A Useful Android Advantage: GPS Spoofing.
Yesterday we were driving to San Francisco from Silicon Valley and I
told my son to get us on the wait list for a popular restaurant.
He tried, but the Yelp wait list app uses geofencing and you can't sign
up on the wait list unless you're within a certain distance from the restaurant, apparently five miles, and we were about 15 miles away.
My son has an iPhone. I said to him "well on Android..." and he
interrupted me and said, "yes, I know what you're going to say, GPS
location spoofing."
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful. The other is to try to get a two-day advance permit to
hike "The Wave:" "Two days before desired entry�V Apply using your phone
or other mobile device between 6 AM and 6 PM Utah time two days before
the desired entry date on recreation.gov. You must be within the
designated geofenced area to apply."
A Useful Android Advantage: GPS Spoofing.
Yesterday we were driving to San Francisco from Silicon Valley and I
told my son to get us on the wait list for a popular restaurant.
He tried, but the Yelp wait list app uses geofencing and you can't sign
up on the wait list unless you're within a certain distance from the restaurant, apparently five miles, and we were about 15 miles away.
My son has an iPhone. I said to him "well on Android..." and he
interrupted me and said, "yes, I know what you're going to say, GPS
location spoofing."
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful. The other is to try to get a two-day advance permit to
hike "The Wave:" "Two days before desired entry– Apply using your phone
or other mobile device between 6 AM and 6 PM Utah time two days before
the desired entry date on recreation.gov. You must be within the
designated geofenced area to apply."
sms <[email protected]> wrote:
A Useful Android Advantage: GPS Spoofing.
Yesterday we were driving to San Francisco from Silicon Valley and I
told my son to get us on the wait list for a popular restaurant.
He tried, but the Yelp wait list app uses geofencing and you can't sign
up on the wait list unless you're within a certain distance from the
restaurant, apparently five miles, and we were about 15 miles away.
My son has an iPhone. I said to him "well on Android..." and he
interrupted me and said, "yes, I know what you're going to say, GPS
location spoofing."
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful. The other is to try to get a two-day advance permit to
hike "The Wave:" "Two days before desired entry– Apply using your phone
or other mobile device between 6 AM and 6 PM Utah time two days before
the desired entry date on recreation.gov. You must be within the
designated geofenced area to apply."
After disabling location in Android settings, the Yelp app might not be
able to know your location.
Or, instead of using an app (a web-centric interface), use your web
browser to connect to the restaurant's web site to make a reservation.
In the web browser, first disable geolocation. Can be done in Firefox: about:config -> geo.enabled = false.
I have geolocation disabled in Firefox. None of a site's business where
I am until *I* choose to tell them. Well, they can try using my IP
address for regional location, but that's often a huge radius, like 50
miles.
However, if they cannot manage to finagle your geolocation
automatically, they may reject you outright.
sms wrote on Fri, 29 Nov 2024 14:10:17 -0800 :
A Useful Android Advantage: GPS Spoofing.
Yesterday we were driving to San Francisco from Silicon Valley and I
told my son to get us on the wait list for a popular restaurant.
He tried, but the Yelp wait list app uses geofencing and you can't sign
up on the wait list unless you're within a certain distance from the
restaurant, apparently five miles, and we were about 15 miles away.
My son has an iPhone. I said to him "well on Android..." and he
interrupted me and said, "yes, I know what you're going to say, GPS
location spoofing."
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful. The other is to try to get a two-day advance permit to
hike "The Wave:" "Two days before desired entry�V Apply using your phone
or other mobile device between 6 AM and 6 PM Utah time two days before
the desired entry date on recreation.gov. You must be within the
designated geofenced area to apply."
Steve is correct that you can't do something even this simple on iOS.
And yet, it's extremely useful for anyone, even as nospam would say it's
*not needed* & *not wanted*
Simply because Apple doesn't have the technical knowhow to implement it.
In fact, this native GPS location spoofing can be used whenever a program
or web site "thinks" it needs your location - where I use it mostly because some programs require GPS location when they don't actually "need" it.
For example, graphical Wi-Fi & cellular debuggers "require" your GPS radio
to be on, but you know where you are - so they don't actually "need" it.
But you have to give them your location - so - you spoof it. Here's how:
1. Download a mock-location app
2. Turn on Developer options
3. Set the mock-location app
4. Run the app
The mock-location app I use most is Lexa but there are many to choose from.
I chose Lexa as the Skyica App Finder lists it as the best rated, but other apps will spoof Wi-Fi providers too, and other apps will move along a road, etc., which I found when I tested every Android fake-GPS app a while ago.
Fake GPS location by Lexa
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lexa.fakegps>
Fake GPS Location - LocaEdit
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobile.fakelocation>
Mocation Fake Location by Rasfar
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rasfar.mock.location>
DS Fake GPS Location by Disciple Skies
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.discipleskies.mock_location_spoofer>
Mock Location and More by Vyrazu Labs
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vyrazu.mocklocationfakegps>
Cartage - Fake GPS Location by Mock Applications
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mock.cartage>
Fake GPS: Location spoofer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=project.listick.fakegps>
AnyGo GPS Spoofer: Fake GPS
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.luckydog.anygoapp>
Mock Loc
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mocker.mockloc>
Fake GPS Location Spoofer by Fast Video Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fake.gps.location.changer.spoof.location>
Movable Mock GPS by Tomer Brosh
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bomerapps.movablemockgps>
GPS Locker Fake your location by Foxbyte Code
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxbytecode.gpslocker>
Fake GPS Phone Location by Selfie Photo Editor
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=find.my.friends.family.gps.location.tracker>
GPS Spoofer MH Tool - Loc Spoof by liqiyu
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.irocket.locspoof>
GPS Location Change - Joystick by LovMoMo
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.momo.fakegps.locationchanger>
AnyGo-AnyTo Change Location by dcxhwsj
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iFoneTool.AnyGo>
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.True, it is built into Surfshark (for Android only).
After disabling location in Android settings, the Yelp app might not be
able to know your location.
Or, instead of using an app (a web-centric interface), use your web
browser to connect to the restaurant's web site to make a reservation.
In the web browser, first disable geolocation. Can be done in Firefox: about:config -> geo.enabled = false.
On 11/29/2024 7:56 PM, Cameo wrote:
<snip>
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.True, it is built into Surfshark (for Android only).
On an iPhone you can connect the phone to a computer and use iAnyGo,
$89.95 for a lifetime license.
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have
fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
On 11/29/2024 7:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
<snip>
After disabling location in Android settings, the Yelp app might not be
able to know your location.
Nope, doesn't work if you disable location.
Or, instead of using an app (a web-centric interface), use your web
browser to connect to the restaurant's web site to make a reservation.
In the web browser, first disable geolocation. Can be done in Firefox:
about:config -> geo.enabled = false.
Nope, no reservations at this place for breakfast or lunch, just an
online wait list. "During BRUNCH (THUR-SUN), we offer a live online
waitlist through Yelp. Check live wait times and join the waitlist
before you arrive below."
Here's a dialogue about a different restaurant:
"Others have stated you can do it via the Yelp app, *however* they
require that you be physically located within 5 miles of the restaurant,
so you can't get on the waitlist if you're too far away!
(Pro tip: there are apps that let your phone believe you're physically located somewhere other than where you actually are. ;-) )"
There is actually location spoofing detection software in use in some
games like Pokemon Go. I think that they compare your IP address to your
GPS location so the workaround is to also use a VPN.
On 11/29/2024 7:56 PM, Cameo wrote:
<snip>
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.True, it is built into Surfshark (for Android only).
On an iPhone you can connect the phone to a computer and use iAnyGo,
$89.95 for a lifetime license.
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful. The other is to try to get a two-day advance permit to
hike "The Wave:"
On an iPhone you can connect the phone to a computer and use iAnyGo,But that would not let me use it away from the computer, right?
$89.95 for a lifetime license.
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful.
Is it actually an advantage, if you don't make use of it?
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful.
Do you ever check traffic near home while you're using your mobile device? <https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3572114,-121.9626943,12z/data=!5m1!1e1>
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful.
Is it actually an advantage, if you don't make use of it?
Curious is me. You weren't posting to ask how to spoof GPS location,
but posting to announce something Android has but iOS does not. Which
what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone? 27 are listed at:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20spoof&c=apps
Andy Burns wrote on Sat, 30 Nov 2024 10:25:05 +0000 :
This is the second instance I am aware of where GPS location spoofing
would be useful.
Is it actually an advantage, if you don't make use of it?
Do you ever check traffic near home while you're using your mobile device?
<https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3572114,-121.9626943,12.68z>
Do you want to maintain your location privacy while checking that traffic?
<https://www.google.com/maps/@37.3572114,-121.9626943,12z/data=!5m1!1e1>
I often check traffic using that Google web URL for my local Silicon Valley area where at a glance I can easily tell the red from the green zones.
Since I'm familiar with my home area, a simple "color" glance tells me
which direction has less traffic (e.g., up 85 to 101 or up 880 to 101).
Why should I give Google my (so-called) "precise location" (or even my
course location) just to check the colors in that local traffic report?
With mock location (aka GPS fake location spoofing) we can tap on that web URL to Google's web browser map interface to see Silicon Valley traffic.
And Google has no idea where we are (Firefox also, if we were to use it).
--
Note that "precise location" requires spoofing Wi-Fi AP to report nothing.
VanguardLH wrote:
Curious is me. You weren't posting to ask how to spoof GPS location,
but posting to announce something Android has but iOS does not. Which
what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone? 27 are listed at:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20spoof&c=apps
You're using the wrong search engine. Use the app people put on the phone.
Curious is me. You weren't posting to ask how to spoof GPS location,
but posting to announce something Android has but iOS does not. Which
what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone? 27 are listed at:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20spoof&c=apps
You're using the wrong search engine. Use the app people put on the phone.
Oh, so you're keeping it a secret.
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 14:55:27 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Oh, so you're keeping it a secret.Curious is me. You weren't posting to ask how to spoof GPS location,
but posting to announce something Android has but iOS does not. Which >>>> what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone? 27 are listed at:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=gps%20spoof&c=apps
You're using the wrong search engine. Use the app people put on the phone. >>
It can't be that much of a secret since I saw someone previously mentioned
it in this thread which he said was his search engine app on his phone.
In addition to the search app, someone also suggested in this thread what
the best gps spoofing apps were (which that search app finds for you).
Maybe you don't read all the posts in this thread but that's not my fault
as I shouldn't be required to teach you what you didn't bother to read.
Me: "Which what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone?"
That was addressed to sms, not to you, Andrew, and anyone else in this discussion. It is unclear from sms remarks if he uses a GPS spoofing
app at all, or merely commented that it's possible on Android as a jibe against iOS.
Andrew made a list, but does he really use ALL those apps? No, he just
did a search, and spewed out the search hits.
That doesn't [mean] any of them are good nor indicate which is best.
I already did the "gps" search at
play.google.com, and mentioned that, but I didn't go listing every
search hit. I was prodding for recommendations. Just because someone
uses an app doesn't mean they stuck with it, and might've changed to
another one until they found a best choice. Andrew can publish a large
a lists as he wants that are merely search hits at play.google.com, or elsewhere (e.g., fdroid.com).
A dictionary doesn't teach how to write.
On 11/29/2024 7:56 PM, Cameo wrote:
<snip>
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.True, it is built into Surfshark (for Android only).
On an iPhone you can connect the phone to a computer and use iAnyGo,
$89.95 for a lifetime license.
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have
fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
VanguardLH wrote on Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:38:09 -0600 :
Me: "Which what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone?"
I can help answer all your questions, VanGuardLH, because not only am I an extremely helpful person, but I've tested EVERY single free ad free mock location app there is (and wrote about them on this ng many times).
Given I've tested them all, it's likely perhaps that I probably know more about GPS spoofing than anyone on this newsgroup, so I can help you too.
sms, 2024-11-30 06:12:
On 11/29/2024 7:56 PM, Cameo wrote:
<snip>
Should be built-in in a good VPN app.True, it is built into Surfshark (for Android only).
On an iPhone you can connect the phone to a computer and use iAnyGo,
$89.95 for a lifetime license.
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have
fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
Only, if that "abusive spouse" knows how to do the tracking. Without >permission no one can just track others people phones. And if the
"abusive spouse" works at a telecommunication provider he may have the >location without any GPS at all, since the mobile network base stations >always know what devices are near them.
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have
fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
How many abused spouses would even have a clue on how to set that up?
Only, if that "abusive spouse" knows how to do the tracking. Without >>permission no one can just track others people phones. And if the
"abusive spouse" works at a telecommunication provider he may have the >>location without any GPS at all, since the mobile network base stations >>always know what devices are near them.
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device. For
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to check
on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do have the account
password since I've always controlled the family electronics. And I suspect
an abusive spouse could easily do the same thing, no fancy-dancy
electronics or tracking experience needed...
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device. ForYeah, I'm a non-abusive spouse but we have location sharing turned on.
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to check
on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do have the account password since I've always controlled the family electronics. And I suspect an abusive spouse could easily do the same thing, no fancy-dancy
electronics or tracking experience needed...
I tried to fake my location to my old US residence via SurfShark VPN, but
the AppStore could not be fooled with that. Interestingly, the AppStore
does not have this restriction with a similar FldeIity funds app where I
also keep part of my 401K savings. I wish you or somebody else could help
me overcome this problem.
AJL wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:24:51 -0000 (UTC) :
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have >>>> fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
How many abused spouses would even have a clue on how to set that up?
How many people with plumbing repairs hire a plumber to do the dirty work?
All the "abusive spouse" needs to do is hire someone to track his/her
spouse, so the mere fact that they 'can be tracked' is the problem set.
Only, if that "abusive spouse" knows how to do the tracking. Without >>>permission no one can just track others people phones. And if the >>>"abusive spouse" works at a telecommunication provider he may have the >>>location without any GPS at all, since the mobile network base stations >>>always know what devices are near them.
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device. For
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to check >> on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do have the account >> password since I've always controlled the family electronics. And I suspect >> an abusive spouse could easily do the same thing, no fancy-dancy
electronics or tracking experience needed...
Anyone with physical access to any computing device can add spyware to it. >Anyone with money can hire someone to add that spyware even without access.
The problem set is that you "can" be tracked; not that it takes knowledge
to do it, which is a reason Apple tracking was reviled earlier this year.
*Apple Geolocation API Exposes Wi-Fi Access Points Worldwide* <https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint-security/apple-geolocation-api-exposes-wi-fi-access-points-worldwide>
On 12/2/24 10:36 AM, Andrew wrote:
AJL wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 16:24:51 -0000 (UTC) :
GPS spoofing can also be a safety thing for victims of abuse that have >>>>> fled an abusive spouse and that want to prevent tracking.
How many abused spouses would even have a clue on how to set that up?
How many people with plumbing repairs hire a plumber to do the dirty work?
Me. But all the work is done safely and legally.
All the "abusive spouse" needs to do is hire someone to track his/her >>spouse, so the mere fact that they 'can be tracked' is the problem set.
Hire someone to track a spouse? Bad idea on both legal and criminal grounds.
Only, if that "abusive spouse" knows how to do the tracking. Without >>>>permission no one can just track others people phones. And if the >>>>"abusive spouse" works at a telecommunication provider he may have the >>>>location without any GPS at all, since the mobile network base stations >>>>always know what devices are near them.
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device. For
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to check >>> on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do have the account >>> password since I've always controlled the family electronics. And I suspect
an abusive spouse could easily do the same thing, no fancy-dancy
electronics or tracking experience needed...
Anyone with physical access to any computing device can add spyware to it. >>Anyone with money can hire someone to add that spyware even without access.
Hire someone to mess with my computer? Bad idea on security grounds.
The problem set is that you "can" be tracked; not that it takes knowledge >>to do it, which is a reason Apple tracking was reviled earlier this year.
Of course. My granddaughter always tracks her kids. Loves the capability.
*Apple Geolocation API Exposes Wi-Fi Access Points Worldwide*
<https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint-security/apple-geolocation-api-exposes-wi-fi-access-points-worldwide>
But I wonder about Wi-Fi only iPads since Apple forgot to include GPS capability.
On most Android tablets, even those without cellular
connectivity, there is still a GPS so apps that require a GPS, like
offline mapping, will still work.
AJL wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 18:13:34 -0000 (UTC) :
How many people with plumbing repairs hire a plumber to do the
dirty work?
Me. But all the work is done safely and legally.
Rest assured, living in the boonies myself, I do all my well pump
and septic work,
I take care of my own pool,
I cut down trees to burn for firewood myself,
I trench for my (off-grid) guerrilla solar setup,
I do my own electrical work, and plumbing repairs,
I refill my carbon dioxide sodastream canisters at home, I refill my
one pound propane tanks from my 20 pounders which themselves are
filled from my thousand-gallon propane tank,
I refill the vehicles with gasoline myself at home, my cars are 30
years old and I do all the maintenance & repairs, including changing
the tires when they're worn and balancing them at home, etc.
But my point was that the fact you "can" be tracked is more important
than if the person who wants to track you "knows how" to do it
- since they can always hire someone to do that dirty work for them.
If someone is going to track a spouse, I doubt they care if it's
legal or not, but I even doubt whether or not it's illegal if no
court order is involved. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. Neither are
you I presume. I suspect it's perfectly legal to "track a spouse" as
long as you don't break a law (e.g., violating a court order) in
doing so.
The privacy hole is that you "can" be tracked. Not that you "are"
tracked, since you will likely never know if you're actually being
tracked.
It's so easy to add a keylogger to any computing device, it's not
funny. Anyone with physical access can do anything to most
computers.
Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:
Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote on Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:38:09 -0600 :Since you mentioned VanGuardLH here, it provides me an excuse to bring up
Me: "Which what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone?"
I can help answer all your questions, VanGuardLH, because not only am I an >>> extremely helpful person, but I've tested EVERY single free ad free mock >>> location app there is (and wrote about them on this ng many times).
Given I've tested them all, it's likely perhaps that I probably know more >>> about GPS spoofing than anyone on this newsgroup, so I can help you too. >>>
an annoing geolocation issue regarding the iOS version in the Vanguard app >> of the Vanguard Funds investment firm where I keep some of my self-managed >> 401K savings.
Their app that is virtually identical on Android an iOS, does not allow
download to locations outside of US claiming some security concerns.
Interestingly though Vanguard allows the app to work anywhere as long as it >> was downloaded and installed in the US. This restriction does not apply to >> the Android version. So this means I cannot use the iOS version now because >> I bought my first iPhone in Hungary and tried to use the app on my iPhone
15. Luckily I can use the app on my old degraded Android phone that I
brought with me from the US. But I don’t want to go back to that slow old >> phone, just for this reason. What is puzzling is that the iOS app would
work here if it was installed in the US before leaving the country.
I tried to fake my location to my old US residence via SurfShark VPN, but
the AppStore could not be fooled with that. Interestingly, the AppStore
does not have this restriction with a similar FldeIity funds app where I
also keep part of my 401K savings. I wish you or somebody else could help >> me overcome this problem.
This sounds like a Vanguard issue. Have you contacted them?
On 12/2/24 1:48 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:[...]
[...]Only, if that "abusive spouse" knows how to do the tracking. Without
permission no one can just track others people phones. And if the
"abusive spouse" works at a telecommunication provider he may have the
location without any GPS at all, since the mobile network base stations
always know what devices are near them.
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device. For
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to check
on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do have the account
password since I've always controlled the family electronics. And I suspect
an abusive spouse could easily do the same thing, no fancy-dancy
electronics or tracking experience needed...
Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:
Chris <[email protected]> wrote:
Cameo <[email protected]d> wrote:Yes, but the guys you get on the phone don’t know much about tech issues. >> They know about financial ones, mostly.
Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote on Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:38:09 -0600 :Since you mentioned VanGuardLH here, it provides me an excuse to bring up >>>> an annoing geolocation issue regarding the iOS version in the Vanguard app
Me: "Which what GPS spoofing app do you use on your phone?"
I can help answer all your questions, VanGuardLH, because not only am I an
extremely helpful person, but I've tested EVERY single free ad free mock >>>>> location app there is (and wrote about them on this ng many times).
Given I've tested them all, it's likely perhaps that I probably know more >>>>> about GPS spoofing than anyone on this newsgroup, so I can help you too. >>>>>
of the Vanguard Funds investment firm where I keep some of my self-managed >>>> 401K savings.
Their app that is virtually identical on Android an iOS, does not allow >>>> download to locations outside of US claiming some security concerns.
Interestingly though Vanguard allows the app to work anywhere as long as it
was downloaded and installed in the US. This restriction does not apply to >>>> the Android version. So this means I cannot use the iOS version now because
I bought my first iPhone in Hungary and tried to use the app on my iPhone >>>> 15. Luckily I can use the app on my old degraded Android phone that I
brought with me from the US. But I don’t want to go back to that slow old
phone, just for this reason. What is puzzling is that the iOS app would >>>> work here if it was installed in the US before leaving the country.
I tried to fake my location to my old US residence via SurfShark VPN, but >>>> the AppStore could not be fooled with that. Interestingly, the AppStore >>>> does not have this restriction with a similar FldeIity funds app where I >>>> also keep part of my 401K savings. I wish you or somebody else could help >>>> me overcome this problem.
This sounds like a Vanguard issue. Have you contacted them?
They will have a tech team. Raise a support ticket.
AJL, 2024-12-02 17:24:
My wife's iPhone is easy to track from any browser of any device.
For
But only because you or your wife have set this up once.
example I sometimes use this Amazon Fire tablet I'm posting with to
check on her location when she's late getting home. Course I do
have the account password since I've always controlled the family
electronics. And I suspect an abusive spouse could easily do the
same thing, no fancy-dancy electronics or tracking experience
needed...
As I said - one has to know how to do it.
If I would have to deal with a bad ex partner the first thing I would
do is to change all my account passwords and get personal accounts
for my own as well.
They will have a tech team. Raise a support ticket.This geofencing is a deliberate policy from Vanguard as the message
indicated when I tried to download the app from the AppStore, so I doubt a tech guy would go against it, For whatever reason, they think the Apple platform is not secure for their app, but Android is. Go, figure.
Rest assured, living in the boonies myself, I do all my well pump
and septic work,
City water here. City sewer here. Been in this house 24 years. No
problems (yet).
I take care of my own pool,
Three HOA pools here. No maintenance for me...
I cut down trees to burn for firewood myself,
Kill trees to pollute the atmosphere? Shame.
I trench for my (off-grid) guerrilla solar setup,
No solar here. Shame on me. But then my electricity comes from the
nuclear plant 30 miles away so maybe no shame on me??
I do my own electrical work, and plumbing repairs,
No electrical problems yet but I do call the plumber from time to time.
I refill my carbon dioxide sodastream canisters at home, I refill my
one pound propane tanks from my 20 pounders which themselves are
filled from my thousand-gallon propane tank,
Nothing like that here.
I refill the vehicles with gasoline myself at home, my cars are 30
years old and I do all the maintenance & repairs, including changing
the tires when they're worn and balancing them at home, etc.
Love those gas stations down the street. My cars a year old now so all repairs are warranty.
But my point was that the fact you "can" be tracked is more important
than if the person who wants to track you "knows how" to do it
Of course I can be tracked. I can't think of anyone who would want to
track me though. It would be very boring for them...
- since they can always hire someone to do that dirty work for them.
I suppose. Sounds like a bit of paranoia thinking to me though.
If someone is going to track a spouse, I doubt they care if it's
legal or not, but I even doubt whether or not it's illegal if no
court order is involved. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. Neither are
you I presume. I suspect it's perfectly legal to "track a spouse" as
long as you don't break a law (e.g., violating a court order) in
doing so.
Agreed. A court order is likely needed for a spouse. But hiring someone
to do the spouse tracking can likely be illegal.
The privacy hole is that you "can" be tracked. Not that you "are"
tracked, since you will likely never know if you're actually being
tracked.
Agreed. So can you. Go to the doctor? It's online. Pay taxes? It's
online. Use a credit card? It's online. Have a bank account? It's
online. Etc etc etc. All available to the computer bad guys (and office personnel). And you'll probably never know they're (gasp) looking at it...
It's so easy to add a keylogger to any computing device, it's not
funny. Anyone with physical access can do anything to most
computers.
They'd have to break into my house to have access to my toys. If that
happens I suspect the toys would be gone, not key-logged. And unlike you
I keep all my home stuff locked (even my phone) with 5 digit pins so as
to give me time to change the necessary passwords...
Cameo wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:15:12 -0000 (UTC) :
They will have a tech team. Raise a support ticket.This geofencing is a deliberate policy from Vanguard as the message
indicated when I tried to download the app from the AppStore, so I doubt a >> tech guy would go against it, For whatever reason, they think the Apple
platform is not secure for their app, but Android is. Go, figure.
I do not understand the problem, but I will say on that last topic that
only in Apple's (brilliant) advertising is an iPhone more secure than Android.
In the real world, the iPhone is the most exploited phone in history. <https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
As for getting around geofencing, what I'd suggest is change the IP address (which is easy to do) and then change the DNS engine (also easy to do), and then turn off any Wi-Fi scanning (which Google devilishly auto turns on!).
Sometimes when I download apps, I have to spoof the language and other
times I have to spoof the API level & even spoof the phone make & model.
Of course, you also turn on mock location so that you spoof your location. All that privacy is easy on Android - but impossible with iOS (as usual).
Apple products are only "private" in the (admittedly brilliant) Apple ads.
AJL wrote on Mon, 2 Dec 2024 13:35:41 -0700 :
Go to the doctor? It's online. Pay taxes? It's online. Use a credit
card? It's online. Have a bank account? It's online. Etc etc etc.
All available to the computer bad guys (and office personnel).
Every time some lady in an office tells me she needs my identifying information and then she says they "protect" it, I give her an
earful.
They'd have to break into my house to have access to my toys. If
that happens I suspect the toys would be gone, not key-logged. And
unlike you I keep all my home stuff locked (even my phone) with 5
digit pins so as to give me time to change the necessary
passwords...
As you know, I have no passwords or pins on my computer devices,
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