https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14865891/Microsoft-Authenticator-app-axed.html

Microsoft is shutting down an essential feature in an app that
is used by millions to log into accounts.

The tech giant announced this week that users will no longer
be able to store passwords in its Authenticator app, which
is an extra layer of security for accounts that generates
one-time passwords.

Around 75 million people use the app to store their credentials,
but Microsoft will start deleting the codes starting in August.

This will impact users of Microsoft services like Outlook,
Excel, and those using Android and iOS smartphones.

. . .

Let me guess ... M$ had exactly ONE old guy who
knew how the app worked - and he quit or retired
or dropped dead in the break room.

Win-2k ... there was ONE old guy who could hold
the entire system and interactions in his head.
Then he was gone. From XP on we saw endless bloat
and complication and weird errors ... and that
gave us Vista and worse.

Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although
we do see certain utilities that get depreciated
as their sole maintainers drop out. We all seem
to rely on a small inventory of 'geniuses' ...

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c186282 wrote:

Microsoft is shutting down an essential feature in an app that
is used by millions to log into accounts.

The tech giant announced this week that users will no longer
be able to store passwords in its Authenticator app

Misleading headline from the Mail, Authenticator is not being dropped,
it'll continue for its main purpose as MFA, the app has had on-screen
warnings for ages about password functionality going away

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On 02/07/2025 13:29, Carl Fink wrote:

On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."

:-)

--
“Progress is precisely that which rules and regulations did not foresee,”

– Ludwig von Mises

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On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."
--
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-Kenne Estes

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John Ames wrote:

WinAuth is a perfectly satisfactory substitute for Authenticator
in its primary role

I'm thinking of swapping to 2FAS, anyone used it?

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On 2025-07-02 07:52, c186282 wrote:

  Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although
  we do see certain utilities that get depreciated
  as their sole maintainers drop out. We all seem
  to rely on a small inventory of 'geniuses' ...

Being pedantic, I believe it is "deprecated", not "depreciated" :-)

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 02/07/2025 19:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-02 07:52, c186282 wrote:

   Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although
   we do see certain utilities that get depreciated
   as their sole maintainers drop out. We all seem
   to rely on a small inventory of 'geniuses' ...

Being pedantic, I believe it is "deprecated", not "depreciated" :-)

Deprecated = not recommended
Depreciated = fallen in value.

Someone should tell the Town council that 'prescirbed' means indicated
as to be used and 'proscribed' means forbidden. The next time they issue
a parking ticket for 'parking in a prescribed place'.


--
"Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
"What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

"Jeremy Corbyn?"

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On 7/2/25 2:53 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 19:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-02 07:52, c186282 wrote:

   Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although
   we do see certain utilities that get depreciated
   as their sole maintainers drop out. We all seem
   to rely on a small inventory of 'geniuses' ...

Being pedantic, I believe it is "deprecated", not "depreciated" :-)

Deprecated = not recommended
Depreciated = fallen in value.

Followed soon by "deceased".

Someone should tell the Town council that 'prescirbed' means indicated
as to be used and 'proscribed' means forbidden. The next time they issue
a parking ticket for 'parking in a prescribed place'.

Hey, dialects vary ... don't be an '-ist' :-)

Not much 'forsooth'-ing these days anymore either.

With the rise of China we'll have to start adding
more and more Mandarin terminology.

I am a bit worried about the volume of 'single
maintainer' software in Linux ...

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On 7/2/25 8:32 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 13:29, Carl Fink wrote:

On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."

:-)

If you want The Dirt first, DM is pretty
good at that. It's only sort-of a "news"
site however, tons of celeb gossip and
it does have a talent for hype. On the
plus it updates frequently, unlike a lot
of supposed 'real' news sites.

'Authenticator' is not entirely going away,
but many (most?) USE it for the disappearing
password functionality so it may as well be
entirely gone.

I see M$ announced 9000 new job cuts today ...
the AI is to blame.

Still seen NO plans for dealing with
all the humans obsoleted by 'AI' ...

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On 03/07/2025 01:26, c186282 wrote:

On 7/2/25 8:32 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 13:29, Carl Fink wrote:

On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."

:-)

  If you want The Dirt first, DM is pretty
  good at that. It's only sort-of a "news"
  site however, tons of celeb gossip and
  it does have a talent for hype. On the
  plus it updates frequently, unlike a lot
  of supposed 'real' news sites.

The Tabloid Press is unashamedly partisan, shouty, mostly bullshit, and occasionally enjoyable.

I read the DE not for news, but to get an idea about what story is
paying the DE to promote today, and for a quick overview of what the
'plebs' are being told to think.

Of course, they don't, and the comments in there are far better written
than the articles.

For news, you need to dig deeper in more recondite places...

--
“Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

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On 2025-07-03 03:02, c186282 wrote:

On 7/2/25 2:53 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 19:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-02 07:52, c186282 wrote:

   Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although
   we do see certain utilities that get depreciated
   as their sole maintainers drop out. We all seem
   to rely on a small inventory of 'geniuses' ...

Being pedantic, I believe it is "deprecated", not "depreciated" :-)

Deprecated = not recommended
Depreciated = fallen in value.

  Followed soon by "deceased".

Someone should tell the Town council that 'prescirbed' means indicated
as to be used and 'proscribed' means forbidden. The next time they
issue a parking ticket for 'parking in a prescribed place'.

  Hey, dialects vary ... don't be an '-ist'  :-)

  Not much 'forsooth'-ing these days anymore either.

  With the rise of China we'll have to start adding
  more and more Mandarin terminology.

Yiks.

  I am a bit worried about the volume of 'single
  maintainer' software in Linux ...

You have a point there...

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 12:01:19 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-03 03:02, c186282 wrote:

On 7/2/25 2:53 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 19:04, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-02 07:52, c186282 wrote:

   Linux is a BIT better in this respect, although we do see
   certain utilities that get depreciated as their sole
   maintainers drop out. We all seem to rely on a small inventory
   of 'geniuses' ...

Being pedantic, I believe it is "deprecated", not "depreciated"

Deprecated = not recommended Depreciated = fallen in value.

  Followed soon by "deceased".

Someone should tell the Town council that 'prescirbed' means indicated
as to be used and 'proscribed' means forbidden. The next time they
issue a parking ticket for 'parking in a prescribed place'.

  Hey, dialects vary ... don't be an '-ist'

  Not much 'forsooth'-ing these days anymore either.

  With the rise of China we'll have to start adding more and more
  Mandarin terminology.

Yiks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_(Firefly)

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On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 07:55:58 -0700, John Ames wrote:

Besides, haven't we been paying attention to Satya's messianic dog-and-
pony show?

Remember his first slogan after taking over from The Sweaty One was
“Mobile First, Cloud First”. Or was it “Cloud First, Mobile First”? I can’t remember now, which “First” was firster.

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On 7/3/25 5:56 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 03/07/2025 01:26, c186282 wrote:

On 7/2/25 8:32 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 02/07/2025 13:29, Carl Fink wrote:

On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."

:-)

   If you want The Dirt first, DM is pretty
   good at that. It's only sort-of a "news"
   site however, tons of celeb gossip and
   it does have a talent for hype. On the
   plus it updates frequently, unlike a lot
   of supposed 'real' news sites.

The Tabloid Press is unashamedly partisan, shouty, mostly bullshit, and occasionally enjoyable.

I find DM reasonably 'enjoyable' - a sort of 'variety
magazine' plugged in to the mainstream culture. From
time to time it DOES post good sci/tech stuff.

As for "partisan" - DM is Brit, and I don't really
know or get Brit political parties or the partisan
canon that go with them. To the US reader it seems
relatively non-partisan.

The best US news doesn't come from the USA - it's
all too biased. As nobody else 'gets' the USA their
news about us tends to be Just The Facts.

I read the DE not for news, but to get an idea about what story is
paying the DE  to promote today, and for a quick overview of what the 'plebs' are being told to think.

Of course, they don't, and the comments in there are far better written
than the articles.

For news, you need to dig deeper in more recondite places...

I go around the world every day. Whatever most sites
seem to agree on is probably The Truth.

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On Thu, 3 Jul 2025 20:42:14 -0400, c186282 wrote:

I find DM reasonably 'enjoyable' - a sort of 'variety magazine'
plugged in to the mainstream culture. From time to time it DOES post
good sci/tech stuff.

If you like the Daily Mail

https://www.bild.de/

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On 7/2/25 8:29 AM, Carl Fink wrote:

On 2025-07-02, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

Misleading headline from the Mail ...

You just had to write, "Headline from the Mail."

It does good stuff ... sometimes .... :-)

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On 2025-07-04 02:42, c186282 wrote:

  I go around the world every day. Whatever most sites
  seem to agree on is probably The Truth.

Maybe, maybe not. In my country, most media are right side shifted, so
the majority of news are right shifted. Maybe the truth is in fact left
side.

It is not that easy...

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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On 04/07/2025 01:42, c186282 wrote:

I go around the world every day. Whatever most sites
  seem to agree on is probably The Truth.

A very dangerous assumption.
I simply assume they in the pay of the same entity.


--
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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On 7/4/25 4:20 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-04 02:42, c186282 wrote:

   I go around the world every day. Whatever most sites
   seem to agree on is probably The Truth.

Maybe, maybe not. In my country, most media are right side shifted, so
the majority of news are right shifted. Maybe the truth is in fact left
side.

It is not that easy...

RIGHT-side ???????????????

Where have you BEEN dude ?

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On 7/4/25 6:21 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 04/07/2025 01:42, c186282 wrote:

I go around the world every day. Whatever most sites
   seem to agree on is probably The Truth.

A very dangerous assumption.
I simply assume they in the pay of the same entity.

I try to go wide enough so that's kind of
impossible. Several Euro, African, Asian,
S.American news sites. No "They" own them all.

On the flip, I do understand the diff between
"consumer politics" and Machiavellian realpolitik.
Always have to bear that in mind.

In short, IT AIN'T EASY THESE DAYS.

"Real" is more plastic than ever. Add more 'AI'
and it becomes even worse.

LONG LONG back I coined the term "Dali-Ocracy" ...
a seeming reality where you can never be quite
sure of what's actually real. The question is
how long any sort of societies can persist if
dealing with nothing but the surreal.

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On 05/07/2025 06:58, c186282 wrote:

The question is
  how long any sort of societies can persist if
  dealing with nothing but the surreal.

Exactly. Game theory favours a psychopath in a nation of trustworthy
people, but if everyone is psycho, the country tears itself apart.

In Russia there is no truth, Only what must be believed. And that falls
apart on contact with reality.

--
“Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of
a car with the cramped public exposure of 
an airplane.”

Dennis Miller

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