NAS's RAM upgrade went fine. Still
    haven't gotten around to benchmarking any performance changes yet.


    Fine, I'll answer your question:

    Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian
    Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.

    Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr. The Missus was interested in my description of a murder mystery set on the moon, so we're about to read _The Patchwork Girl_ in our very own "book club of two".

    A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their
    computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.

    The newly updated (new commentaries by Jason Zweig) 3rd Edition of
    Benjamin Graham's "The Intelligent Investor"...

    plus Lawson Wood's "Shipwrecks of the Cayman Island". It reportedly had information on a particular site, but appears to have been incorrect.


    -hh

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Thu Jan 9 11:05:16 2025
    Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Low quality people don't read books.

    Name the book or books that you are currently reading.

    Here's mine:

    "The Philosophy of Space and Time," Hans Reichenbach
    Dover Publications, 1958

    "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
    Chapman and Hall, 2019

    Now list yours.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Here come the "Alien Space Invaders From Planet Slime."

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

    Don't go away mad, just go away.

    I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local library. I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one science or another.

    Occasionally a book won't pan out, and I'll stop reading it.

    A man ought to read just as inclination leads him, for what he reads as a
    task will do him little good. -- Samuel Johnson

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu Jan 9 20:59:03 2025
    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:05:16 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local library. I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one
    science or another.


    That's great!

    But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
    e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

    I won't tell you how, but you should be able to acquire any
    book published in the last 75-years (a lot have been scanned)
    gratis within 20 minutes or so.

    Information wants to be free and it shall be free.

    Thanks to GNU/Linux, it is possible for anyone to produce
    a publication quality book and then publish the same on
    a web site.

    The only problem is the cranks.

    For example, on sci.physics, a notorious crank with the nym
    "Archimedes Plutonium" has actually published books on Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/stores/Archimedes-Plutonium/author/B089QBZX8W

    Only a fool would ever buy them.

    But publishing now belongs to the individual author and not
    the grubbing publishing companies.


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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to vallor on Thu Jan 9 21:09:21 2025
    On 9 Jan 2025 13:52:26 GMT, vallor wrote:


    Last tech book I read was _UNIX: A History and a Memoir_ by Brian
    Kernighan, which I finished on our flight to Costa Rica.


    Great!


    Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.


    I don't approve of fiction.

    The world in which we exist is far too stimulating to have
    to waste time with (someone else's) fantasies.


    A lot of people do plenty of reading nowadays -- it's just at their
    computer instead of dead trees, and it's not always dry textbooks.


    Of course, idiot.

    All books nowadays are e-books.

    And what is "dry" to you is stimulating to others.

    But the claim that "a lot of people do plenty of reading" should be
    modified to "a lot of people read unedifying trash."

    FTFY.

    Now get back to your comics.

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Jan 10 00:09:00 2025
    On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 20:59:03 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
    e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

    The local library has a large digital collection. There is an app, libby,
    that allows you to search the collection and download the books. Some go directly to the libby app, others are routed to your kindle via Amazon.

    https://libbyapp.com/interview/welcome#doYouHaveACard

    The new library has considerably more floor space than the old, including
    a maker space, av, childrens' area, meeting rooms, a demo kitchen area,
    and so forth. I'm not convinced there are any more hardcopy books than
    before the move but they're not as crowded on the shelves.

    Even before the new library digital material, including DVDs, was slowly growing in importance.

    Back in the '60s one of my senior projects was sort of a thought
    experiment on how automated information retrieval in a library could be implemented. The assumption was the data would be on microfiche. About 15
    years ago when the library installed a DVD retrieval system something like
    the defunct RedBox kiosks it looked very familiar.

    Like many technical advancements the idea was there but it had to wait on components to become available like aviation waited on light weight power sources.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Jan 10 07:01:57 2025
    Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:05:16 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:


    I've been checking out 2 to 3 books every 3 weeks, roughly, from the local >> library. I won't list the books, but they involve mostly stuff related to one
    science or another.


    That's great!

    But the local library is not the best source for books, i.e.
    e-books (all books nowadays are e-books).

    I have "purchased" some books from Barnes and Noble. Including some old science fiction. "Bug Jack Barron", "Space War Blues", "A Feast Unknown", "Lord Tyger".

    Plenty of good reads available on Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg Australia. I have a soft spot for the (predictable) adventures of
    Edgar Rice Burroughs.

    Often enough a book can be found in PDF format by simple googling.

    I won't tell you how, but you should be able to acquire any
    book published in the last 75-years (a lot have been scanned)
    gratis within 20 minutes or so.

    I downloaded the famous "Gravitation" book (Kip Thorne et al) but now
    they inundate me with spam.

    Information wants to be free and it shall be free.

    Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.
    For example, Michael Kerrisk's 1000-page book on "The Linux Programming Interface". Easy to search and far easier to move back and forth.
    Not to mention one can glance between two pages easily.

    Thanks to GNU/Linux, it is possible for anyone to produce
    a publication quality book and then publish the same on
    a web site.

    The only problem is the cranks.

    For example, on sci.physics, a notorious crank with the nym
    "Archimedes Plutonium" has actually published books on Amazon:

    https://www.amazon.com/stores/Archimedes-Plutonium/author/B089QBZX8W

    Only a fool would ever buy them.

    But publishing now belongs to the individual author and not
    the grubbing publishing companies.

    Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.

    When I lived in LA, I would go to this place, now, sadly, closed:

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/opamp-technical-books-los-angeles-2

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Jan 10 20:26:04 2025
    On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 07:01:57 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    Nonetheless, sometimes a hardcopy purchased from a publisher is best.
    For example, Michael Kerrisk's 1000-page book on "The Linux Programming Interface". Easy to search and far easier to move back and forth.
    Not to mention one can glance between two pages easily.

    I do miss that part of hardcopy books. While you can bookmark electronic
    texts it isn't the same. For programming books code examples may be poorly formatted or difficult to read.

    Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
    days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
    switch.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to rbowman on Fri Jan 10 20:39:30 2025
    On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:


    Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
    days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
    switch.


    Can't you afford a fucking generator?

    An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
    would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

    No mudslides, hurricanes, earthquakes, or tornadoes could destroy
    a house as quickly as several tons of "hardcopy" books.




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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Fri Jan 10 16:31:44 2025
    Farley Flud wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:

    Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
    days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
    switch.

    Can't you afford a fucking generator?

    An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
    would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

    The books are required *serially*.

    No mudslides, hurricanes, earthquakes, or tornadoes could destroy
    a house as quickly as several tons of "hardcopy" books.

    Whatever. I don't need a ton of hardcover books. Just a few key ones that I count on fairly often (Linux, C++ mainly).

    When I was a teenager I had a bookshelf full of books. As I moved from place to place I pared the number down substantially.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sat Jan 11 02:51:22 2025
    On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:39:30 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

    On 10 Jan 2025 20:26:04 GMT, rbowman wrote:


    Hardcopy doesn't need batteries either. When the power was out for six
    days last summer sitting under the tree reading real books was a nice
    switch.


    Can't you afford a fucking generator?'

    Sure, but why? The stove is gas. I didn't have that much in the
    refrigerator that really needed to be there. I don't have A/C. In July
    it's light until around 10 PM. I had plenty of drinking water.

    An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

    I've probably read tens of thousands of books in my life. I certainly
    don't have to own them. As is, I've got too damn many.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Jan 11 11:08:27 2025
    On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:24:07 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:



    Some types of books must be in hardcopy. Math books. Physics books.
    Computer programming books. Grammar books. It has to do with what you do
    with it.


    Why? What do you do with them?

    Decent PDF, or other ebook, software should allow the addition
    of notes, comments, attachments, and a lot of other stuff directly
    into the e-file. In fact, one could add huge amounts of commentary
    to an e-book, commentary that would normally be hidden but could be
    invoked via a popup window, and this is something that could never
    be done with a paper book.

    Some people will claim that a paper book is more comfortable to read
    and this was my conclusion when I first began reading e-books.
    But over time I have grown so accustomed to the e-book format that
    I actually greatly prefer e-bboks over the paper kind.

    Also, building a library of paper books may be a satisfying accomplishment
    but then try relocating to a different home or apartment. One will
    need to hire 100-ton cranes and 18-wheel flatbed trucks to move the
    load.



    I do a lot with a hardcopy book that enriches it and turns it into an extremely useful and fast reference. The electronic forms lack that
    feature.


    See above.

    With experience, one can learn to do the same sorts of enrichment to
    e-books that would even be more useful and faster.

    Paper books, like photographic film and vinyl music recordings, are
    dead. Currently they may be a "walking dead" but it is only a
    matter of time before they collapse completely.

    This is the new world, the new age, and the new way. One must learn
    to do everything digitally.





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 11:50:00 2025
    Le 09-01-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    On 9 Jan 2025 13:52:26 GMT, vallor wrote:

    Currently reading _Ecolitan Prime_ by L.E. Modesitt, Jr.


    I don't approve of fiction.

    Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
    develop imagination. And the imagination is the most important thing for
    an artist. And imagination is the most important thing for a scientist.
    Which explains why, unlike your continuous claims, you are not an
    artist.

    The world in which we exist is far too stimulating to have
    to waste time with (someone else's) fantasies.

    You found time to waste staring blankly at your computer trying to
    compile your kernel. At least, developing your imagination would help
    you to improve the quality of your insults.

    Of course, idiot.

    You se? Once again. No imagination. No quality. Nothing but the same
    word used again and again.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 11:54:12 2025
    Le 10-01-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    An intelligent person requires tens of thousands of books and that
    would equate to several TONS of "hardcopy."

    You see? You proved, once again, that you don't read book, in your
    entire life you would struggle to only read the titles of tens of
    thousands of books. Reading them all is impossible. There is no way, you
    don't have the time to. It's impressive that each claim you do about
    yourself is a proof of your lie.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 12:01:35 2025
    On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
    develop imagination.


    Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."

    Play is fiction -- living fiction.

    But then eventually childhood, and the concurrent playing, will
    end. We then become adults and turn our attention to the
    real, objective world. There is no more play. There is no
    more fiction.

    A lot of people, including YOU, never had much of a chance
    at childhood play. They, including YOU, were far too supervised
    and inhibited. Consequently, they, and YOU, can only begin
    to freely play, through fiction, as adults. It's sad.
    It's pathetic.

    Now get back to your games, little boy (i.e. idiot).

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!





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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 12:03:34 2025
    Le 11-01-2025, rbowman <[email protected]> a écrit :

    I've probably read tens of thousands of books in my life.

    I don't believe that. It would mean a book each day of your life. It
    would mean you do almost nothing else than reading in your life. So, it
    would mean being paid to read books. A book a week is something a good
    reader could do but it means spending almost all of his spare time
    reading. And it's doesn't count in tens of thousands of books, but in thousands.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?St=C3=A9phane?= CARPENTIE@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 11 11:43:40 2025
    Le 09-01-2025, Farley Flud <[email protected]> a écrit :
    Low quality people don't read books.

    I already knew you don't read books.

    Here's mine:

    "The Philosophy of Space and Time," Hans Reichenbach
    Dover Publications, 1958

    "The Shape of Space," Jeffrey R. Weeks
    Chapman and Hall, 2019

    I don't believe that. Maybe you found them, but you don't read them.
    Just turning the pages isn't reading. You just can't understand them.

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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Jan 11 20:13:51 2025
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:31:38 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:



    For one, electronic books chain you to a desktop and from there to your electric receptacles on the wall, your house, the electric company, and whether you have paid your electric bill or not.


    So what? The desktop is where everything happens in the modern world.
    There is no way to escape the desktop.



    The only electronic choice you have is really with the desktop, and it
    may not look like it but it is as big as the whole power grid in your
    region.


    If the power grid were to ever fail, permanently, then that would
    indicate that civilization itself was failing. It wouldn't just
    be the power grid, but also the natural gas lines, the food supply,
    the medical supply, etc., etc. One would be fucked from all
    directions. There would be no time for books. All effort would
    be directed toward keeping your jealous neighbors from ransacking
    you property.

    But civilization will not fail. I have faith that the power will
    always be available and I will be comfortable with my e-books at my
    desktop.


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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Jan 11 20:30:44 2025
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:44:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France,
    they are about 5 times more so.


    You are not joking.

    I often drive through the American suburbs, with their neatly groomed
    streets and houses, and I will ask myself: "Where do these kids play?"

    I grew up in a working class area next to an industrial zone and the
    railroad yards. There were many empty fields and in the late afternoon,
    after closing time, a kid could go wild with play opportunity.

    And we did.

    At one point we even attempted to dig a tunnel under the train
    tracks but our adventure was discovered by the railroad employees
    and we had to abandon it.

    We had so much much wild play it would take years to even describe
    it all.

    But that's all in the past. Now I am an adult and a scientist/
    engineer. I don't need stupid games nor fiction because I've done
    it all already.

    I pity the readers of fiction.

    I pity the players of games.

    They are just frustrated children.


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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Jan 11 22:07:56 2025
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:14:43 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    Just south of Mexican border here, every single year, some cro-magnons disappear, then a week or two later only their heads are found. Never
    the rest of the body. The heads, often, have chicken legs hammered into
    their ear canals with the paws sticking out on both sides.


    I dunno, but some of those Hispanic bitches are hot as fuck.

    I wish more would come up here, to displace all the pale and
    wan white bitches, but the bald-headed, pot-bellied Republicans
    are opposed.





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  • From Farley Flud@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Jan 11 22:23:31 2025
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 16:01:41 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 1/11/25 2:30 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:44:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:


    American households are like military barracks for kids. And in France,
    they are about 5 times more so.


    You are not joking.

    I often drive through the American suburbs, with their neatly groomed
    streets and houses, and I will ask myself: "Where do these kids play?"

    I grew up in a working class area next to an industrial zone and the
    railroad yards. There were many empty fields and in the late afternoon,
    after closing time, a kid could go wild with play opportunity.

    And we did.

    At one point we even attempted to dig a tunnel under the train
    tracks but our adventure was discovered by the railroad employees
    and we had to abandon it.

    We had so much much wild play it would take years to even describe
    it all.

    But that's all in the past. Now I am an adult and a scientist/
    engineer. I don't need stupid games nor fiction because I've done
    it all already.

    I pity the readers of fiction.

    I pity the players of games.

    They are just frustrated children.




    That's nothing compared with what we did around the age of 5 in Tehran.
    One was, making bombs :) I mean stuff strong enough to blow a 30 kg
    stone placed on top of it fly upward three stories high. So when I say
    bomb, I'm really not exaggerating.

    The hardest ingredient to find in making them was the "kolorate
    potasiyom" (Potassium Chlorate). Everything else was easy to find. For sulfur, we used our little hand made slingshots to knock off the white porcelain insulators off of the top of utility poles. Inside them, you'd always find a large amount of sulfur. For powdered charcoal we just
    smashed charcoal to a fine powder. In those days, many people have not
    yet migrated to electric heaters. People used charcoal in their "Korsi"s
    for the winter period and for cooking in other periods of the year. It
    was always available, and was among the usual items that every house purchased from stores and bazars.

    But for the damn potassium chlorate we had to walk to two neighborhoods
    away to a pharmacy that was owned and operated by Jews. Only that
    pharmacy sold us potassium chlorate, knowing full well why we were
    buying them. Other ones much closer to us, would not sell it to kids, considering them too dangerous.

    That mixture created gun powder, and it was one of the ways for us to
    create bombs with. We had four or five different ways of making bombs,
    using even a certain brand of movie reels of film which were sold to
    kids for looking at the negative pictures against a source of light, but
    we also used them to make bombs with, cause they were extremely flammable.

    And every now and then, some site would begin construction, and we'd get
    the material we needed for CO2 based bombs in there placed right on the grounds, easily taken during night. Often in same sites one could find
    empty sturdy strong bottles that held thinners and acetone, etc. These bottles were part of the bomb design :) And when they exploded, boy, the scene of everything around it was something to see and enjoy. Hehe :)

    On rare occasions, some stupid kid would even throw one of them over the
    wall into the yard of a Baha'i neighbor at the instigation of some
    suckers much older than us... it was not good and we kids would not
    condone it at all because that would mean the end of our fun that day.
    We had to run. Within 15 minutes the alley would get filled with police.

    I have said nothing of a myriad of other strange things we did. Climbing trees through the branches of which naked live power lines passed.
    Running on top of high walls along their whole stretch, sometimes a kid coming down to ground accompanied with half of the wall! And we had
    "kids' Jihad!".. the assyrian neighborhood (they were christian) was a
    short walking distance away. Oh, we were rough. Strange that any of us
    got passed that period unharmed.

    Fantastic! Thanks for reporting.

    The closest that we got to actual bombs was using fireworks, like
    hammerheads and cherry bombs, which are actually quite powerful,
    to blow apart telephone poles.

    And I agree. Strange that any of us got past that period unharmed.

    But we must not stray from the main point.

    Most kids today, sadly, will not freely play. They will instead grow
    up to be gamers and readers of fiction.


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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Farley Flud on Sun Jan 12 14:40:29 2025
    On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:01:35 +0000, Farley Flud <[email protected]> wrote in <pan$9307c$84553a07$c8e629dc$[email protected]>:

    On 11 Jan 2025 11:50:00 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:


    Of course, you can't approve anything what's important. Fiction help
    develop imagination.


    Only during childhood during those periods that we call "play."

    The Bard is not "for children".

    And when it comes to fiction: you certainly write enough of it.

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