bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz)) / 86400"
... that nowadays saves the creation time ...
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:13:03 -0000 (UTC), Lem Novantotto wrote:
... that nowadays saves the creation time ...
I
Have a real problem with snipping.
On 15 Jan 2025 01:37:09 GMT, vallor wrote:
Have a real problem with snipping.
I wonder why ... considering that the entire thread is still available
for you not just to read, but also to copy/paste from.
You snipped again, removing all [irrelevant] content from the post,
so you could make a meta-point.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:11:52 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote in <vm75h8$2lnf2$[email protected]>:
On 15 Jan 2025 01:37:09 GMT, vallor wrote:
Have a real problem with snipping.
I wonder why ... considering that the entire thread is still available
for you not just to read, but also to copy/paste from.
Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence -- take a look around.
You snipped again, removing all Linux content from the post,
so you could make a meta-point.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk about Linux in the Linux
newsgroup?
ObLinux:
I was running Linux 6.13-rc7, but have gone back to 6.12.9.
Turns out Microsoft screwed the pooch on a patch submission
to the new kernel:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/14/microsoft_linux_change_pulled/
h/t to rbowman for posting about that in cola.
On 2025-01-15, vallor <[email protected]> wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk about Linux in the Linux
newsgroup?
We do, occasionally ;-) but this group overlaps with
alt.folklore.computers as a social medium for septugenarian nerds. Much
of that chatter would probably be better in a group of its own, but then
our fellow auld farts would never find it.
I used to think that a Quora space would be the best place for it, but
Quora has mostly lost the good guys due to bad housekeeping and
overblown monetization. Maybe BlueSky can get there?
On 2025-01-15, Lars Poulsen <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-01-15, vallor <[email protected]> wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice if we could talk about Linux in the Linux
newsgroup?
We do, occasionally ;-) but this group overlaps with
alt.folklore.computers as a social medium for septugenarian nerds. Much
of that chatter would probably be better in a group of its own, but then
our fellow auld farts would never find it.
I used to think that a Quora space would be the best place for it, but
Quora has mostly lost the good guys due to bad housekeeping and
overblown monetization. Maybe BlueSky can get there?
I occasionally read another forum that's on Quora. I considered
replying to a thread, but then I saw that button labeled "Do not
sell my data." That means that if you forget - even once - to
click on that button while replying, whatever personal data you
give them is theirs to do whatever they want with. There's no
way in hell I'll ever register on such a forum - they'll just
have to do without my pearls of wisdom.
While reading that, I came about this article, https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/14/the_end_of_absolute_linux/
I recently had one of my photo management program scripts break.
In iOS 18, Apple made some subtle changes is their use of the .HEIC
file format, causing libheif to fail. I had to go out and find
the Fedora Rawhide version of the fixed libheif, and all is good
again. Kudos to .so libraries. But when I build programs to give to
others, it would be much easier if I could link them statically
rather than track down all the dependencies to make sure to help
my "clients" find them before they can use my program.
Il Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:44:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha
scritto:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz)) / 86400"
Well, here vmlinuz is in /boot: so /boot/vmlinuz, above.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:13:03 -0000 (UTC), Lem Novantotto
<[email protected]d> wrote in <vm5dbe$2b9fo$[email protected]>:
Il Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:44:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha
scritto:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz)) / 86400"
Well, here vmlinuz is in /boot: so /boot/vmlinuz, above.
I just looked in /boot, and discovered /boot/vmlinuz is a symlink
to the actual file. While the time is usually pretty close
to the actual kernel file, it might not be.
So it would be:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400"
On 2025-01-16 19:29, vallor wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:13:03 -0000 (UTC), Lem Novantotto
<[email protected]d> wrote in <vm5dbe$2b9fo$[email protected]>:
Il Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:44:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha
scritto:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz)) / 86400"
Well, here vmlinuz is in /boot: so /boot/vmlinuz, above.
I just looked in /boot, and discovered /boot/vmlinuz is a symlink
to the actual file. While the time is usually pretty close
to the actual kernel file, it might not be.
So it would be:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400"
Is that supposed to be a date?
Is that supposed to be a date?
On 8/27/25 5:34 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-01-16 19:29, vallor wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 10:13:03 -0000 (UTC), Lem Novantotto
<[email protected]d> wrote in <vm5dbe$2b9fo$[email protected]>:
Il Tue, 14 Jan 2025 04:44:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ha
scritto:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz)) / 86400"
Well, here vmlinuz is in /boot: so /boot/vmlinuz, above.
I just looked in /boot, and discovered /boot/vmlinuz is a symlink
to the actual file. While the time is usually pretty close
to the actual kernel file, it might not be.
So it would be:
bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400" >>>
Is that supposed to be a date?
Sure ! Isn't it obvious ? :-)
Meanwhile, almost NO reason ever to insanely
covet the latest kernel. Even full previous
versions are still super-functional and secure.
MAIN reason might be support for some new bit
of exotic hardware.
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 11:34:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Is that supposed to be a date?
From my original posting:
Above shows days elapsed since the last kernel update, to tenths of a day.
To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.
On 2025-08-28 05:22, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 11:34:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Is that supposed to be a date?
From my original posting:
Above shows days elapsed since the last kernel update, to tenths of a day. >> To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.
Ah.
Well, as you can see, each concoction that was posted printed a different number.
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400"
43.9
The correct one is 43.91, calculated using a spreadsheet.
On 2025-08-28 05:22, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 11:34:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Is that supposed to be a date?
From my original posting:
Above shows days elapsed since the last kernel update, to tenths of a
day.
To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.
Ah.
Well, as you can see, each concoction that was posted printed a
different number.
The correct one is 43.91, calculated using a spreadsheet.
Lawrence:
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y /vmlinuz))
/ 86400"
stat: cannot statx '/vmlinuz': No such file or directory (standard_in)
1: syntax error cer@Telcontar:~>
vallor:
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400" 43.9 cer@Telcontar:~>
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%Y
/boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400" 28.5 cer@Telcontar:~>
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -c%W / )) /
86400"
2895.4 cer@Telcontar:~>
cer@Telcontar:~> l /boot/vmlinuz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 Jul 31 00:21 /boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.60-default cer@Telcontar:~> cer@Telcontar:~> l /boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.60-default -rw-r--r-- 1
root root 14204640 Jul 15 14:48 /boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.60-default
The symlink was created 28.51 days ago.
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:54:34 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-08-28 05:22, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 11:34:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Is that supposed to be a date?
From my original posting:
Above shows days elapsed since the last kernel update, to tenths of a day. >>> To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.
Ah.
Well, as you can see, each concoction that was posted printed a different number.
cer@Telcontar:~> bc <<<"scale = 1; ($(date +%s) - $(stat -L -c%Y /boot/vmlinuz)) / 86400"
43.9
The correct one is 43.91, calculated using a spreadsheet.
Let me just repeat this part again:
“To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.”
On 2025-08-29 00:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
“To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.”
I was not talking of that.
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:50:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-08-29 00:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
“To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.”
I was not talking of that.
I was. This is all about a piece of code I posted, remember?
On 2025-08-30 02:19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 14:50:01 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-08-29 00:21, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
“To change the precision, adjust the scale accordingly.”
I was not talking of that.
I was. This is all about a piece of code I posted, remember?
Yes.
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