Is there a way around this, so I can go directly to the BT Tethering settings? I'm using a Pixel 6, Android 15, all updates installed.
I spent many hours writing the tutorial for exactly how to do this.
It's in the archives so you should be able to find it in a search.
In addition, I posted a lot of the same information to XDA because I'm a kind-hearted helpful person who cares to extend knowledge to everyone.
<http://xdaforums.com/t/tutorial-illustrated-mostly-privacy-based-one-tap-shortcuts-so-that-you-can-access-in-a-single-tap-any-buried-android-setting-or-app-activity.4625951/>
This shows me it's possible, but complicated. (-: I'll give it a go.
I spent many hours writing the tutorial for exactly how to do this.
It's in the archives so you should be able to find it in a search.
Got a suggestion for an online Usenet Archive? All I can find is usenetarchives.com which doesn't allow searching (also, archive stops
after 2022).
Can't create a widget either.
s|b wrote on Thu, 26 Dec 2024 14:05:20 +0100 :
This shows me it's possible, but complicated. (-: I'll give it a go.
It's actually easy.
I have written many tutorials on this subject but people don't read.
The below talks about how to create a widget to/of the "settings" menu, and how you can pre-select a sub-item from it (I'm assuming you can still create widgets).
https://www.gtricks.com/android/create-home-screen-shortcuts-settings-sub-items-android/
(Add Settings shortcut widget)
I followed those directions (on a pixel 6) to see if it would work as advertised, and selected, for step 3, "devices" as sub-item. It worked, and might be all you need.
On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 21:01:01 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
The below talks about how to create a widget to/of the "settings"
menu, and how you can pre-select a sub-item from it (I'm assuming
you can still create widgets).
https://www.gtricks.com/android/create-home-screen-shortcuts-settings-sub-items-android/
(Add Settings shortcut widget)
I followed those directions (on a pixel 6) to see if it would work
as advertised, and selected, for step 3, "devices" as sub-item. It
worked, and might be all you need.
I know about the widget, but it doesn't work for me. What I need isn't
under 'Devices'.
Settings > Network and Internet > Hotspot and Tethering >
Bluetooth-tethering
Don't know if the Shortcutter Quick Settings app is of any use. It
hasn't been updated since 2020.
It's actually easy.
I have written many tutorials on this subject but people don't read.
Here's the summary for you since I'm a helpful person to the bone
(but I'm frustrated that it has to be repeated so many times on this ng).
1. Install & open Muntashirakon App Manager (many threads on this).
2. Find the Android SETTINGS package listed inside of Muntashirakon.
3. Go to the "Activities" section and find the activity you seek.
4. Tape the button to create a homescreen shortcut to that activity.
That's it. How hard is that?
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2024-12-27 19:56, Andrew wrote:
s|b wrote on Thu, 26 Dec 2024 14:05:20 +0100 :
This shows me it's possible, but complicated. (-: I'll give it a go.
It's actually easy.
I have written many tutorials on this subject but people don't read.
Just point the link to the howto. Saying that you wrote it here is not
valid. Of course we don't search what you call the archive.
It's also pointless to state "he" has done them because no-one knows under which particular nym was used at the time. Makes it very difficult to find.
If you have
useful tutorials, just post them on a fixed known site, properly
formatted and indexed.
Exactly. I've pointed this out to him in the past, but his paranoia gets
the better of him. Being a known person in the internet is not the same as giving up your privacy. Just ask Satoshi Nakamoto ;)
I only consider tutorials as valid if posted in a fixed website,
properly indexed and formatted.
That's it. How hard is that?
You want me to lick your balls now?
If you have
useful tutorials, just post them on a fixed known site, properly
formatted and indexed.
Exactly. I've pointed this out to him in the past, but his paranoia gets
the better of him.
Do you have a Samsung phone? If so, the Gtricks article says the "Add Settings shortcut widget" method does not work for newer (whatever that means) Samsung phones and you need to "Use a third-party app":
"Shortcutter" [Quick Settings].
In any case, I would try the Shortcutter Quick Settings app. Not being updated in a long time, isn't neccessarily a bad thing. Good software
doesn't have to be fixed/updated every other day! :-( This post is
brought to you by over two *decade* old software!
Carlos E.R. wrote on Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:36:20 +0100 :
I only consider tutorials as valid if posted in a fixed website,
properly indexed and formatted.
I'm frustrated that almost everyone (save for Andy) is a moron on this ng.
The tutorial in question was not only posted to this newsgroup, but it
was also posted to XDA which is exactly what you say you read.
Why didn't you read that tutorial first, before claiming it isn't valid?
Carlos E.R. wrote on Sat, 28 Dec 2024 23:36:20 +0100 :
I only consider tutorials as valid if posted in a fixed website,
properly indexed and formatted.
I'm frustrated that almost everyone (save for Andy) is a moron on this ng.
The tutorial in question was not only posted to this newsgroup, but it
was also posted to XDA which is exactly what you say you read.
Why didn't you read that tutorial first, before claiming it isn't valid?
Do you have a Samsung phone?
On 28 Dec 2024 18:47:22 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
Bob Martin wrote on 31 Dec 2024 07:06:56 GMT :
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
What does a Google Pixel do that is useful that a Samsung Galaxy can't do?
Bob Martin wrote on 31 Dec 2024 07:06:56 GMT :
Do you have a Samsung phone?
Once. Never again. I almost threw that thing against the wall... twice.
I've been using Pixel since Nexus 5X.
Same here.
What does a Google Pixel do that is useful that a Samsung Galaxy can't do?
You asked a question that has been answered a billion times already.
I spend hours and hours writing a tutorial with many annotated images.
So that people like you can do, in seconds, what took me days to learn.
And then you act like that?
Do you at least see why I'm frustrated trying to help people like you?
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI
and modified functions.
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
This is not absolutely bad, some people do like those additions. I do
like them, just not the delay they mean.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business interests.
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business interests.
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:[...]
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.
Of course, but they are still customized and I doubt that they don't
come with any Pixel-only or/and third-party software. And over time the
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>>>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.
I said "fill", because it's the term 's|b' used. I don't consider my phones "filled with crap" or having too much customization.
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Frank Slootweg, 2025-01-03 14:35:
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:[...]
No, google phones come directly without a customization layer.
Of course, but they are still customized and I doubt that they don't
What kind of customizations do you refer to? I don't see any difference between AOSP and Android with Google Services except that AOSP does not provide the Google Services of course. But the UI itself including the
UI and features the system apps is the same.
come with any Pixel-only or/and third-party software. And over time the
Except the Google camera app I don't know any "Pixel only" app. And on
my Pixel 6a I did not find any third-party software at all.
Carlos E.R., 2025-01-02 21:43:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business interests.
Windows itself is still not customized by HP. Recovery is a built-in
feature of Windows, just used by HP to provide their own tool for it.
But you can always create your own recovery setup in Windows without any tools by HP.
And all pre-installed apps can be removed in Windows or you just install
a "clean" version of Windows instead of the one provided by HP.
On 2025-01-03 14:35, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI
and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Hum. No, some manufacturers don't "fill". They add less customization,
like Motorola (Lenovo group). This way updates come faster.
I said "fill", because it's the term 's|b' used. I don't consider my phones "filled with crap" or having too much customization.
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Probably because your phone is high end. AFAIK Samsung does this with
only some models.
Frank Slootweg, 2025-01-02 16:05:
s|b <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 23:06:47 +0100, Arno Welzel wrote:
It provides vanilla Android and not Android mixed with a manufacturer UI >>> and modified functions.
AKA It's not filled with crap from Samsung.
*Every* manufacturer fills their devices with "crap", not just
Samsung.
Only for Google phones, 'we' do not call it "crap", but "vanilla", "standard", "stock", etc..
Because Android on Pixel devices *is* as Google developed it and not
modified by Samsung or any other manufacturer.
Of course Google installs
their own apps on it. But most of these apps can be removed or at least disabled.
The point is, that any feature provided by Android itself is not modifed
as it is usually the case on devices by Samsung, Motorla, Xiaomi etc. - because those manufacturers want to provide a "unique" user experience
by adding their own UI and their own *system* modifications to Android.
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
What execercise? There is no Windows 10 or 11 which is modified by the manufacturer in the same way as Android on Smartphones. You only get a
bunch of apps pre-installed in Windows - but things like Windows
Explorer, Windows settings etc. will always look the same, the no matter
what device you purchase with Windows. Also with Windows comes Edge as default browser, which is not the case for Android devices where you
either get Chrome or Samsung Internet or Xiaomi Browser or whatever the manufacturer decided to provide.
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes
they don't update the phone to the next version after being sold.
And that update comes several months later, because they have to
add again their customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it
is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case
for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year
old Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and
was updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
On 1/4/2025 7:59 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes
they don't update the phone to the next version after being sold.
And that update comes several months later, because they have to
add again their customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it
is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case
for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year
old Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and
was updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
My 5+ year old Samsung Galaxy S10+ is now at Android version 12. I don't remember what the version was when I bought it. It says it was last
updated June 1, 2024. It gives me a big green check-mark in a circle
that says "You're all set! Your phone has been updated to the latest
software version." when I check for updates so guess it's still in the running...
On 1/4/25 11:45 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
AJL <[email protected]> wrote:
My 5+ year old Samsung Galaxy S10+ is now at Android version 12.
I don't remember what the version was when I bought it. It says
it was last updated June 1, 2024. It gives me a big green
check-mark in a circle that says "You're all set! Your phone has
been updated to the latest software version." when I check for
updates so guess it's still in the running...
So it still gets updates, probably mostly security updates, but no
Android version updates, otherwise it would be at Android 15 or
at least 14.
So *when* are you going to toss that stone age phone of yours!?
:-)
Probably when the battery fails. So far for my light use I haven't
noticed any problems (knocks on wood).
The Android version isn't a problem for me. I'm posting with an
Amazon tablet that runs an Android fork at about version 9
and for my use it does just fine. I put the Google Play Store on it
so run most of the same apps as my phone and other toys. It's
actually one of my favorite tablets as it's light, comfortable to
hold, has great resolution, and at the sale price of $75US was
cheap...
AJL <[email protected]> wrote:
My 5+ year old Samsung Galaxy S10+ is now at Android version 12. I don't
remember what the version was when I bought it. It says it was last
updated June 1, 2024. It gives me a big green check-mark in a circle
that says "You're all set! Your phone has been updated to the latest
software version." when I check for updates so guess it's still in the
running...
So it still gets updates, probably mostly security updates, but no
Android version updates, otherwise it would be at Android 15 or at least
14.
So *when* are you going to toss that stone age phone of yours!? :-)
On 1/4/25 11:45 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
So *when* are you going to toss that stone age phone of yours!? :-)
Probably when the battery fails. So far for my light use I haven't noticed
any problems (knocks on wood).
The Android version isn't a problem for me. I'm posting with an Amazon
tablet that runs an Android fork at about version 9 and for my use it does
just fine. I put the Google Play Store on it so run most of the same apps
as my phone and other toys. It's actually one of my favorite tablets as
it's light, comfortable to hold, has great resolution, and at the sale
price of $75US was cheap...
AJL <[email protected]> wrote:
The Android version isn't a problem for me. I'm posting with an
Amazon tablet that runs an Android fork at about version 9 and for
my use it does just fine. I put the Google Play Store on it so run
most of the same apps as my phone and other toys. It's actually one
of my favorite tablets as it's light, comfortable to hold, has
great resolution, and at the sale price of $75US was cheap...
Bummer! So you don't have a real excuse to buy new toys, because the
'old' ones still work and refuse to die. What did you do to deserve
such hardship!?
AJL <[email protected]> wrote:
On 1/4/25 11:45 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
So *when* are you going to toss that stone age phone of yours!? :-)
Probably when the battery fails. So far for my light use I haven't noticed >> any problems (knocks on wood).
The Android version isn't a problem for me. I'm posting with an Amazon
tablet that runs an Android fork at about version 9 and for my use it does >> just fine. I put the Google Play Store on it so run most of the same apps >> as my phone and other toys. It's actually one of my favorite tablets as
it's light, comfortable to hold, has great resolution, and at the sale
price of $75US was cheap...
Bummer! So you don't have a real excuse to buy new toys, because the
'old' ones still work and refuse to die. What did you do to deserve such hardship!?
Arno Welzel <[email protected]> wrote:
Carlos E.R., 2025-01-02 21:43:
On 2025-01-02 16:05, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
Now do the same exercise for Windows and Chrome!
Yes, some companies sell their laptops with a lot of customization. Say
HP. This is not bad per se. The recovery feature is good. But the layer
can include apps that slow the laptop while promoting their business
interests.
Windows itself is still not customized by HP. Recovery is a built-in
feature of Windows, just used by HP to provide their own tool for it.
But you can always create your own recovery setup in Windows without any
tools by HP.
As I indicated in my earlier response, I think Carlos was referring to HP's 'Recovery Manager'. That is indeed not a customization of Windows *itself*, but is *not* using any "built-in [recovery] feature on
Windows". HP's Recovery Manager can - amongst other functions - restore
the system to from-factory condition, *including* all third party
software, from a special reserved 'HP RECOVERY' partition.
HP's Recovery Manager was on Windows 8.1 laptops (and desktops?), but,
as I mentioned, no longer on Windows 11 laptops (well at least not on
mine).
And all pre-installed apps can be removed in Windows or you just install
a "clean" version of Windows instead of the one provided by HP.
On 2025-01-04 16:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
As I indicated in my earlier response, I think Carlos was referring to HP's 'Recovery Manager'. That is indeed not a customization of Windows *itself*, but is *not* using any "built-in [recovery] feature on
Windows". HP's Recovery Manager can - amongst other functions - restore
the system to from-factory condition, *including* all third party
software, from a special reserved 'HP RECOVERY' partition.
Exactly. Actually, my laptop is a Compaq, which at the time was a second
name of HP. The thing came with W7.
It also had an HP tool to update the machine drivers and things, IIRC.
Arno Welzel wrote:
Except the Google camera app I don't know any "Pixel only" app. And on
my Pixel 6a I did not find any third-party software at all.
Thanks. Strange, but if you say so, I accept it of course.
I have two identical tablets. One fell from the bed, the screen cracked, doesn't read the finger, so I bought another tablet. Then I tried to
have the first one repaired; the shop said they could not, but that I
would be able to use the tablet with a mouse (over BT). So I did. I use
that old tablet in the sitting room to cast Amazon Prime videos to the
Google dongle on my TV set (which is not smart).
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Frank Slootweg wrote:
Carlos E.R. wrote:
Samsung phones use to have older Android versions, and sometimes they
don't update the phone to the next version after being sold. And that
update comes several months later, because they have to add again their
customization layer. And in the case of Samsung, it is big.
As you said, that *used* to be the case, but is no longer the case for many years, at least 4+ years, but probably longer. My 4+ year old
Samsung Galaxy A51 lower-range phone came with Android 10 and was
updated to 11, 12 and finally 13.
Isn't the reason for that improving due to introduction of Project
Treble which allows the manufacturers to "slide in" newer versions of
the lower layers of Android?
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
[...]
I have two identical tablets. One fell from the bed, the screen cracked,
doesn't read the finger, so I bought another tablet. Then I tried to
have the first one repaired; the shop said they could not, but that I
would be able to use the tablet with a mouse (over BT). So I did. I use
that old tablet in the sitting room to cast Amazon Prime videos to the
Google dongle on my TV set (which is not smart).
I had the same problem with my very first (Samsung 10.1") tablet. I
used a wired mouse with a USB On-The-Go adapter to connect it to the
MicroUSB port of the tablet. Later a 'computer' shop 'fixed' it. They
could not find anything wrong with it, but apparently taking it apart, reseating all the connections and reassembling it, fixed it. Cost 25
Euro. Not bad IMO. Ten years later, the tablet still works, but with
Android 5 and little storage and RAM, it's not very useful.
Fun tidbit: Recently I used it as a 'media center', mainly for
streaming audio (Spotify, etc.) to my soundbar/subwoofer, but because it
was mostly working badly, I turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth when not in
use (instead of powering it off). In this mode, the tablet used less
than 1% battery capacity *per day* (including waking up the screen to
check the percentage). Impressive! I don't think my current phone will
manage that (with all its radios off).
[...]
Carlos E.R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
On 2025-01-04 16:10, Frank Slootweg wrote:[...]
As I indicated in my earlier response, I think Carlos was referring to >>> HP's 'Recovery Manager'. That is indeed not a customization of Windows
*itself*, but is *not* using any "built-in [recovery] feature on
Windows". HP's Recovery Manager can - amongst other functions - restore
the system to from-factory condition, *including* all third party
software, from a special reserved 'HP RECOVERY' partition.
Exactly. Actually, my laptop is a Compaq, which at the time was a second
name of HP. The thing came with W7.
It also had an HP tool to update the machine drivers and things, IIRC.
The tool was probably 'HP Support Assistant'. It still exists (i.e.
also on my Windows 11 HP laptop). It also contains all kinds of testing
and diagnostic tools. I someone use the 'HP Battery Check' part of it, because that really tests the battery, instead of just reporting the
values from the battery's electronics.
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