The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be
called As-Delivered-Reset?
No, why? The phone left the factory this way. Even if there are provider specific modifications, they still got applied by Samsung when they
delivered the device to Telus.
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be called As-Delivered-Reset?
Since I'm hear to learn ....
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be called As-Delivered-Reset?
Since I'm hear to learn ....
Well, ok. The word is "here". :-)
On 6 Feb 2025 20:44:03 GMT, Allodoxaphobia wrote :
Since I'm hear to learn ....
Well, ok. The word is "here". :-)
Thanks for catching my mistakes. The word is "typo" actually. :)
Nonetheless, I much appreciate the correction, and, to move forward on the topic, I looked it up further and found the factory reset can be complex since firmware remains but a factory reset will remove most of the visible carrier software on your Samsung phone, but some underlying customizations might remain. If you want to completely remove all traces of carrier software, you might need to explore more advanced options like flashing a clean firmware, but this is generally not necessary for most users.
What does factory reset do: A complete guide - Prey Project
<preyproject.com>
Updates may re-install carrier software: If you connect your phone to
the Telus network after the factory reset,
it's possible that some carrier-specific software or settings might be re-installed through automatic updates.
Unlocked phones behave differently: If your Samsung phone is unlocked,
the carrier software might not be as
deeply integrated, and a factory reset might have less impact on carrier-specific apps and settings.
Looking deeper, it seems that during a factory reset...
Carrier-specific apps are removed: Any apps that were pre-installed by
Telus, such as their messaging app,
voicemail app, or any other branded apps, will be deleted.
Carrier settings are reset: Network settings, APN settings, and other configurations specific to Telus
will be restored to their default values. This means you might need to reconfigure these settings to get your phone working correctly on the Telus network after the reset.
Carrier branding may be removed: In some cases, the factory reset might remove or reset any carrier-specific
branding, such as a Telus logo on the boot screen or pre-loaded wallpapers.
Firmware remains: The core firmware of the phone is usually not affected
by a factory reset.
This means that some underlying carrier customizations might still be present, even after the reset.
On 06.02.25 19:11, bad sector wrote:
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be
called As-Delivered-Reset?
Why should it? If you remove the SIM and you reset the phone it has
nothing to do with the network operator and the crap it installs on your property. It is in the same state it was when you took the phone out of
the factory-sealed box.
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be called As-Delivered-Reset?
On 2/7/25 11:31, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 06.02.25 19:11, bad sector wrote:
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be
called As-Delivered-Reset?
Why should it? If you remove the SIM and you reset the phone it has
nothing to do with the network operator and the crap it installs on your
property. It is in the same state it was when you took the phone out of
the factory-sealed box.
I took the phone off the Telus phone-boutique counter, ready to use. So
my question really was about whether a factory reset restores it to the
state it was in when it left the (Samsung) factory where it had
'possibly' also been loaded with an OS, or whether it is reset to the
state when Telus put it into my hand including the crap THEY installed
on it, in addition to the crap that Google vernmin and their ilk may
have installed on it or may be installing on it daily.
On 07.02.25 17:59, bad sector wrote:
On 2/7/25 11:31, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 06.02.25 19:11, bad sector wrote:
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be >>>> called As-Delivered-Reset?
Why should it? If you remove the SIM and you reset the phone it has
nothing to do with the network operator and the crap it installs on your >>> property. It is in the same state it was when you took the phone out of
the factory-sealed box.
I took the phone off the Telus phone-boutique counter, ready to use. So
my question really was about whether a factory reset restores it to the
state it was in when it left the (Samsung) factory where it had
'possibly' also been loaded with an OS, or whether it is reset to the
state when Telus put it into my hand including the crap THEY installed
on it, in addition to the crap that Google vernmin and their ilk may
have installed on it or may be installing on it daily.
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
On 07.02.25 17:59, bad sector wrote:
On 2/7/25 11:31, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 06.02.25 19:11, bad sector wrote:
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be >>>> called As-Delivered-Reset?
Why should it? If you remove the SIM and you reset the phone it has
nothing to do with the network operator and the crap it installs on your >>> property. It is in the same state it was when you took the phone out of
the factory-sealed box.
I took the phone off the Telus phone-boutique counter, ready to use. So
my question really was about whether a factory reset restores it to the
state it was in when it left the (Samsung) factory where it had
'possibly' also been loaded with an OS, or whether it is reset to the
state when Telus put it into my hand including the crap THEY installed
on it, in addition to the crap that Google vernmin and their ilk may
have installed on it or may be installing on it daily.
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be called As-Delivered-Reset?
On 2025-02-07 18:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:[...]
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
I think the customization can come in the SIM.
Carlos E.R., 2025-02-07 19:41:
On 2025-02-07 18:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:[...]
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
I think the customization can come in the SIM.
No. There is not enough storage on a SIM for any kind of customization
of the firmware.
The only customization possible is applying specific profiles for
internet and mobile network access and maybe there will be additional
apps *downloaded* as soon as the device is online. But this should not survice a factory reset.
On 2025-02-07 18:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 07.02.25 17:59, bad sector wrote:
On 2/7/25 11:31, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 06.02.25 19:11, bad sector wrote:
The phone comes from Samsung, the provider is Telus; should this not be >>>>> called As-Delivered-Reset?
Why should it? If you remove the SIM and you reset the phone it has
nothing to do with the network operator and the crap it installs on your >>>> property. It is in the same state it was when you took the phone out of >>>> the factory-sealed box.
I took the phone off the Telus phone-boutique counter, ready to use. So
my question really was about whether a factory reset restores it to the
state it was in when it left the (Samsung) factory where it had
'possibly' also been loaded with an OS, or whether it is reset to the
state when Telus put it into my hand including the crap THEY installed
on it, in addition to the crap that Google vernmin and their ilk may
have installed on it or may be installing on it daily.
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
I think the customization can come in the SIM.
Unless someone has that exact combination, the question can not be
answered unambiguously.
A good hint may be if the very first bootup screen - probably with a
black background - mentions anything related to Telus. If it does, there probably is Telus-specific 'firmware' in the system partition(s) of the device and a factory reset should bring the device back to the way you
got it, i.e. Samsung+Telus stuff (assuming that the "Telus phone-boutique counter" personel did not do anything special to the device which *they*
got from *their* supplier).
On 2025-02-07 21:54, Arno Welzel wrote:
Carlos E.R., 2025-02-07 19:41:
On 2025-02-07 18:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:[...]
Why didn't you tell us this vital information at the very beginning?
In that case you can bet on the fact that Telus ordered a
provider-specific version of the OS and the application software.
I think the customization can come in the SIM.
No. There is not enough storage on a SIM for any kind of customization
of the firmware.
The only customization possible is applying specific profiles for
internet and mobile network access and maybe there will be additional
apps *downloaded* as soon as the device is online. But this should not
survice a factory reset.
No, it can not survive, but if the SIM is inside it will reinit the customization.
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