It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

Those who are bored by a historical novel can skip to the end, with the asterisks****.

I've been trying to use my Android phone from my PC, which has a large keyboard.

First I used MyPhoneExplorer. Great program, and good, among many other things, for sending texts while using a full-size keyboard, but you had
to have the phone on and connected to the PC at the time. I usually
have my cell phone off.

Then I learned how to send texts from the PC, by using the phone number
with the right domain, a different one for each cellular company. This
worked very well, but in the past 6 months 3 of the major cellular
companies have disabled it. Why I don't know, since I can't see how this
costs the cellular company any money (especially once the code has been written.) The one I used most was disabled 2 weeks ago! :-(

Then I learned about Phone Link and Whatsapp for the PC.

Phone Link is free and very good but it also requires the cell phone to
be on, and I suppose, connected.

****And I assumed Whatsapp did too. Tonight my brother called from Peru
and it rang on the PC, EVEN THOUGH THE PHONE WAS OFF!!!! I would have
missed him if whatsapp were not so clever (and he's 85 and he's been
sick and I don't like it when I miss his calls. We talked for over an
hour with no static, blips, or interference.) I think whatsapp on the
PC might have been closed too, ????, but I will test that later. Could
it have been closed. If I have to keep it open all the time, that's
better than having to keep the phone on all the time, esp. now that I
have 32gigs of RAM. Whatsapp is a wonder.

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micky <[email protected]> writes:

have 32gigs of RAM. Whatsapp is a wonder.

The only reason you can't do that with Signal is your brother isn't
using Signal. It's not a wonder, it just got there first and pwned the
entire world.

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On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

That kind of pattern can be observed in many technical domains: Not the
best just the first takes the market irrespective of its deficiencies.


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In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jun 2025 09:33:01 +0100, Richmond <[email protected]> wrote:

micky <[email protected]> writes:

have 32gigs of RAM. Whatsapp is a wonder.

The only reason you can't do that with Signal is your brother isn't
using Signal. It's not a wonder, it just got there first and pwned the
entire world.

Then I would say it the opposite way. If the phone doesn't have to be
on to use Signal, then Signal is a wonder too. But you are probabaly
right that my brother and my other friends don't use Signal.

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On 15.06.25 17:43, micky wrote:

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:45:52 +0200, Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd
behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

It's never caused me a problem and only been a great benefit. In what
way is it a blunder?

Zuckerberg is stealing your personal and private information without
your consent despite claiming the contrary and tries to monetize it big
size.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:45:52 +0200, J�rg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd >behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

It's never caused me a problem and only been a great benefit. In what
way is it a blunder?

That kind of pattern can be observed in many technical domains: Not the
best just the first takes the market irrespective of its deficiencies.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jun 2025 17:52:00 +0200, J�rg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:

On 15.06.25 17:43, micky wrote:

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:45:52 +0200, J�rg Lorenz
<[email protected]> wrote:

On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd
behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

It's never caused me a problem and only been a great benefit. In what
way is it a blunder?

Zuckerberg is stealing your personal and private information without
your consent despite claiming the contrary and tries to monetize it big
size.

On a related note, though involving google. I google lots of things and
play lots of youtube videos, and for the first time in all these years,
this month I noticed a correlation. Since googling up one product, a
wifi camera (that I plan to use to watch my back yard to see if any
animals visit), about 1/3 of all the advertisements I see are for
products made by that company. Actually I liked them at first. Even
though they were not about the item I wanted, they were similar items
and I learned things. It has gotten repititious, but they're still no
worse than any others.

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Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> writes:

On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

That kind of pattern can be observed in many technical domains: Not the
best just the first takes the market irrespective of its deficiencies.

This might be an opportunity to mention Delta Chat. It can send emails,
or instant messages via delta chat's servers. So if you want an instant
message user interface but the ability to communicate with people not on
delta chat too, you can use their email address. The usual objection is
that email is not instant, but then neither are instant messages in my experience because people don't reply instantly.

Available on android, ios, FireOS, Linux, MacOS, Windows, f-droid.

https://delta.chat/en/

https://chaos.social/@delta

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On 16.06.25 11:51, Richmond wrote:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> writes:

On 15.06.25 02:02, micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

WhatsApp is the biggest blunder in digital history and only stupid herd
behaviour led to the success in terms of user numbers.

That kind of pattern can be observed in many technical domains: Not the
best just the first takes the market irrespective of its deficiencies.

This might be an opportunity to mention Delta Chat. It can send emails,
or instant messages via delta chat's servers. So if you want an instant message user interface but the ability to communicate with people not on delta chat too, you can use their email address. The usual objection is
that email is not instant, but then neither are instant messages in my experience because people don't reply instantly.

Available on android, ios, FireOS, Linux, MacOS, Windows, f-droid.

https://delta.chat/en/

https://chaos.social/@delta

Thanks for sharing the information and your opinion. Another exciting alternative to WhatsApp.

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micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

Now with added advert goodness

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5y07yqg5do>

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On 16.06.25 19:04, Andy Burns wrote:

micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

Now with added advert goodness

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5y07yqg5do>

Reminds me of drug dealers.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 16 Jun 2025 18:04:47 +0100, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

micky wrote:

It's a wonder, Whatsapp.

Now with added advert goodness

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5y07yqg5do>

"Wiil show more ads" Would have to be more because up till now it
hasn't shown any.

"The new ad features will appear in a section called Updates, which is a separate tab at the bottom of the app. "

I looked now. Not sure if this is the mew fpr,at. bit after half a page
about me, people who rec ently sent me stuff, 5 minutes and 41 minutes
ago, and the place to add my current status, there are 5 rcommended
channels. But I will ignore that. This is the Updates tab, which may
have been here for quite some time, but if so, I've ignored it and
probably will continue to do so.

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