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D wrote:

Give AI enhanced facial recognition to the cops -- won't that be fun.
Enter 'Minority Report'.

They did that in some country, and it always targeted immigrants. The AI
was judged racist, and the project shut down. It was hilarious! =D

Well, of course it was shut down. Even though it was correct.

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On 2025-02-13, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 03:50:11 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

The "a few mistakes are OK" logic WILL be applied.

It's often sanitized with that lovely phrase "collateral damage".

During my first exam with my current primary about 20 years ago she
offered a PSA test but explained that there are a lot of false positives
that scare the hell out of people. She would order the test if I wanted or
we could go the traditional route. I passed on the test.

I went the other way. I had been getting a DRE (digital rectal exam,
a.k.a. the finger) every year for 10 years with negative results.
My wife suggested a PSA, and I figured I could look at a number
without freaking out. The result came back 20 (where 4 is considered
cause for concern). I calmly asked for another test. It came out
the same, making it less likely it was a false positive. Next step
was a biopsy (8 on the Gleason scale), which led to a radical
prostatectomy. If I had opted for blissful ignorance I'd probably
be dead by now.

At this point I've probably reached the status of men who die with, but
not from, prostate cancer.

Me too - but I'm still watching my PSA. It started slowly creeping
up again, but a round of hormone therapy knocked it back down.
Gotta keep weeding the garden...

Please, guys, if you're over 50, get a PSA test.

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On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 14/02/2025 00:24, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

Please, guys, if you're over 50, get a PSA test.

Every time I have a test they come up with yet another incurable condition.

If I were a gambling man, I'd take bets on which one is going to kill me first

And yet, I seem to be still here...

You are a tough cookie! =)

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On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 09:50:34 +0100, D <[email protected]> wrote in <[email protected]>:

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025, [email protected] wrote:

On 2/13/25 4:07 PM, D wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025, [email protected] wrote:

On 2/13/25 2:10 AM, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 22:58:30 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

    Neural networks can likely do "someone in there" even better, >>>>>>     eventually. At the moment LLMs get most of the funding so NNs are a
    bit behind the curve. New/better hardware and paradigms are needed
    but WILL eventually arrive.

So far there is nobody in there for CNNs. You know all the pieces and >>>>> they
don't magically start breathing when you put them together. It is true >>>>> the
whole system is a bit of a black box but it is describable.

 Well, I agree about "CNNs"  :-)

 As for LLMs ... dunno. Get enough stuff going there and
 something very hard, maybe impossible, to distinguish
 from "someone in there" may be realized. Then what do
 we do - ruthlessly pull the plug ?

Nope. Volition, will to live, drive, goals are completely missing. The best >>> trick to find out if you're talking with an AI is to write nothing. A human >>> will write "hello" after a few seconds. The AI will just sit there waiting >>> for input.

Yes... those things can be hardcoded, but what would make me impressed is >>> when spontaneous behaviour, motivation, will to live emerges on its own, >>> without being hard coded or simulated through logic.

Then we're talking AI!

I am not beyond thinking LLMs will eventually, maybe
kinda soon, exhibit 'conscious', 'self-realized'
intelligence. The complexity increases apace. At
SOME point ..........

I do not things LLMs will reach consciousness, looking at the technology, training data and how they work. I see them as a potential "language
center" of the brain of a AGI.

But how do we KNOW and what do we DO about it ?

We look at the effects. That's all we can do.

Those are the HARD questions.

Yes! Let me welcome you to alt.philosophy! =) Hard and interesting
questions!

There's also comp.ai.philosophy ...

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