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  • Tor Browser 14.5.2 (2025-05-18)

    From D@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 09:43:18 2025
    https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1452/
    New Release: Tor Browser 14.5.2
    by ma1 | May 18, 2025
    Tor Browser 14.5.2 is now available from the Tor Browser download page >https://www.torproject.org/download/
    and also from our distribution directory. >https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/14.5.2/
    This version includes important security updates to Firefox.
    Send us your feedback
    If you find a bug or have a suggestion for how we could improve this release, >please let us know.
    Full changelog
    The full changelog since Tor Browser 14.5.1 is:
    *All Platforms
    Bug tor-browser#43397: Click to play should override "Any capability
    blocked in the top document must be blocked in its subdocuments too"
    Bug tor-browser#43802: Rebase Tor Browser Stable onto Firefox 128.10.1esr
    Bug tor-browser-build#41460: Add brizental to the list of people who can
    sign Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser tags
    *Windows + macOS + Linux
    Updated Firefox to 128.10.1esr
    Bug tor-browser#43635: Console noise due to the x-load capability not
    being localized
    Bug tor-browser#43738: Backport Bugzilla 1947157: Move linux security
    warning content into own page
    *Android
    Updated GeckoView to 128.10.1esr
    *Build System
    All Platforms
    Bug tor-browser#43777: Disable ./mach telemetry
    Bug tor-browser-build#41449: Add prefix to update-responses xml files
    Bug tor-browser-build#41451: When update-responses contains multiple
    versions, .htaccess only has one no-update.xml redirect
    Bug tor-browser-build#41452: Skip update-responses xml files for
    versions which don't have incrementals
    Windows + Linux + Android
    Updated Go to 1.23.9
    [end quoted plain text]

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:19:13 2025
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1452/
    New Release: Tor Browser 14.5.2
    by ma1 | May 18, 2025
    Tor Browser 14.5.2 is now available from the Tor Browser download page
    https://www.torproject.org/download/
    and also from our distribution directory.
    https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/14.5.2/
    This version includes important security updates to Firefox.
    Send us your feedback
    If you find a bug or have a suggestion for how we could improve this release,
    please let us know.
    Full changelog
    The full changelog since Tor Browser 14.5.1 is:
    *All Platforms
    Bug tor-browser#43397: Click to play should override "Any capability
    blocked in the top document must be blocked in its subdocuments too"
    Bug tor-browser#43802: Rebase Tor Browser Stable onto Firefox 128.10.1esr >> Bug tor-browser-build#41460: Add brizental to the list of people who can >> sign Tor Browser and Mullvad Browser tags
    *Windows + macOS + Linux
    Updated Firefox to 128.10.1esr
    Bug tor-browser#43635: Console noise due to the x-load capability not
    being localized
    Bug tor-browser#43738: Backport Bugzilla 1947157: Move linux security
    warning content into own page
    *Android
    Updated GeckoView to 128.10.1esr
    *Build System
    All Platforms
    Bug tor-browser#43777: Disable ./mach telemetry
    Bug tor-browser-build#41449: Add prefix to update-responses xml files
    Bug tor-browser-build#41451: When update-responses contains multiple
    versions, .htaccess only has one no-update.xml redirect
    Bug tor-browser-build#41452: Skip update-responses xml files for
    versions which don't have incrementals
    Windows + Linux + Android
    Updated Go to 1.23.9
    [end quoted plain text]

    *OT*


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  • From Allodoxaphobia@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 18:04:00 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Allodoxaphobia on Tue May 20 18:02:05 2025
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.

    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 18:50:04 2025
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Tue May 20 19:18:45 2025
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 18:50:04 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    Hi Carlos,

    What's interesting is I think something like 95% of people posting to
    Usenet invest about 10 to 20 seconds of effort adding value to their post.

    The next 3% are like Joerg & Alan Baker who invest even less than that.
    Joerg's average is about 3 to 4 seconds, per post, by my calculations.

    What's mathematically interesting is Joerg provides, in those three
    seconds, everything he will ever know about the topic he's posting on.

    Back on topic, this is the original thread as far as I can tell.
    <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=59037&group=comp.mobile.android#59037>

    What's possibly relevant isn't TOR blog article 1452 but 1302 (Android).
    <https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1302/>
    "This release is identical to our 13.0.1 release, but fixes an issue
    with the Android apk version-code which collided with our 13.0 releases.
    This colliding version code prevented us from publishing to Google Play,
    so we have built 13.0.2 with an empty commit in order to generate a
    new non-colliding version code."

    Apparently the OP (not Joerg, but "D") was trying to inform us:

    The Problem:
    The Tor Project released Tor Browser 13.0.1 for Android.
    However, the "version code" (a numerical identifier used by Google Play
    to distinguish different app versions) for this release happened
    to be the same as a previous 13.0.x release.

    The Consequence:
    This "colliding version code" prevented the Tor Project from
    publishing Tor Browser 13.0.1 to Google Play. Google Play requires
    each new app update to have a unique and incrementing version code.

    The Solution:
    To fix this, the Tor Project released Tor Browser 13.0.2.
    This new version is functionally identical to 13.0.1.
    The only change they made was an "empty commit"
    (a technical term for a commit in version control that doesn't
    actually change any code) to generate a new, unique version code.

    The Result:
    This allowed them to successfully publish the app to Google Play.

    Only about 2% of the posters to Usenet actually add any value.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 22:57:47 2025
    On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right Arrow".



    After so many years, you should have learned manners.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Tue May 20 22:53:31 2025
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".



    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 20 22:58:57 2025
    On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right Arrow".

    I don't have any key labelled "Command"

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Tue May 20 23:38:44 2025
    On 20.05.25 22:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    I don't have any key labelled "Command"

    I obviously overestimated your sophistication in computing. Sorry for that!


    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Tue May 20 23:35:38 2025
    On 20.05.25 22:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 22:53, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".



    After so many years, you should have learned manners.

    Mine are definitely more sophisticated than yours ... ;-)


    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Wed May 21 04:02:11 2025
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 22:58:57 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.


    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    I don't have any key labelled "Command"

    Hi Carlos,

    To understand the esteemed Professor Lorenz, you have to realize how
    incredibly ignorant he is. Only then can we possibly understand him.

    I understood him.
    a. He's using an Apple Mac
    b. Which has a command key on its keyboard
    c. He's using Thunderbird

    To understand Professor Lorenz, you have to realize he actually believes everyone on the planet uses an Apple keyboard (which has a command key).

    He's that shockingly stupid.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed May 21 17:52:49 2025
    J�rg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.

    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right Arrow".

    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
    whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
    part.

    Q. What's worse than top-posting.
    A. Bottom-posting.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Thu May 22 11:16:10 2025
    On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it.

    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had
    to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
    whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
    part.

    Indeed.


    Q. What's worse than top-posting.
    A. Bottom-posting.


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Marion on Thu May 22 11:48:25 2025
    On 2025-05-21 06:02, Marion wrote:
    On Tue, 20 May 2025 22:58:57 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it. >>>>>

    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had >>>> to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    I don't have any key labelled "Command"

    Hi Carlos,

    To understand the esteemed Professor Lorenz, you have to realize how incredibly ignorant he is. Only then can we possibly understand him.

    I understood him.
    a. He's using an Apple Mac
    b. Which has a command key on its keyboard
    c. He's using Thunderbird

    To understand Professor Lorenz, you have to realize he actually believes everyone on the planet uses an Apple keyboard (which has a command key).

    He's that shockingly stupid.

    Well, thank you.

    But as Frank points out, one can not shortcut to the end of the post,
    because one doesn't know if there will be inserted text somewhere.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Marion@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Thu May 22 09:59:56 2025
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 11:48:25 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote :


    But as Frank points out, one can not shortcut to the end of the post,
    because one doesn't know if there will be inserted text somewhere.

    Well, given the esteemed Professor Lorenz spends all of two seconds per
    post, I'm sure each of us can find something different wrong with them.

    It's a pain for me to plonk someone, given I have to write scripts to do
    it, but I've gone to that trouble for Joerg as he's never added value.

    His posts subtract value.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Fri May 23 18:04:30 2025
    On 22.05.25 11:16, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it. >>>>
    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had >>>> to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance
    whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
    part.

    Indeed.

    The Troll Slootweg in his epic arrogance and stupidity does not
    understand the message behind it. But that is no news.

    Sad is that this also applies to you, Carlos.


    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Fri May 23 18:07:42 2025
    Carlos E. R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2025-05-21 19:52, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    J�rg Lorenz <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20.05.25 18:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2025-05-20 18:02, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 20:04, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 18:19:13 +0200, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 19.05.25 15:43, D wrote:
    <<--deleted-->>

    *OT*

    Yet, you felt the need to repost the WHOLE DAM THING.

    I did not want to spend more than 1 second in messing around with it. >>>
    But you make us waste a few seconds by paging down to see what you had >>> to say. That is not polite to us.

    After so many years you should be able to use the keys "Command"+"Right
    Arrow".

    Non-'solution', because no one knows (read: *can* know) in advance whether or not you did respond inline, i.e. somewhere in the quoted
    part.

    Indeed.

    AFAICT, ""Command"+"Right Arrow" isn't listed in the list:

    'Keyboard shortcuts - perform common Thunderbird tasks quickly' <https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird>

    So it's anyone's guess what that key-combination is supposed to do,
    not to mention - as 'Arlen' explained - that a normal keyboard doesn't
    have a "Command" key and - adding insult to injury - that people like
    'arrogant and stupid' "Troll Slootweg", don't use Thunderbird, but The
    Ideal Newsreader.

    Q. What's worse than top-posting.
    A. Bottom-posting.

    And *that* is still true.

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