• VoLTE

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 7 14:24:22 2025
    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the
    phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.

    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is
    always on.

    Did I get that right?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Jason H on Sat Jun 7 21:35:37 2025
    On 2025-06-07 21:26, Jason H wrote:
    On 07/06/2025 19:24, micky wrote:

    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the
    phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.
    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is
    always on.

    Did I get that right?

    More or less. Back in the day, making a voice call on a 4G phone meant stepping back to 3G (or lower). Then VoLTE was phased in. Most phones
    should just use it. On an older 4G phone you may need to explicitly set the phone to use VoLTE.

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

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  • From Jason H@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Jun 7 19:26:13 2025
    On 07/06/2025 19:24, micky wrote:

    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the
    phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.

    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is
    always on.

    Did I get that right?

    More or less. Back in the day, making a voice call on a 4G phone meant
    stepping back to 3G (or lower). Then VoLTE was phased in. Most phones
    should just use it. On an older 4G phone you may need to explicitly set the
    phone to use VoLTE.


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  • From Jason H@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sat Jun 7 19:43:09 2025
    On 07/06/2025 20:35, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:26, Jason H wrote:
    On 07/06/2025 19:24, micky wrote:

    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the
    phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.
    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is
    always on.

    Did I get that right?

    More or less. Back in the day, making a voice call on a 4G phone meant
    stepping back to 3G (or lower). Then VoLTE was phased in. Most phones
    should just use it. On an older 4G phone you may need to explicitly set the >> phone to use VoLTE.

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    Not surprising. 4G has been going for a long time.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sat Jun 7 20:51:32 2025
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE",
    but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat Jun 7 22:29:23 2025
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE",
    but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

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  • From Jason H@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sat Jun 7 20:38:32 2025
    On 07/06/2025 21:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE",
    but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the >warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for >"free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    WiFi calls are nice to have if your network supports it. Quite simply, the
    call goes through whatever WiFi the phone is connected to. If you're in a
    situation with poor coverage but decent WiFi, you'll appreciate it.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sat Jun 7 22:55:44 2025
    On 07.06.2025 22:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE",
    but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    VOLTE is something completely different. That describes the technology
    that is used for voice calls. It is standard and newer ones use 5G.

    Wifi calling is activated to have better connections in buildings. It is
    the fall back in case the connection in the public network cannot be
    sustained like in large office buildings or in rural areas with weak
    coverage. It is not particularly clever to deactivate wifi-calling.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 7 16:55:58 2025
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Jun 2025 19:26:13 -0000 (UTC), Jason H <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 19:24, micky wrote:

    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the >>phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.

    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is >>always on.

    Did I get that right?

    More or less. Back in the day, making a voice call on a 4G phone meant
    stepping back to 3G (or lower). Then VoLTE was phased in. Most phones
    should just use it. On an older 4G phone you may need to explicitly set the phone to use VoLTE.

    After I left my friend with the broken phone on Thrusday evening, when I
    got home, my phone started to have the same problem, like it was
    contagious. I couldn't call or get calls (although unlike hers, for me
    the web worked all right) I tried resetting connections and running
    mobile network diagnostics and the first didn't help and there
    apparently were't any diagnositics, and the only one I hadn't tried was
    "use VoLTE" and it fixed everything. And I don't know how it got turned
    off. And it hadn't sounded important: improve quality. Now if they
    said "Make it work when it won't" that would have sounded important..
    So I thought it might do the same for her (I'd forgotten about her web browswers not working.) But her phone is newer and probably uses it all
    the time.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat Jun 7 17:16:00 2025
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 07 Jun 2025 16:55:58 -0400, micky <[email protected]> wrote:

    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Jun 2025 19:26:13 -0000 (UTC), Jason H ><[email protected]> wrote:

    On 07/06/2025 19:24, micky wrote:

    The description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
    voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 4, 5
    maybe 6 years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the >>>phone doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE.

    But for newer phones there might not be such a choice because VoLTE is >>>always on.

    Did I get that right?

    More or less. Back in the day, making a voice call on a 4G phone meant
    stepping back to 3G (or lower). Then VoLTE was phased in. Most phones
    should just use it. On an older 4G phone you may need to explicitly set the >> phone to use VoLTE.

    After I left my friend with the broken phone on Thrusday evening, when I
    got home, my phone started to have the same problem, like it was
    contagious. I couldn't call or get calls (although unlike hers, for me
    the web worked all right) I tried resetting connections and running
    mobile network diagnostics and the first didn't help and there
    apparently were't any diagnositics, and the only one I hadn't tried was
    "use VoLTE" and it fixed everything. And I don't know how it got turned
    off.

    The phone worked 2 hours earlier so if that got turned off, it must have
    been when I was comparing her phone with mine, but I'm 99.9999% sure I
    didn't touch any settings in mine then.

    And it hadn't sounded important: improve quality. Now if they
    said "Make it work when it won't" that would have sounded important..
    So I thought it might do the same for her (I'd forgotten about her web >browswers not working.) But her phone is newer and probably uses it all
    the time.

    And while we were on the phone she looked and read me off all the
    setting in the group where my setting is, and it wasn't there.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 03:30:42 2025
    On 2025-06-07 22:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.06.2025 22:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE",
    but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    VOLTE is something completely different. That describes the technology
    that is used for voice calls. It is standard and newer ones use 5G.

    Wifi calling is activated to have better connections in buildings. It is
    the fall back in case the connection in the public network cannot be sustained like in large office buildings or in rural areas with weak coverage. It is not particularly clever to deactivate wifi-calling.

    It was never active in my phones. I would have to manually activate, and
    the toggle warns me to ask my provider first.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sun Jun 8 07:49:21 2025
    On 08.06.25 03:30, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 22:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.06.2025 22:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE", >>>> but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    VOLTE is something completely different. That describes the technology
    that is used for voice calls. It is standard and newer ones use 5G.

    Wifi calling is activated to have better connections in buildings. It is
    the fall back in case the connection in the public network cannot be
    sustained like in large office buildings or in rural areas with weak
    coverage. It is not particularly clever to deactivate wifi-calling.

    It was never active in my phones. I would have to manually activate, and
    the toggle warns me to ask my provider first.

    That does not mean much: If there happens a handover from the public
    network to a WLAN/wifi the provider continues to charge the same rate as
    if you were in the public network. That is all. I use this service with
    my provider Swisscom for over 10 years and I'm really happy because in
    our house in some rooms the public network can't deliver the same
    service quality like WLAN/wifi when making calls.

    The handset indicates when it switches to wifi but does it always
    automatically and unnoticeably. The much smaller provider Salt delivers
    here stable 5G. I use it with my Pixel 7 which also is
    WIFI-Calling-capable and Salt offers this service as well.


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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sun Jun 8 08:36:50 2025
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than
    "VoLTE", but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the warning to ask first the provider.

    <http://andyburns.uk/misc/android-4G-calling.png>

    As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.
    For me, it's not about free calls (my contract has unlimited calls/sms)
    it's about better signal in certain places.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jun 8 11:43:17 2025
    On 08.06.25 09:36, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than
    "VoLTE", but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider.

    <http://andyburns.uk/misc/android-4G-calling.png>

    As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.
    For me, it's not about free calls (my contract has unlimited calls/sms)
    it's about better signal in certain places.

    FACK! It is an enhancement not more and not less. But a very important one.


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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 9 00:46:52 2025
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 8 Jun 2025 03:30:42 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2025-06-07 22:55, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.06.2025 22:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE", >>>> but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for
    "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    VOLTE is something completely different. That describes the technology
    that is used for voice calls. It is standard and newer ones use 5G.

    Wifi calling is activated to have better connections in buildings. It is
    the fall back in case the connection in the public network cannot be
    sustained like in large office buildings or in rural areas with weak
    coverage. It is not particularly clever to deactivate wifi-calling.

    It was never active in my phones. I would have to manually activate, and
    the toggle warns me to ask my provider first.

    Isn't that mostly to find out if the provider supports it, especially
    since that the start, few did.

    My wifi calling was not implemented before Thursday night (though for
    some reason the message I got when I entered the command the first time
    was that it was disconnecting it). But I entered the commande one or
    two more times and now in Settings, it says that I have it.

    When I turned off cellular data, it still dials when I'm connected to
    wifi and not while dialing but after the phone answser, it says on the
    dialer screen that it's using wifi. I don't think it records this
    anywhere.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Jun 9 07:53:16 2025
    On 09.06.25 06:46, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 8 Jun 2025 03:30:42 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2025-06-07 22:55, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 07.06.2025 22:29, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-07 21:51, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    I just looked on my two phones, Motorola G52 (4G) and G62 (5G).
    Searching for volte in config finds nothing.

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than "VoLTE", >>>>> but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the >>>> warning to ask first the provider. As I get as many calls as I want for >>>> "free", I see no advantage to try wifi calls.

    VOLTE is something completely different. That describes the technology
    that is used for voice calls. It is standard and newer ones use 5G.

    Wifi calling is activated to have better connections in buildings. It is >>> the fall back in case the connection in the public network cannot be
    sustained like in large office buildings or in rural areas with weak
    coverage. It is not particularly clever to deactivate wifi-calling.

    It was never active in my phones. I would have to manually activate, and
    the toggle warns me to ask my provider first.

    Isn't that mostly to find out if the provider supports it, especially
    since that the start, few did.
    Exactly!


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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jun 9 21:18:30 2025
    On 2025-06-08 09:36, Andy Burns wrote:
    Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    On my Pixel it appears within SIMs as "4G calling" rather than
    "VoLTE", but it doesn't show in a search for either phrase.

    There is one entry on SIM preferences to activate WiFi calls, with the
    warning to ask first the provider.

    <http://andyburns.uk/misc/android-4G-calling.png>

    As I get as many calls as I want for "free", I see no advantage to try
    wifi calls.
    For me, it's not about free calls (my contract has unlimited calls/sms)
    it's about better signal in certain places.

    Ah, that's good to know. But my mobile works fine in every room.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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