I use my phone to provide a hotspot which tends to work but often stops
working after I've done a bit of fumigating here and there. I haven't
yet acquired the discipline to recheck the hotspot funcionality after
every settings change so I wonder if anyone can suggest of short list of
those most likely to monkeywrench my efforts. As far as I'm concerned if anything has made the hotspot (or any other optional feature) unusable
then that switch should be ghosted, something I have never seen it do.

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bad sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote:

I use my phone to provide a hotspot which tends to work but often stops working after I've done a bit of fumigating here and there. I haven't
yet acquired the discipline to recheck the hotspot funcionality after
every settings change so I wonder if anyone can suggest of short list of those most likely to monkeywrench my efforts. As far as I'm concerned if anything has made the hotspot (or any other optional feature) unusable
then that switch should be ghosted, something I have never seen it do.

The one which bit me was an unexpected data limit, specifically for
the hotspot.

As you have a Sumsung - *always* mention your brand, model and Android version -, I probably can give you somewhat specific instructions:

Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Hotspot and Thethering -> Mobile
Hotspot -> Configure -> Advanced -> Set mobile data limit

HTH.

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On 2/7/25 14:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:

bad sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote:

I use my phone to provide a hotspot which tends to work but often stops
working after I've done a bit of fumigating here and there. I haven't
yet acquired the discipline to recheck the hotspot funcionality after
every settings change so I wonder if anyone can suggest of short list of
those most likely to monkeywrench my efforts. As far as I'm concerned if
anything has made the hotspot (or any other optional feature) unusable
then that switch should be ghosted, something I have never seen it do.

The one which bit me was an unexpected data limit, specifically for
the hotspot.

As you have a Sumsung - *always* mention your brand, model and Android version -, I probably can give you somewhat specific instructions:

Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Hotspot and Thethering -> Mobile
Hotspot -> Configure -> Advanced -> Set mobile data limit

HTH.

It's a zFlip5, One-UI-6.1.1 & Android-14 (what's the diffeence beteween
1UI and Android?) Provider data limit is high, phone data limit and
phone data-warning are OFF. What I meant was that after initial setup
and launch, with no data limit reached and internet connection working
very nicely, one or more OTHER settings eventally cause the hot-spot to
stop connectiong to the internet. That at least is what I suspect
because at such times a factory reset fixes the problem. If I can flag
any such settings then I might be able to manage them.

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On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 15:38:59 -0500, bad sector wrote :

What I meant was that after initial setup
and launch, with no data limit reached and internet connection working
very nicely, one or more OTHER settings eventally cause the hot-spot to
stop connectiong to the internet.

I don't use hotspotting all that much, even though T-Mobile gives me 5GB
per month per line for free but, being kind hearted & purposefully helpful,
I looked at my Samsung Galaxy settings to find one setting it might be...
<https://i.postimg.cc/nzyBm7jP/hotspot.jpg>

In fact, there are two logical settings in that screenshot it might be.

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bad sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote:

On 2/7/25 14:32, Frank Slootweg wrote:

bad sector <forgetski@_invalid.net> wrote:

I use my phone to provide a hotspot which tends to work but often stops
working after I've done a bit of fumigating here and there. I haven't
yet acquired the discipline to recheck the hotspot funcionality after
every settings change so I wonder if anyone can suggest of short list of >> those most likely to monkeywrench my efforts. As far as I'm concerned if >> anything has made the hotspot (or any other optional feature) unusable
then that switch should be ghosted, something I have never seen it do.

The one which bit me was an unexpected data limit, specifically for
the hotspot.

As you have a Sumsung - *always* mention your brand, model and Android version -, I probably can give you somewhat specific instructions:

Settings -> Connections -> Mobile Hotspot and Thethering -> Mobile Hotspot -> Configure -> Advanced -> Set mobile data limit

HTH.

It's a zFlip5, One-UI-6.1.1 & Android-14 (what's the diffeence beteween
1UI and Android?) Provider data limit is high, phone data limit and
phone data-warning are OFF. What I meant was that after initial setup
and launch, with no data limit reached and internet connection working
very nicely, one or more OTHER settings eventally cause the hot-spot to
stop connectiong to the internet. That at least is what I suspect
because at such times a factory reset fixes the problem. If I can flag
any such settings then I might be able to manage them.

Yes, I fully understood all that. The *point* is that there is a
*seperate* data-limit setting, just for the hotspot feature. So it does
not matter if your "Provider data limit is high" and "phone data limit
and phone data-warning are OFF". If the *hotspot* data-limit setting is
set, the hotspot will disconnect when *that* limit is reached.

However the fact that a factory reset 'fixes' the problem indicates
that this setting is probably not the problem, but check it anyway, so
you can rule it out.

BTW, One UI is Samsung's User Interface, mainly for the Home screen
and Apps screens. It sits - sort off - on top of Android. Often a
particular One UI version goes with a particular Android version, but it
can't hurt to mention both. For example I have Android 13 and One UI 5.1.

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On 8 Feb 2025 11:10:34 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote :

Yes, I fully understood all that. The *point* is that there is a
*seperate* data-limit setting, just for the hotspot feature. So it does
not matter if your "Provider data limit is high" and "phone data limit
and phone data-warning are OFF". If the *hotspot* data-limit setting is
set, the hotspot will disconnect when *that* limit is reached.

I agree with Frank and showed a screenshot of my Samsung where there were
at least two extremely obvious ways that what the OP is seeing could occur.
<https://i.postimg.cc/nzyBm7jP/hotspot.jpg>

Until/unless the OP responds by checking his settings, we will only to
continue to pedal without the gears being engaged in forward motion.

However the fact that a factory reset 'fixes' the problem indicates
that this setting is probably not the problem, but check it anyway, so
you can rule it out.

I'm mainly responding to this post because it would seem to me that the statement above I would make differently, since I would think a factory
reset would *definitely* change the two settings that I showed above.

If I'm right, then a factory reset would cure the problem if it resets
those two settings to a default which doesn't limit time or connections.

BTW, One UI is Samsung's User Interface, mainly for the Home screen
and Apps screens. It sits - sort off - on top of Android. Often a
particular One UI version goes with a particular Android version, but it can't hurt to mention both. For example I have Android 13 and One UI 5.1.

My screenshots above are on One UI version 5.1, where I'm sure Frank is
aware of this but maybe others who aren't on Samsungs might not know that
you can change the app launcher (e.g., I use the last known good version of Nova) so I've never used the main portion of One UI customizations.

But Samsung still sticks tons of settings into the Android settings.

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On 2/7/25 18:52, Marion wrote:

On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 15:38:59 -0500, bad sector wrote :

What I meant was that after initial setup and launch, with no data
limit reached and internet connection working very nicely, one or more
OTHER settings eventally cause the hot-spot to stop connectiong to the
internet.

I don't use hotspotting all that much, even though T-Mobile gives me 5GB
per month per line for free but, being kind hearted & purposefully helpful,
I looked at my Samsung Galaxy settings to find one setting it might be... <https://i.postimg.cc/nzyBm7jP/hotspot.jpg>

In fact, there are two logical settings in that screenshot it might be.

Thanks for the screenshots, I'm still many miles from that ability.

Thunderbird shows only two of my postings so if there were more I cannot crosscheck. My 'provider' limit is 100gb, it's my main internet
connection (I have another one that is extremely unreliable). Only once
have I bustred that limit in the last three days of the month.


On my phone the settings come up under:

....Settings/Connections/Data usage

Under Data usage thee are:

...Data saver (OFF)
...Allowed networks for apps
(incoherent, is it networks or apps allowed?)
...Mobile data (ON/OFF)
(should be auto ON if hotspot is ON)
...Mobile data usage
...lists programs that have used data
...Billing cycle and data warning
...Set data warning (OFF)
...Set data limit (OFF)
...Set limit if data limit above is ON

So in this exercise I have already seen more fuckups than I care to
list. Point being that if the hotspot is not working for ANY reason of 'settings' then the switch should be or become ghosted. This is the crux
of my problem. I get the thing going, then I merrily go and do some
fumigation 'like' like deleting the entire google or samsung bubble, the hotspot switch is still on but the connection is dead. There is an alert produced by my computer OS (all of them Linux) that the connection is
enabled but is unable to connect to the internet. This alert should
exist ONLY if I had switched the hot-spot OFF but the cell network was
down (something that also happens far too regularly with shithole Telus
but that's an entirely other topic). Not being all that familiar with
Android, when the above situation exists I have to go through all
related settings (without really knowing them) to find out why. This
should not be necessary, Google puke.

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