Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

Thanks.

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B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

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VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.
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On 21.12.24 03:50, B00ze wrote:

If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. You do not need it.

Before you consider to switch to iOS you should dive into the philosophy
of the Apple universe.


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Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

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On 21.12.24 10:51, VanguardLH wrote:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

Why are you spreading nonsense then? Same here with your nonsense in the Thunderbird-group.

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VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.

But forget iTunes.
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B00ze wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

Thanks.

I've been backing up iPads to Windows PCs for years, using iTunes.
The program is heavy and cluttered, but it does work and it gives me
access to all the books, pictures, videos etc. on the Pad.

I tried out a few other apps, such as iBrowse, but they promised more
than they delivered. And then I found out that they simply browsed the
Windows files created by iTunes. Sneaky devils!

Ed

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On 21.12.24 12:18, Dave Royal wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles >>>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering >>>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.

Total nonsense. No reasonable person would do this. You can try but it
is only for people with a lot of spare time.

But forget iTunes.

iTunes does not exist in the Apple world any more for years now.


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On 21.12.24 12:25, Ed Cryer wrote:

B00ze wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

Thanks.

I've been backing up iPads to Windows PCs for years, using iTunes.
The program is heavy and cluttered, but it does work and it gives me
access to all the books, pictures, videos etc. on the Pad.

My goodness! These things are backed up to the iCloud.


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Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

On 21.12.24 12:18, Dave Royal wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles >>>>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering >>>>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.

Total nonsense. No reasonable person would do this. You can try but it
is only for people with a lot of spare time.

You're right: normal iPhone users would not do it. I mentioned it
because it's the nearest equivalent to transferring (non-camera)
files from an Android to a PC via USB. And I only do it to get
certain files onto or off my iPhone without using a cloud service
- iCloud, Dropbox, etc. Using a cloud service is the easy way to
do it.

Several iOS apps have FTP functions built it, such as my media
player, foobar2000.

But forget iTunes.

iTunes does not exist in the Apple world any more for years now.

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B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

iPhones don't have a filesystem.

Well, of course they do, but they really don't want you to see it.

The way iOS works is it's very app-centric. Apps own their own buckets of
data which only they can see. The way to move things between apps is the 'Share' function, rather than app B opening a file saved by app A.

Of course files do exist outside the iOS world, so places like Photos,
Videos, Music and Downloads have some kind of specialness in that apps can
ask to open files from there (not generically - a photo app can't see
Music). But apps can't open files from other random places, and especially
not files in the buckets belonging to other apps.

Eventually this idea of files being bound to apps became untenable so Apple introduced the Files app which can see the files in app buckets that apps expose to the user. eg if the user exports something as a file then it
appears in that app's bucket in the Files app. Many apps don't use this.

USB is no different, it only gets this kind of filtered view - I think it
only exposes media via MTP by default. You also have to allow access on the phone and unlock it.

The way to get full USB access is as a *backup*, not as file transfer
(commonly called an 'iTunes backup' although in MacOS it's now in the Finder not the iTunes app). That's a special Apple protocol and lands with you getting a full dump of the data from the phone - there are various third
party apps to pick through unencrypted backup files and extract various
things from it, like SMS chat logs. This is not very convenient for transferring a few files.

If you have a Mac there's AirDrop, where you can 'share' things directly
from apps on the iPhone to the Mac, but if you're not on a Mac then you have
to use something else. That's where these third party 'sharing' or 'fileserver' apps come in.

(there's a lot of philosophy here, so some people will say if your using USB you're doing it wrong - wifi needs no cables, can be quicker than a USB 2.0 Lightning connector, can be more reliable, etc. For casual usage they're
maybe right, but USB has its uses too)

Theo

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On 2024-12-21 13:47, Dave Royal wrote:

Jörg Lorenz <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

On 21.12.24 12:18, Dave Royal wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles >>>>>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering >>>>>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>>>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs >>>> under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to >>>> media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple. >>>>
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.

Total nonsense. No reasonable person would do this. You can try but it
is only for people with a lot of spare time.

You're right: normal iPhone users would not do it. I mentioned it
because it's the nearest equivalent to transferring (non-camera)
files from an Android to a PC via USB. And I only do it to get
certain files onto or off my iPhone without using a cloud service
- iCloud, Dropbox, etc. Using a cloud service is the easy way to
do it.

Several iOS apps have FTP functions built it, such as my media
player, foobar2000.

So, you can not simply connect an USB cable to phone and computer and
the explorer pops up and handle the copy of any file in any direction?

How weird.

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On 2024-12-21 13:52, Theo wrote:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

iPhones don't have a filesystem.

Well, of course they do, but they really don't want you to see it.

...

...

Thank you for the summary. Weird world.

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On 21.12.24 14:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2024-12-21 13:52, Theo wrote:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

iPhones don't have a filesystem.

Well, of course they do, but they really don't want you to see it.

...

...

Thank you for the summary. Weird world.

You got stuck in the past. Around the turn of the century.


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Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles >>>>> about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering >>>>> why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do >>>>> I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

No. All you see are photos and videos from the camera.

https://discussions.apple.com/welcome

So you don't need to go there.

Apple likes their walled garden. The article below mentions iTunes.
The OP didn't mention his PC's OS. iTunes runs on Windows. Maybe runs
under WINE on Linux. By its name, not sure if it only allows access to
media folders, or to all folders. Never bothered with anything Apple.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/transfer-files-between-devices-iphf2d851b9/ios

Well, iOS is clearly off-topic as VanguardLH's first answer hints.
So I'll just say, as someone who uses an Android tablet, an
iPhone, Linux and Windows PCs (though not a Mac) that the iOS is
the most difficult to get stuff into and out off and and between
apps - by design - especially if you don't want to use a cloud
service such as Dropbox. I often use FTP.

But forget iTunes.

I see they also mentioned using their cloud service, iCloud, to transfer
files. I've used Onedrive on my Android phone and desktop PC to
transfer files, but it is slow. Since the phone has Android, it comes
with Google Drive which I also on my desktop PC, too. I also have a
Dropbox account, but only used it to share small files. My bandwidth is asymmetric: upstream speed is a LOT slower (22 times slower) than
downstream. Plus, the sync clients are designed to throttle themselves
to reduce impact on net traffic. A USB cable is a lot faster, and a lot
less hassle, but not on an iPhone.

There are apps for both Android and Windows that use the local wi-fi to transfer files; e.g., LocalSend. Google came out with their Quick Share (renamed from Nearby Share) app for Android and Windows. Requires
Windows 10 x64, or later.

https://blog.google/products/android/nearby-share-windows-android/ https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/

No Internet is involved. No external servers are involved. Just wi-fi transfer between devices. The 2nd article says Quick Share is already installed on Android 6+, but I've not seen it. Says I have to setup
"device visibility" in my Google account (for the phone and desktop to
see each other). I've not yet tried local wi-fi file transfer since the
USB cable is so easy for local transfer. For remote file transfer,
there are the slow cloud services.

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VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]

There are apps for both Android and Windows that use the local wi-fi to transfer files; e.g., LocalSend. Google came out with their Quick Share (renamed from Nearby Share) app for Android and Windows. Requires
Windows 10 x64, or later.

https://blog.google/products/android/nearby-share-windows-android/ https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/

No Internet is involved. No external servers are involved. Just wi-fi transfer between devices. The 2nd article says Quick Share is already installed on Android 6+, but I've not seen it. Says I have to setup
"device visibility" in my Google account (for the phone and desktop to
see each other). I've not yet tried local wi-fi file transfer since the
USB cable is so easy for local transfer. For remote file transfer,
there are the slow cloud services.

(On my (Samsung Galaxy A51) Android 13 phone,) I don't see Quick Share
as an app on my app pages. I only see it when I select something (file,
folder, etc.) and then tap 'Share'. Then 'Quick Share' is one of the
share options.

On the Windows side, 'Quick Share from Google' is a Windows program
(in C:\Program Files\Google\NearbyShare), not a Windows 'app'.

I use Quick Share if I only have to transfer a single file or a few
files, a folder, etc.. For larger transfers, I use the USB cable.

'Cloud'!? 'Internet'!? What *are* those!?

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On 21/12/2024, VanguardLH wrote:

I called it an app, because Google did. Haven't use it, so didn't know
if it was a Win32 program, or a UWP app. I rarely share, so I didn't
realize Quick Share was already an option. Never noticed it, or didn't
know what it was, so ignored it along with the myriad of other choices.
Just tested, and, yep, there it is. Thanks for sharing. ;-)

Confusing is the same product name, Quick Share, from Samsung (https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj). Seems to have the
same OS requirements, so maybe it's the same program, except Samsung
says theirs only works with Samsung devices. Both have you download a
.exe to install. Not sure why both wi-fi and Bluetooth are required. I would think just one wireless method would suffice. The Samsung one
gets as many negative votes as positive.

Easiest way to share read/write Android with Windows is to mount it as a
drive letter. Then the Windows file explorer or batch files work wonders.

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Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d> wrote:

VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:
[...]

There are apps for both Android and Windows that use the local wi-fi to
transfer files; e.g., LocalSend. Google came out with their Quick Share
(renamed from Nearby Share) app for Android and Windows. Requires
Windows 10 x64, or later.

https://blog.google/products/android/nearby-share-windows-android/
https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/

No Internet is involved. No external servers are involved. Just wi-fi
transfer between devices. The 2nd article says Quick Share is already
installed on Android 6+, but I've not seen it. Says I have to setup
"device visibility" in my Google account (for the phone and desktop to
see each other). I've not yet tried local wi-fi file transfer since the
USB cable is so easy for local transfer. For remote file transfer,
there are the slow cloud services.

(On my (Samsung Galaxy A51) Android 13 phone,) I don't see Quick Share
as an app on my app pages. I only see it when I select something (file, folder, etc.) and then tap 'Share'. Then 'Quick Share' is one of the
share options.

On the Windows side, 'Quick Share from Google' is a Windows program
(in C:\Program Files\Google\NearbyShare), not a Windows 'app'.

I use Quick Share if I only have to transfer a single file or a few
files, a folder, etc.. For larger transfers, I use the USB cable.

'Cloud'!? 'Internet'!? What *are* those!?

I called it an app, because Google did. Haven't use it, so didn't know
if it was a Win32 program, or a UWP app. I rarely share, so I didn't
realize Quick Share was already an option. Never noticed it, or didn't
know what it was, so ignored it along with the myriad of other choices.
Just tested, and, yep, there it is. Thanks for sharing. ;-)

Confusing is the same product name, Quick Share, from Samsung (https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj). Seems to have the
same OS requirements, so maybe it's the same program, except Samsung
says theirs only works with Samsung devices. Both have you download a
.exe to install. Not sure why both wi-fi and Bluetooth are required. I
would think just one wireless method would suffice. The Samsung one
gets as many negative votes as positive.

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On 21.12.24 19:44, Ed Cryer wrote:

A lot of people jail-break their iPads; but millions don't. They don't
know how to; or don't have the time to learn; or, perhaps, can put up
with the prison shadow while they enjoy the benefits of the Pads.

And Apple, of course, say they're protecting the innocent layman from
the machinations of the criminal hackers.
A moral dilemma. Whose side are you on?

Listen. I use all desktop OSs and iOS and Android every day as an
instructor for two non-profit organisations.

You try to parrot what other people are claiming to know but have just unfounded prejudices but no knowledge.


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On 21 Dec 2024 12:52:51 +0000 (GMT), Theo wrote:

If you have a Mac there's AirDrop, where you can 'share' things directly
from apps on the iPhone to the Mac, but if you're not on a Mac then you have to use something else.

Android has an AirDrop equivalent that works on all operating systems.
I think it's called ShareDrop.

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VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:
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I called it an app, because Google did. Haven't use it, so didn't know
if it was a Win32 program, or a UWP app. I rarely share, so I didn't
realize Quick Share was already an option. Never noticed it, or didn't
know what it was, so ignored it along with the myriad of other choices.
Just tested, and, yep, there it is. Thanks for sharing. ;-)

Confusing is the same product name, Quick Share, from Samsung (https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj). Seems to have the
same OS requirements, so maybe it's the same program, except Samsung
says theirs only works with Samsung devices.

Samsung *phones* (and tablets). The *Windows* (i.e. 'PC') side also
mentions "Windows PC with Intel Bluetooth/Wi-Fi released by other manufacturers"

I think the comment

"Quick Share for Windows PC is currently only available for Samsung
Galaxy devices. Other Android devices will be supported in the future."

is just CYA. And it says "available", whatever that means, and implies
that other devices are not supported, not that they don't work.

Both have you download a
.exe to install.

As I wrote, 'Quick Share from Google' is a normal Windows program.
From the looks of it, it seems the Samsung product is a UWP app. Hence
both are available. (Aren't all things in the Microsoft Store UWP apps?
Or are there also normal Windows programs in that store?)

Not sure why both wi-fi and Bluetooth are required. I
would think just one wireless method would suffice.

Bluetooth is used to find nearby devices. I.e. a device may be near,
but as yet unknown to the other side. 'Wi-Fi' should be read as a
network connection, but because most Windows systems do not have a
mobile data connection, I guess they only mention Wi-Fi.

The Samsung one
gets as many negative votes as positive.

BTW, I have a Samsung phone, but on the Windows side, I use the 'Quick
Share from Google' program. I didn't know there was a Samsung Windows
app, and even if I did, I generally prefer real Windows programs over
apps.

BTW2, 'Quick Share from Google' is not "a Win32 program", but a Win64 program. As said, it lives in ' C:\Program Files\Google\NearbyShare',
not in 'C:\Program Files (x86)\...'.

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B00ze <[email protected]> wrote:

Good day.

I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone, and I see articles
about apps that let ppl share files with their PCs, and I'm wondering
why is there such an app? If I plug an iPhone into my PC's USB port, do
I not get access to the iPhone's filesysten?

Others have already answered your specific questions.

As to "I'm an Android user thinking of getting an iPhone": As you're a Windows user ('PC' != Windows), I would advise against buying/using an
iPhone.

The Android-Windows integration is not great, but there is - as you
have found - some. For iPhone-Windows, there's hardly anything, except
for the iTunes abomination.

Granted, the Windows 'Phone Link' app apparently supports Android
smartphones and iPhones. But with the iPhones being 'closed' and the
Android smartphones being (more) 'open', I think with an iPhone you'll
be in for a disappointment.

OTOH, if you intend to use the iPhone mostly by itself and hardly need
to exchange anything (other than photos from its camera) with your
Windows system, by all means go for it.

FWIW, I've been confronted with the iPhone-Windows limitations. OTOH,
some of my loved ones are an all-Apple houshold and they are very, very
pleased with it, including the *HP* :-) printer.

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From what I read (doesn't guarantee accuracy since it was on the Web) is
that Google's Quick Share was derived from Samsung's Quick Share, but
Google made their variant compliant with more than just Samsung phones.

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VanguardLH <[email protected]> wrote:

From what I read (doesn't guarantee accuracy since it was on the Web) is
that Google's Quick Share was derived from Samsung's Quick Share, but
Google made their variant compliant with more than just Samsung phones.

Yes, Google's Nearby Share merged with Samsung's Quick Share:

'Quick Share lets you send to other devices directly from the Android
sharing menu' <https://9to5google.com/2024/02/01/android-quick-share-direct-share-menu/>

As to what is/does what, there are at least four components:

- Android:

- *My* Quick Share app (and related QS Agent and QS Connectivity apps)
is from Samsung. Probably because 1) Samsung Quick Share predates
the merge and 2) I have a Samsung phone (since 4+ years).

- I'm sure Google Pixel phones and other non-Samsung phones will have
the Google Quick Share app

- Windows:
As mentioned before:

- Google 'Quick Share from Google' Win64 *program*,

- Samsung 'Quick Share for Windows PC' UWP *app*.

N.B. 'Proof' of the merge: (As mentioned before,) The ''Quick Share
from Google' Win64 program lives in "C:\Program Files\Google\ NearbyShare\nearby_share.exe". I.e. the external/icon name is
'Quick Share from Google', but the under-the-hood name is still NearbyShare\nearby_share.exe.

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Frank Slootweg wrote on 23 Dec 2024 14:40:32 GMT :

N.B. 'Proof' of the merge: (As mentioned before,) The ''Quick Share
from Google' Win64 program lives in "C:\Program Files\Google\ NearbyShare\nearby_share.exe". I.e. the external/icon name is
'Quick Share from Google', but the under-the-hood name is still NearbyShare\nearby_share.exe.

I'm not gonna look it up but last I checked in gory detail, the *MICROSOFT*
app on the Google Play Store still had "samsung" in the package name, but that's only from memory so I could be wrong on that.
--
We've all discussed this in the past so if people want to know more, they
can start with where we last left off in the past for a head start (not
you, Frank, but the others who don't read and learn from every post in the newsgroup like I do).

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Thank you all for your replies, I shall consider this if I ever think I
want an iPhone again.

Regards,

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