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  • Re: Torvalds Slams Theoretical Security

    From Johann Beretta@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed Jan 29 00:06:32 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

    On 10/22/24 06:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    well a lot of Muricans seem to be in favour of letting Putin destroy Ukraine  so tthey pay 21c a year less in income tax.

    You're a fuckin' retard.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Johann Beretta on Wed Jan 29 10:21:17 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

    On 29/01/2025 08:06, Johann Beretta wrote:
    On 10/22/24 06:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    well a lot of Muricans seem to be in favour of letting Putin destroy
    Ukraine  so tthey pay 21c a year less in income tax.

    You're a fuckin' retard.


    Hit the mark did I?

    --
    Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle
    more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump
    their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the
    battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is
    that they are dead.
    Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Johann Beretta on Wed Jan 29 15:21:07 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

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    On Wed, 29 Jan 2025, Johann Beretta wrote:

    On 10/22/24 06:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


    well a lot of Muricans seem to be in favour of letting Putin destroy
    Ukraine  so tthey pay 21c a year less in income tax.

    You're a fuckin' retard.

    Whoa! Hold it there cowboy! That sounded like the start of a philosophical
    and highly cerebral debate! Are you sure you can handle it? =D

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  • From MarioCCCP@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 13:37:41 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

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  • From MarioCCCP@21:1/5 to Lester Thorpe on Sun Feb 9 13:35:21 2025
    On 21/10/24 21:07, Lester Thorpe wrote:
    Distro maintainers, and their lackey consumers, who bloat their GNU/Linux distros with performance degrading security "features" should take note
    of the latest exclamations of Linus Torvalds:

    "Honestly, I'm pretty damn fed up with buggy hardware and completely theoretical
    attacks that have never actually shown themselves to be used in practice."

    Some facts : it seems that most recent Intel's advanced
    systems 1) have some millions circuits of unpredictable use
    and 2) a fully functional "minix" OS hardwired in the
    hardware and running at 0 (or negative) privilege level ...
    to do what ?
    The Linux OS loaded later cannot even see all this, running
    on top of a magmatic ocean, with direct access to network
    chip too.
    So, maybe, a lot of "attacks" could be operating daily
    without even being noticed, since they don't do direct damage.
    And the kind of attack could be not intrusive, just DATA
    STEALING for surveillance goals, traveling stealthily from
    the machine to some vigilant ear somewhere.
    But the even more sad truth is : there is nothing that the
    OS developers can do to mitigate this, not even to detect
    sth strange is happening.


    https://linux.slashdot.org/story/24/10/21/1533228/linus-torvalds-growing-frustrated-by-buggy-hardware-theoretical-cpu-attacks

    Tell 'em, Linus! Those paranoid freaks are ruining desktop computing!

    To keep my workstation free of these ridiculous "mitigations" I have
    to devote some slightly significant time -- and I don't like it.

    At the very least, separate the desktop workstation from the public-facing sever as these have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT "security" concerns.

    I am sick of these "the sky is falling" security-obsessed idiots.

    well, the sky has just fallen, it's just that we pretend it
    is still there above :(





    --
    1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
    2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
    MarioCPPP

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to MarioCCCP on Mon Feb 10 07:23:35 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

    On 2/9/25 07:37, MarioCCCP wrote:
    On 22/10/24 14:32, bad sector wrote:
    On 10/22/24 07:44, Phillip Frabott wrote:
    On 10/21/2024 15:07, Lester Thorpe wrote:
    Distro maintainers, and their lackey consumers, who bloat their GNU/
    Linux
    distros with performance degrading security "features" should take note >>>> of the latest exclamations of Linus Torvalds:

    "Honestly, I'm pretty damn fed up with buggy hardware and completely
    theoretical
    attacks that have never actually shown themselves to be used in
    practice."

    https://linux.slashdot.org/story/24/10/21/1533228/linus- torvalds-
    growing-frustrated-by-buggy-hardware- theoretical-cpu-attacks

    Tell 'em, Linus!  Those paranoid freaks are ruining desktop computing! >>>>
    To keep my workstation free of these ridiculous "mitigations" I have
    to devote some slightly significant time -- and I don't like it.

    At the very least, separate the desktop workstation from the public-
    facing
    sever as these have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT "security" concerns.

    I am sick of these "the sky is falling" security-obsessed idiots.

    Original Post is here:
    https://www.phoronix.com/news/Torvalds-Frustrated-Buggy-HW

    It's time for HW manufacturing (all development AND actual production)
    to return to the USA/CXanada and Europe.


    let rely on USaid / NED then :D :D :D :D

    no, really ... far better to rely upon those who cannot take control of
    your house, money, body, since you live out of their jurisdiction.
    Let's be spied by distant powers, it has fewer drawbacks

    No contest, but let's not step into Trump's crap unloaded right in front
    of us exactly because he wants us to slip on it while he's jockeying to negotiate. It's not called an 'opening' position for nothing. Smart
    people say nothing, just watch both hands, ready to chop either or both
    off STILL without saying a word. #1, The univere is an EVENT based
    mechanism, loudmouth morons that the french call 'connards incultes
    enculés' are discounted before the starting bell. #2, most of his
    seemingly unlimited fubar amounts to unconditional support of
    war-criminals which says that the real super-power are those war-criminals.

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to MarioCCCP on Mon Feb 10 07:54:50 2025
    XPost: comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux

    On 2/9/25 07:37, MarioCCCP wrote:

    Let's be spied by distant powers, it has fewer drawbacks

    Yeh, but those distant powers got pretty good at it while everyone was
    watching oscars and superbowls. You cannot take a breath in piefaceland
    without their kremlin knowing how many cc's of that you actualy had
    enough merit points for! That was actually the key that gave the virus
    story away when all those chinese teens were on the TV licking
    door-knobs and hand-rails; I asked myself, is there a single idiot on
    this planet who would gobble up THAT fabrication with NY written all
    over it? The answer was obvious, someone had dropped a fart and was
    immediately looking at the person next to him to herd all blame in that direction. It bombed, NO ONE believed it, so next they made some more
    videos in the USA this time and on youtube to divert attention from the previous diversion fraud but that didn't work either.

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