"Carlos E.R." <[email protected]d> writes:
On 2025-03-20 13:10, Graham J wrote:
I know you're all very knowledgeable here, so:
There are groups more appropriate to phone trouble, like
comp.mobile.android or uk.telecom.mobile. I have added them both to
this post, so they will see your post below.
Received a call on my mobile, from a lady in Scotland who says I rang
her landline earlier this morning.� I did not, and my mobile phone
has been sitting on the windowsill (being the only place it can get a
signal) all morning, with nobody near it. The lady used 1471 to find
out who had rung her number, and used it's recall facility to ring
me; so she didn't make any transcription error in dialling my number.
I'm aware that spammers spoof mobile numbers but had always assumed
that they chose unallocated numbers.� That is now apparently no
longer true - unless all you here can think of another way that the
1471 service can see an erroneous number.
I thought Britain had some new regulation about faking the A number in
a call.
I never return phone calls from unknown numbers. Only when I know the
number is from some friend or family I return the call, but I prefer
to let them try again, maybe they got interrupted.
It doesn't yet cover spoofed mobile numbers in caller-id.
On 2025-03-21 12:41, John C. wrote:
Newyana2 wrote:
Graham J wrote:
I know you're all very knowledgeable here, so:
Received a call on my mobile, from a lady in Scotland who says I rang
her landline earlier this morning. I did not, and my mobile phone has >>>> been sitting on the windowsill (being the only place it can get a
signal) all morning, with nobody near it.
The lady used 1471 to find out who had rung her number, and used it's
recall facility to ring me; so she didn't make any transcription error >>>> in dialling my number.
I'm aware that spammers spoof mobile numbers but had always assumed
that they chose unallocated numbers. That is now apparently no longer >>>> true - unless all you here can think of another way that the 1471
service can see an erroneous number.
Not quite the same in the US, but similar. Here spoofed calls
are possible. I've had calls from myself. :) But it could also
be a scam, where someone gets you off balance and defensive,
then pulls some kind of trick.
Scammers/spammers have become so common that I just
don't even answer the phone anymore unless I recognize the
number. If it's a legit call they can leave a message.
I add all such calls to my blocked list. Over time, that's helped reduce
spam calls tremendously. Also, I'm like you in that I won't answer a
call from a number I don't recognize.
Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they rotate
their numbers, you are probably blocking some innocent person, and not
really blocking the spammers. That said, I also block them.
I also use an application that has a huge list of numbers to block, >Truecaller.
I simply use Do Not Disturb, a feature that came on my 5 year old Galaxy
S10+ phone. If the number is not in my contact list the phone won't ring
but will send it to Voicemail. I have Voicemail set to beep once so I can check it if I'm nearby. Dunno how many new phones still have this feature.
So important calls like family, doctors, etc. get through but otherwise
not. To my surprise looking at the missed calls list I've found that only around 1 in 10 non-contact (junk) calls leave a Voicemail, and even then I can easily dispatch it after listening only a few seconds, so IMO I'm ahead in the battle. YMMV...
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 21 Mar 2025 11:23:42 -0400, Newyana2 ><[email protected]> wrote:
On 3/21/2025 8:51 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
Unfortunately, as they are faking the caller-id number, and they rotate
their numbers, you are probably blocking some innocent person, and not
really blocking the spammers. That said, I also block them.
The chance that a number from Columbus, Ohio is a
real person trying to reach me personally is pretty much
zero. Even with the local numbers, a legit caller is very
unlikely.
This approach is not like what you're describing, blocking
a large list of blacklisted numbers. I just get the call and
wait if I don't recognize the number. If they leave no
message, then I block it. If they leave a message, I pick
up and apologize for screening. They invariably chuckle and
say they understand.
I haven't found that scammers are rotating through real
numbers. they seem to use thesame ones repeatedly.
Sometimes they spoof, but often it's things like salespeople
using an actual phone. The same number might call several
times per day. So blocking just a few numbers works well
in my experience. I also set my phone for a silent first
ring, so if someone is blocked I don't even have to know it.
(This is on my landline phone/answering machine. I don't
know about cellphones. I don't turn on my Android phone
often enough to care about scam calls. And I don't give out
that number, so I don't check messages.)
You're a lot like me. I use my landline 95% of the time. I only turn
on the cell when I go out, and not even always then. Only 4 pople have
my cellphone number and 3 of them have probably lost it. (When I was
visiting my brother, a friend of his, his wife, and his son, all called
me, but they called me on my home phone, not my cell! And didn't get
the messages until I got home. )
When the one person who I do want to be able to call me on the cell
calls, and I get home, I hang up and call her back on the landline,
because the sound is better.
I do use NOMOROBO for the landline (where it is free) and sometimes
calls ring once. That usually means nomorobo has forwarded them to the
great beyond.
I simply use Do Not Disturb, a feature that came on my 5 year old Galaxy
S10+ phone. If the number is not in my contact list the phone won't ring
but will send it to Voicemail. I have Voicemail set to beep once so I can
check it if I'm nearby. Dunno how many new phones still have this feature.
So important calls like family, doctors, etc. get through but otherwise
not. To my surprise looking at the missed calls list I've found that only
around 1 in 10 non-contact (junk) calls leave a Voicemail, and even then I
can easily dispatch it after listening only a few seconds, so IMO I'm ahead
in the battle. YMMV...
In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:10:04 -0000 (UTC), AJL ><[email protected]> wrote:
I simply use Do Not Disturb, a feature that came on my 5 year old Galaxy
S10+ phone. If the number is not in my contact list the phone won't ring
but will send it to Voicemail. I have Voicemail set to beep once so I can
check it if I'm nearby. Dunno how many new phones still have this feature.
I thought they all did? Not that I have experience with new phones.
So important calls like family, doctors, etc. get through but otherwise
not. To my surprise looking at the missed calls list I've found that only
around 1 in 10 non-contact (junk) calls leave a Voicemail, and even then I >> can easily dispatch it after listening only a few seconds, so IMO I'm ahead >> in the battle. YMMV...
AJL <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]
I simply use Do Not Disturb, a feature that came on my 5 year old Galaxy
S10+ phone. If the number is not in my contact list the phone won't ring
but will send it to Voicemail. I have Voicemail set to beep once so I can >> check it if I'm nearby. Dunno how many new phones still have this feature.
I don't use/need it, but I've just checked on my Samsung Galaxy A51
(Android 13) phone and the 'Phone' app has a setting ('Block numbers' ->) >'Block calls from unknown numbers'.
I haven't turned that on, so I don't know what it does exactly -
redirect to voicemail? log the number/timestamp? other? -, but at least
it seems to *be* a do-not-disturb setting, however it's not named as
such.
Of course there are also general 'Do not disturb' settings, but they
also cover app notifications and alarms and sounds, not just calls and >messages.
So important calls like family, doctors, etc. get through but otherwise
not. To my surprise looking at the missed calls list I've found that only >> around 1 in 10 non-contact (junk) calls leave a Voicemail, and even then I >> can easily dispatch it after listening only a few seconds, so IMO I'm ahead >> in the battle. YMMV...
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:33:17 +0100
Davey <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:16:48 +0100
JMB99 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote:
The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims
to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are
two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use.
But never say which card!
Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same
message, with the same charges.
I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for
pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for
renewing your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been
exclusively a Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date!
Yup, the Norton one I receive also. I am on Linux as well, and have
also been since 2010.
On 4/28/25 11:13 AM, Davey wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:33:17 +0100
Davey <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:16:48 +0100
JMB99 <[email protected]> wrote:
On 09/04/2025 11:45, Davey wrote:
The one calling site that leaves a message is the one that claims
to be from some charge card company, and tells me that there are
two charges on the card, from businesses that I do not use.
But never say which card!
Well, no, that would be too much information! It is always the same
message, with the same charges.
I have recently had a spate of: "Your package is ready for
pickup..." e-mail messages, and a couple of the "Thank you for
renewing your Norton 360 subscription." ones. Since I have been
exclusively a Linux user since 2010, that is well out of date!
Yup, the Norton one I receive also. I am on Linux as well, and have
also been since 2010.
Somehow I got my Chromebook browser completely locked up saying I had a
virus and to contact xxxx to get rid of it. However since it said it was a
Windows 11 virus I wasn't too worried. But I was surprised that it was able
to lock up the Chromebook completely so that I had to reboot it to recover.
Perhaps Chrome stuff is not really as safe as advertised...
On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:52:51 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
On 9/04/2025 4:55 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Currently, I find that most (not all) junk calls have the caller ID
NAME the same as the number.
WHAT?? So it looks like the Caller is phoning the Caller?? Really??
That'd be a bit of a Give-away, wouldn't it?? ;-)
On Tue, 13 May 2025 22:52:51 +1000, Daniel70 wrote:
On 9/04/2025 4:55 am, Mark Lloyd wrote:
Currently, I find that most (not all) junk calls have the caller ID
NAME the same as the number.
WHAT?? So it looks like the Caller is phoning the Caller?? Really??
That'd be a bit of a Give-away, wouldn't it?? ;-)
IIRC these calls were successful at getting picked up because of
recipient curiosity. They were quite common here (AZ US) for awhile
and actually had newspaper warnings advising folks not to pick them
up...
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