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    From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 5 18:29:43 2025
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    Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
    of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
    well.
    Do democrats have any common sense?

    'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
    new toll.'

    <https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>

    'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
    northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'

    'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends anymore.

    Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
    into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their
    rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan, concerned residents told The Post.

    The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street
    tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
    scouring for free parking spots.'

    '“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
    Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
    Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.

    Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s street parking, she added.'

    '“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],” Mason said.

    The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
    problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'

    'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
    taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because
    it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will
    continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.

    The outer boroughs are also panicking.

    Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
    ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
    fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
    upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'

    'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to
    Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
    gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
    the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
    Democrats.

    Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
    noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.

    Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at
    USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next
    few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
    parking.

    “Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
    days they might not.”'

    'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on
    NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running
    for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
    boroughs looking for prized parking spots.

    “My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,” said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion
    in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”

    Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
    East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.

    “People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed said.'

    'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
    streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro
    Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the
    lower level to 1st Avenue.

    But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating
    a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '

    'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
    covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
    but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue
    riders once congestion pricing is in effect.

    There is at least one cheat code available.

    Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
    toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
    one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
    entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'

    'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,”
    told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to
    eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving
    toll evaders.

    “We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes
    into effect or not,” he said last week.

    The MTA declined to comment.'

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  • From Too Damned Funny!@21:1/5 to John Smyth on Sun Jan 5 17:23:42 2025
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    On 1/5/2025 3:29 PM, John Smyth wrote:
    Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
    of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
    well.
    Do democrats have any common sense?

    'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
    new toll.'

    <https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>

    'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
    northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'

    'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends anymore.

    Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
    into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan, concerned residents told The Post.

    The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
    scouring for free parking spots.'

    '“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
    Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
    Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.

    Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s street parking, she added.'

    '“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],” Mason said.

    The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
    problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'

    'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
    taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.

    The outer boroughs are also panicking.

    Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
    ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
    fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
    upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'

    'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
    gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
    the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
    Democrats.

    Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
    noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.

    Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
    parking.

    “Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
    days they might not.”'

    'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
    boroughs looking for prized parking spots.

    “My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,”
    said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion
    in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”

    Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
    East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.

    “People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed said.'

    'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
    streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the lower level to 1st Avenue.

    But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating
    a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '

    'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
    covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
    but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue riders once congestion pricing is in effect.

    There is at least one cheat code available.

    Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
    toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
    one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
    entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'

    'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,” told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving toll evaders.

    “We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes into effect or not,” he said last week.

    The MTA declined to comment.'

    Hochul is DEI incarnate and proof that liberals fail to consider the end results of their decision making.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 6 01:38:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns XPost: misc.immigration.usa

    On 2025-01-06, Too Damned Funny! <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 1/5/2025 3:29 PM, John Smyth wrote:
    Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
    of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
    well.
    Do democrats have any common sense?

    'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
    new toll.'

    <https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>

    'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
    northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'

    'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends
    anymore.

    Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
    into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their
    rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan,
    concerned residents told The Post.

    The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street
    tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
    scouring for free parking spots.'

    '“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our
    district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
    Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
    Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.

    Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s
    street parking, she added.'

    '“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of >> traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],” >> Mason said.

    The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
    problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'

    'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
    taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because
    it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of
    Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will
    continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.

    The outer boroughs are also panicking.

    Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
    ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
    fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own
    drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
    upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'

    'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to
    Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
    gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC >> Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
    the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
    Democrats.

    Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
    noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and >> Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.

    Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at
    USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next >> few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re >> better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
    parking.

    “Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said >> Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
    days they might not.”'

    'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on
    NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running >> for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
    boroughs looking for prized parking spots.

    “My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,”
    said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion >> in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”

    Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
    East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.

    “People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed
    said.'

    'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
    streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro
    Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the
    lower level to 1st Avenue.

    But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating >> a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '

    'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
    covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
    but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue
    riders once congestion pricing is in effect.

    There is at least one cheat code available.

    Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
    toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
    one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
    entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'

    'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,” >> told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to
    eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving
    toll evaders.

    “We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes >> into effect or not,” he said last week.

    The MTA declined to comment.'

    Hochul is DEI incarnate and proof that liberals fail to consider the end results of their decision making.

    Logic says Hochul will be voted out of office next election however the libby elites
    in NYC don't give a hoot about paying extra money so much like
    voting in Adams after DeBalsio destroyed the city they will line up behind her and push her into office.

    As for this fee to enter NYC, the outer boroughs are already overloaded with people parking and when you have alternate side of the street parking so
    the streets can be cleaned, it cuts the number of parking spots in half for several days a week.

    I suspect fake tags, tag blockers and so forth are going to be a brisk business.



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