• Pixel android upgrades

    From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 20:05:47 2025
    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...

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  • From Nil@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Jun 10 23:17:31 2025
    On 10 Jun 2025, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote in
    comp.mobile.android:

    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...

    I got Android 16 installed today. So far, I can see no difference. They
    say the visual changes won't happen until later this year.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Nil on Wed Jun 11 10:47:43 2025
    On 11.06.25 05:17, Nil wrote:
    On 10 Jun 2025, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote in comp.mobile.android:

    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...

    I got Android 16 installed today. So far, I can see no difference. They
    say the visual changes won't happen until later this year.

    Here no change either after the upgrade this morning. Didn't have time
    to go into more detail yet. Be faster than Apple at any price?

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 11 11:31:29 2025
    Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    Here no change either after the upgrade

    The changes may be few and far between, but they are there. Given that yesterday was also feature-drop day, I guess we will be waiting 3 months
    until we get the shiny bits? I don't think I'm tempted by QPR1B2 ...

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  • From Jason H@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed Jun 11 21:19:34 2025
    On 10/06/2025 20:05, Andy Burns wrote:
    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...


    Just upgraded my 9 Pro and Pixel Tablet. Warning: Make time. And having the
    device plugged in and not in use does not guarantee the upgrade won't pause
    because you're apparently using it (some things don't change).


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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Jun 13 19:53:31 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:05:47 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...

    One day after installing A16 on my Pixel 6 and I've got the impression
    it's eating my battery.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 20:29:25 2025
    s|b wrote:

    One day after installing A16 on my Pixel 6 and I've got the impression
    it's eating my battery.
    I think my P8a battery isn't doing so well recently, despite being set
    to 80% adaptive charging to promote "battery health", but it was
    happening before v16 upgrade.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Jun 13 22:50:47 2025
    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 20:29:25 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    I think my P8a battery isn't doing so well recently, despite being set
    to 80% adaptive charging to promote "battery health", but it was
    happening before v16 upgrade.

    I don't use that; I reckon there's no point in activating it now (after
    a few years of not having this... gizmo). I do use adaptive charging and
    I've got a timer that charges my phone for 1,5h in the morning.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 07:54:09 2025
    On 13.06.25 22:50, s|b wrote:
    I don't use that; I reckon there's no point in activating it now (after
    a few years of not having this... gizmo).

    You should. The plating of the anode is a permanent process and you can decelrate it.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 21:51:18 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 07:54:09 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

    I don't use that; I reckon there's no point in activating it now (after
    a few years of not having this... gizmo).

    You should. The plating of the anode is a permanent process and you can decelrate it.

    What do I do if my battery runs dry during the day? At what point do I
    connect it to my power bank to again charge it to 80%? Isn't the result
    that I will be recharging my battery even /more/? Because it won't hold
    a whole day when only charged to 80%?

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 22:22:46 2025
    On 14.06.25 21:51, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 07:54:09 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    I don't use that; I reckon there's no point in activating it now (after
    a few years of not having this... gizmo).

    You should. The plating of the anode is a permanent process and you can
    decelrate it.

    What do I do if my battery runs dry during the day? At what point do I connect it to my power bank to again charge it to 80%? Isn't the result
    that I will be recharging my battery even /more/? Because it won't hold
    a whole day when only charged to 80%?

    An empty battery is even worse than a full one. General wisdom is 20%
    over a longer period of time. The same plating effect at the cathode
    side. Keep the SOC (State of Charge) between 20% and 80% if possible.
    That applies to Lithium-Batteries.

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 00:15:01 2025
    s|b, 2025-06-13 19:53:

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 20:05:47 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    The v16 upgrade is now available for Pixel users, as I understand it
    this is mostly "below the waterline" improvements, with the visual
    changes not expected for another 2-3 months as part of the next
    feature-drop?

    1.2GB download underway ...

    One day after installing A16 on my Pixel 6 and I've got the impression
    it's eating my battery.

    I can not confirm that on a Pixel 6a - works as usual.


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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 17:03:37 2025
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 22:22:46 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

    An empty battery is even worse than a full one. General wisdom is 20%
    over a longer period of time. The same plating effect at the cathode
    side. Keep the SOC (State of Charge) between 20% and 80% if possible.
    That applies to Lithium-Batteries.

    I expect the following reasoning to be wrong, but...

    100 -> 20 = 80%
    80 -> 20 = 60%

    First method gives me a fully charged smartphone in the morning and
    usually lasts all day. I feel like the second method will have me
    running around with a charger (and powerbank) all the time. While it may
    be better for the battery, it doesn't seem very practical.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 17:27:57 2025
    On 15.06.25 17:03, s|b wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 22:22:46 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    An empty battery is even worse than a full one. General wisdom is 20%
    over a longer period of time. The same plating effect at the cathode
    side. Keep the SOC (State of Charge) between 20% and 80% if possible.
    That applies to Lithium-Batteries.

    I expect the following reasoning to be wrong, but...

    100 -> 20 = 80%
    80 -> 20 = 60%

    First method gives me a fully charged smartphone in the morning and
    usually lasts all day. I feel like the second method will have me
    running around with a charger (and powerbank) all the time. While it may
    be better for the battery, it doesn't seem very practical.

    That may be the case with your already worn out battery. The fast
    charger with 20 Watt recharges my Pixel from 20% to 80% in under 30 minutes.

    But it can help you to keep a future phones or Li-batteries in general
    at a healthy level for a much longer period of time. Most devices have firmwares now, that allow to preprogram the charging cycles (Pixels with Android 15 and up and iPhones 15 and up).

    My iPhone 14 claims to be at a SOH of 97% after 2 3/4 years of daily
    usage. The performance of my Pixel 7 is also still top notch after 3 years.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 17 17:47:19 2025
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 17:27:57 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

    That may be the case with your already worn out battery. The fast
    charger with 20 Watt recharges my Pixel from 20% to 80% in under 30 minutes.

    I bought my Pixel 6 in May 2022, so I've been (adaptive and timed)
    charging it to 100% for over 3 years now. Battery drain seems to be
    acceptable, so far.

    But to recharge it 80% I'd have to take a power bank with me at all
    time. I've got one, an Anker Nano Power Bank (30W) and it's heavy. I
    would have to buy a man-bag to put all my stuff (charger, powerbank,
    keys, wallet, smartphone, reading glasses, ...).

    But it can help you to keep a future phones or Li-batteries in general
    at a healthy level for a much longer period of time. Most devices have firmwares now, that allow to preprogram the charging cycles (Pixels with Android 15 and up and iPhones 15 and up).

    I'll see how far I'll get with my Pixel 6. Maybe wait until Pixel 10 is released, depending on what it costs. If I do buy it I'll certainly give
    the 80% charge a go.

    My iPhone 14 claims to be at a SOH of 97% after 2 3/4 years of daily
    usage. The performance of my Pixel 7 is also still top notch after 3 years.

    My Pixel 6 seems to do OK after 3 years, but I just installed A16 and
    don't yet know what it'll do to the battery.

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  • From AJL@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 17 17:22:35 2025
    On 6/17/25 8:47 AM, s|b wrote:
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 17:27:57 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    That may be the case with your already worn out battery. The fast
    charger with 20 Watt recharges my Pixel from 20% to 80% in under 30 minutes.

    I bought my Pixel 6 in May 2022, so I've been (adaptive and timed)
    charging it to 100% for over 3 years now. Battery drain seems to be >acceptable, so far.

    But to recharge it 80% I'd have to take a power bank with me at all
    time. I've got one, an Anker Nano Power Bank (30W) and it's heavy. I
    would have to buy a man-bag to put all my stuff (charger, powerbank,
    keys, wallet, smartphone, reading glasses, ...).

    But it can help you to keep a future phones or Li-batteries in general
    at a healthy level for a much longer period of time. Most devices have
    firmwares now, that allow to preprogram the charging cycles (Pixels with
    Android 15 and up and iPhones 15 and up).

    I'll see how far I'll get with my Pixel 6. Maybe wait until Pixel 10 is >released, depending on what it costs. If I do buy it I'll certainly give
    the 80% charge a go.

    I've been charging my Galaxy S10+ phone (that I'm making this post with) to
    100% for over 5 years now and so far no problems for my use. Luck of the
    draw I suppose...

    My iPhone 14 claims to be at a SOH of 97% after 2 3/4 years of daily
    usage. The performance of my Pixel 7 is also still top notch after 3 years.

    My Pixel 6 seems to do OK after 3 years, but I just installed A16 and
    don't yet know what it'll do to the battery.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 17 21:49:58 2025
    On 17.06.25 17:47, s|b wrote:
    My Pixel 6 seems to do OK after 3 years, but I just installed A16 and
    don't yet know what it'll do to the battery.

    After rebuilding the index there should not be any noticeable change.

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