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On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:24:13 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Lol. You're now arguing with AI.

Heh heh heh... AI confirmed the facts, Chris.
With links.

Specifically, Pegasus REPEATEDLY exploits the iOS kernel, Chris.
And yet, Pegasus has never once directly exploited Android's kernel.(1)

Those facts are facts whether or not you Apple trolls read them.
1. *AI confirmed Apple's iOS has the worst hotfix support*
a. In both numbers of releases fully supported
b. And in years of full support
2. *AI confirmed iOS has tremendously more known zero-day exploits*
a. One and a half times more! Which is huuuuuuuge!
3. *AI confirmed Apple's RSR mechanism was very late to the game
a. Every other operating system has patches
b. Where Android has many levels of *permanent* patch mechanisms
4. AI confirmed Pegasus only penetrates the iOS kernel; not Android
a. Worse, Pegasus *repeatedly* penetrates the iOS kernel!

Funnily enough it is repeating the exact same - at least to begin with, I gave up reading it - answers as we provide.

Of course you gave up reading it, Chris. You're an Apple troll.
You own the technical attention span of an uneducated religious zealot.

The AI confirmed Apple only fully supports one (& only one) OS at a time. (Every other operating system is much better than Apple's support.)

The AI confirmed Apple's promised iOS support is the shortest between
Google and Samsung, who are the major players in that smartphone tier.

The AI confirmed iOS has had cumulatively 1-1/2 times the zero-day bugs.
(Where is the security that you paid so dearly for that you didn't get?)

The AI confirmed iOS only recently had a patch mechanism for God sake.
(Every other operating system was designed from the start for patching.)

...And, most importantly, for this thread topic...

The AI confirmed Pegasus only directly penetrates the iOS kernel, Chris.
(The iOS kernel is *repeatedly* penetrated with *zero-click* exploits!)

It's clear you're an anti-Apple zealot. Completely irrational.

You think confirmed facts, are, "irrational"?

Besides, I most likely own more Apple products than you own, Chris.
The difference is I didn't buy them because of Apple marketing spiels.

I buy Apple products so that I can test out how they really work.
You mistake my *U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G* Apple as being anti Apple.

It's clear Apple has the worst operating system support, by far, in the
entire industry - and yet - Apple advertises otherwise to people like you.

So you hate me.
For proving Apple wrong.

And hence, for bursting your bubble of that "security" you so desperately
need so much that you paid two or three times the value to obtain it.

And yet, there is no operating system *less secure* than iOS is, Chris.
That's what you hate, Chris.

Facts.
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(1) There are no published reports of Pegasus directly exploiting Android. There are very many published reports of Pegasus directly exploiting iOS.

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On 2025-06-25 14:08, Marion wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:24:13 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Lol. You're now arguing with AI.

Heh heh heh... AI confirmed the facts, Chris.
With links.

That you believe AI can be trusted to confirm facts, says more about you...

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On 2025-06-26 09:17, Tom Elam wrote:

On 6/25/2025 7:04 PM, Alan wrote:

On 2025-06-25 14:08, Marion wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:24:13 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Lol. You're now arguing with AI.

Heh heh heh... AI confirmed the facts, Chris.
With links.

That you believe AI can be trusted to confirm facts, says more about
you...

As you stated Alan, Chris is a liar. But Alan you also lied by not
looking into this threat to determine if AI results could be
independently confirmed, even partially.

Doofus: I was replying to "Marion"/"Andrew"/"Arlen"...

Hint to readers - Alan frequently lies by omission. Neither of you is
telling the whole truth.

So, let's look at some facts from other sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)
(or do your own search on Pegasus spyware)

Pegasus is real, intended to target high profile individuals, and can
steal all manner of information. It is not a widespread threat.

Where did I even imply that Pegasus isn't real, Liarboy?

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 12:17:29 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :



Tom,

results could be independently confirmed

I never disagree with a logical viewpoint, where you were logical when you observed that AI is just another search engine - it's not inherently right
or wrong - what's inherently right or wrong depends on the data, which is
the same data whether you looked up the links from AI as from Google or DuckDuckGo or if your grandmother gave you the link to the facts.

So you were correct, and Alan Baker (who is a moron) was wrong in that AI
isn't inherently right or wrong as it's just yet another search engine.

All morons like Alan Baker is think that all AI results are bad, simply
because they have never used any search engine, let alone an AI search.

They never click on the links either, as you've astutely noted.

So I agree with your claim that AI results are just results much like
search results, and that Alan Baker didn't bother clicking any links.

However, your claim is about Pegasus missed a key fact.
We're talking about the "Kernel". Notice that word in the subject line?

And, contrary to claims of never on Android, it is also been an Android exploit.

You missed a key point. Look in the SUBJECT line of this thread.
What word do you see that you didn't mention in your claim above?

*The _kernel_ is what we're talking about*

Q1: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the iOS kernel?
Q2: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the Android kernel?

Knowing that answer tells us a lot about how horrid iOS security is.

I know the answer. I'm not stupid.
Do you? Do the Apple trolls know the answer (i.e., they *are* stupid).

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On 2025-06-26 11:36, Marion wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 12:17:29 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :

Tom,

results could be independently confirmed

I never disagree with a logical viewpoint, where you were logical when you observed that AI is just another search engine - it's not inherently right
or wrong - what's inherently right or wrong depends on the data, which is
the same data whether you looked up the links from AI as from Google or DuckDuckGo or if your grandmother gave you the link to the facts.

So you were correct, and Alan Baker (who is a moron) was wrong in that AI isn't inherently right or wrong as it's just yet another search engine.

All morons like Alan Baker is think that all AI results are bad, simply because they have never used any search engine, let alone an AI search.

They never click on the links either, as you've astutely noted.

So I agree with your claim that AI results are just results much like
search results, and that Alan Baker didn't bother clicking any links.

However, your claim is about Pegasus missed a key fact.
We're talking about the "Kernel". Notice that word in the subject line?

And the careful language!

And, contrary to claims of never on Android, it is also been an Android
exploit.

You missed a key point. Look in the SUBJECT line of this thread.
What word do you see that you didn't mention in your claim above?

*The _kernel_ is what we're talking about*

Q1: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the iOS kernel?
Q2: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the Android kernel?

Why does it matter exactly HOW Pegasus operates, Arlen?

You're doing what you always do:

Finding a narrowly defined... ...something... ...so you can declare how terrible Apple is.

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On 2025-06-30 23:19, Marion wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:25:08 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :

Q1: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the iOS kernel?
Q2: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the Android kernel?

Knowing that answer tells us a lot about how horrid iOS security is.

I know the answer. I'm not stupid.

So, supply the answer, with specific citations attributed to credible
3rd party sources.

Why is it the Apple trolls can't ever read what has already been supplied?

Why is it you cannot provide a link to what you claim "has already been supplied"?

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:25:08 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :

Q1: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the iOS kernel?
Q2: How many times has Pegasus DIRECTLY infected the Android kernel?

Knowing that answer tells us a lot about how horrid iOS security is.

I know the answer. I'm not stupid.

So, supply the answer, with specific citations attributed to credible
3rd party sources.

Why is it the Apple trolls can't ever read what has already been supplied?

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