Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I picked a friend up at
National Airport. She had called me yesterday on her cell. She had called me today to my cell
to tell me she had landed. But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine for 10 minutes, and then
she called her friend to tell her she landed and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but
then her phone stopped working again.
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. IIt sounds like the battery is low, and on standing slightly recovers.
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
On 2025-06-06 05:37, micky wrote:
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps
before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call
ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
Garbage it.
On 2025-06-06 05:37, micky wrote:
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
Garbage it.
On 06/05/2025 11:37 PM, micky wrote:
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. IIt sounds like the battery is low, and on standing slightly recovers.
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps
before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call
ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
If it were mine I would charge it and see what happens. If possible I
would use a different charger, as the connection on that charger may be >damaged, or the charger burned out.
Once Charged I would do a reset,
and if that fails I would do a factory
reset.
Be aware a Factory reset will loose local data in the internal
storage. If all that failed I would set it in the garbage can.
On my Motorola, there are two resets. One just resets the software, andOnce Charged I would do a reset,You mean a connection reset, right? Okay.
I would suggest take it to a profesional first. Some repair shop in the
area.
Oleg Nazaroff wrote:initial> is normal for fido ...
M>
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 12:54:36 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I would suggest take it to a profesional first. Some repair shop in the
area.
They'll charge the OP even if they can't fix the phone.
s|b wrote:
Oleg Nazaroff wrote:initial> is normal for fido ...
M>
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
Hello, s|b.
On 06.06.2025 22:19 you wrote:
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
Dear sir, would you be so kind as to go to the ass? Since I'm writing from fidonet, I definitely don't give a fuck about your inconvenience.
Hello, s|b.
On 06.06.2025 22:19 you wrote:
S> Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
Dear sir, would you be so kind as to go to the ass? Since I'm writing from fidonet, I definitely don't give a fuck about your inconvenience.
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
Dear sir, would you be so kind as to go to the ass? Since I'm writing from fidonet, I definitely don't give a fuck about your inconvenience.
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
initial> is normal for fido ...
(space):
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:29:37 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
initial> is normal for fido ...
It can't be turned off? Agent can recognize
:
(space)
|
as quotes and will show these in a different colour, but
initial>
breaks this setting. Pretty sure Agent isn't the only newsreader not
handling this well.
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
On 06/06/2025 04:37, micky wrote:
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps
before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call
ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
You should consider reverting to factory settings and re-setting up the
phone again leaving off any dodgy looking apps. Which can be a real
PITA, especially if you don't use a Google account. But it also might be
a hardware fault.
On 06/06/2025 04:37, micky wrote:
Any idea what's going on here? A Xiaomi phone with Android 14 iirc. I
picked a friend up at National Airport. She had called me yesterday on
her cell. She had called me today to my cell to tell me she had landed.
But then her phone stopped working. She had to get some stranger to
call me the next time. Later her son called her and that worked fine
for 10 minutes, and then she called her friend to tell her she landed
and would be coming soon and that worked fine, but then her phone
stopped working again.
When we got to the friend's, I saw that she had 5 bars, but when I
tapped on any of the people she had previously called, it immediately
displayed the dialing page and immediately reverted to the list of prior
calls page. I called the other 2 numbers, the same thing happened.
This was probably when I noticed she had no bars, though I hadn't moved
from my chair.
I reset the bluetooth, wifi, and mobile connections. The bars did not
come back.
I rebooted the phone, the bars did not come back.
I turned on airplane mode, then turned it off. The bars came back.
I made a phone call and instead of revering immediately, it took about a
minute before her phone hung up.
I called someone else. The bars were gone and It reverted immediately.
I turned airplane mode on and off. the bars came back. Repeated 2 steps
before this with same results.
Used airplane mode to bring the bars back again and tried to bring up a
webpage. Got a negative message about not being online, or something.
Connected her to her hostess's wifi, web browser worked fine.
I called her cell from my phone. Got some negative message about her
being unreachable.
Called again just now from my phone. Displays message immediately "Call
ended" and reverted to contact list after 7 seconds, each time.
What's wrong. How do I fix it?
You should consider reverting to factory settings and re-setting up the
phone again leaving off any dodgy looking apps. Which can be a real
PITA, especially if you don't use a Google account.
But it also might be
a hardware fault.
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:29:37 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
initial> is normal for fido ...
It can't be turned off? Agent can recognize
:
(space)
|
as quotes and will show these in a different colour, but
initial>
breaks this setting. Pretty sure Agent isn't the only newsreader not
handling this well.
Agent can recognize
(space):
|
as quotes and will show these in a different colour, but
initial>
breaks this setting. Pretty sure Agent isn't the only newsreader not
handling this well.
On 2025-06-07 13:22, s|b wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:29:37 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
initial> is normal for fido ...
It can't be turned off? Agent can recognize
:
(space)
|
as quotes and will show these in a different colour, but
initial>
breaks this setting. Pretty sure Agent isn't the only newsreader not
handling this well.
Thunderbird doesn't recognize it.
Agent had and probably still has the ability to recognize any number of prefixes as quotation markers.
(space):
When I had 1.93, I had saved a
half-dozen prefixes. They may have been migrated to v5. I can't
rmemeber if I installed v5 anew or over a previous install And options
have been rearranged and I don't know where they are.
I wrote this answer before reading his vulgar response. If I had read
it first, i wouldn't have bothered
Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc.
That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,
and learned about
VoLTE**. I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on?
the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE. Did I get that right?
On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:22:55 -0400, micky wrote:
Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't
know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc.
It's going to be 64, not 48 (it's 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ...)
I work as a volunteer helping people with digital stuff like
smartphones. Past week I've encountered a woman with a malfunctioning
phone with 62 GB of her 64 GB filled. That's just asking for problems.
If her phone has the option of a microSD card I'd advise to buy one and
move data to it. Don't buy too big. You should be able to see on
gsmarena.com what cards are supported.
You can backup pictures to Google Drive and delete them on the phone.
There's a setting to not backup the original size, but smaller. Not too >worry; they will still be big enough. Contact list is on Google Drive as >well.
That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could
connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,
Her carrier needs to support her device as well for it to work.
and learned about
VoLTE**. I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on?
IIRC you can check this with:
*#*#4636#*#*
As for VoWiFi, if the phone supports it I advise to set it to always use >VoWiFi if possible.
the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE. Did I get that right?
I value VoWiFi over VoLTE. In my history, I can see when VoLTE is being
used, so it's active. To my knowledge, there's no setting for this, but
the device needs to be supported by the carrier.
On 07.06.25 14:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-06-07 13:22, s|b wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 21:29:37 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
Please turn that off. A normal quote marker like > will do.
initial> is normal for fido ...
It can't be turned off? Agent can recognize
:
(space)
|
as quotes and will show these in a different colour, but
initial>
breaks this setting. Pretty sure Agent isn't the only newsreader not
handling this well.
Thunderbird doesn't recognize it.
Why should it?
In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 08 Jun 2025 21:51:51 +0200, "s|b" ><[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:22:55 -0400, micky wrote:
Yes, she has lots of stuff in her phone, a long contact list and I don't >>> know what else but she only has 2 gigs empty out of 64 or 48 iirc.
It's going to be 64, not 48 (it's 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, ...)
I work as a volunteer helping people with digital stuff like
smartphones. Past week I've encountered a woman with a malfunctioning
phone with 62 GB of her 64 GB filled. That's just asking for problems.
If her phone has the option of a microSD card I'd advise to buy one and >>move data to it. Don't buy too big. You should be able to see on >>gsmarena.com what cards are supported.
You can backup pictures to Google Drive and delete them on the phone. >>There's a setting to not backup the original size, but smaller. Not too >>worry; they will still be big enough. Contact list is on Google Drive as >>well.
That night I learned about wifi-calling (which would help when she could >>> connect to wifi) and that she had to implement it,
Her carrier needs to support her device as well for it to work.
and learned about
VoLTE**. I did talk to her on the phone and she couldn't find that
option and her phone is newer than mine so maybe on her phone it's
always on. Is that typical for newer phones, VoLTE is always on?
IIRC you can check this with:
*#*#4636#*#*
As for VoWiFi, if the phone supports it I advise to set it to always use >>VoWiFi if possible.
the description on my phone is "Use VoLTE to improve the quality of
voice calls" because, I think, at the time the phone was made, 5 or so
years ago, 3G was everywhere, and now it's nowhere, and now the phone
doesn't work at all unless you turn on VoLTE. Did I get that right?
I value VoWiFi over VoLTE. In my history, I can see when VoLTE is being >>used, so it's active. To my knowledge, there's no setting for this, but
the device needs to be supported by the carrier.
Maybe she'll let me fiddle with the phone when she's seeing the doctor >tomorrow. Little point in replying in detail before then. So I'll have
a more detailed answer afterwards.
In a few days she'd going to her sister near Philadelphia and going to
the Wilmer Eye Clinic there. (She's already had 3 or 4 eye surgeries
after being injured, the last one to replace a lens, that did not go
well enough. But the previous doctors agreed she should try again. Hate
to say it but I'll have a lot more spare3 time when she's gone.
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:39:15 -0400, micky <[email protected]> wrote:
They eye doctor said the previous doctors did a good job, by saving her
eye. Others might have taken it out. But he wouldn't do more surgery
and warned against it becuase it could make things worse. Cause her to
lose the eye. AFAICT the injury -- someone shot at her and part of her glasses went into her eye-- went beyond the lens and to the cornea. This
guy specializes not just in eyes but in corneas. And her good eye is
not all that good either, because of age. Things are distorted with only
one eye. For examples, she can't see curbs and is afraid she'll trip,
and she sees the trees along the road as closer than they are and about
to hit her. And she's afraid she'll be totally blind. I didn't know
what to say to make her feel better.
On 2025-06-11 13:14, micky wrote:
In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:39:15 -0400, micky
<[email protected]> wrote:
...
They eye doctor said the previous doctors did a good job, by saving her
eye. Others might have taken it out. But he wouldn't do more surgery
and warned against it becuase it could make things worse. Cause her to
lose the eye. AFAICT the injury -- someone shot at her and part of her
glasses went into her eye-- went beyond the lens and to the cornea. This
guy specializes not just in eyes but in corneas. And her good eye is
not all that good either, because of age. Things are distorted with only
one eye. For examples, she can't see curbs and is afraid she'll trip,
and she sees the trees along the road as closer than they are and about
to hit her. And she's afraid she'll be totally blind. I didn't know
what to say to make her feel better.
Sorry.
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