• Switching off a Samsung phone

    From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 05:18:23 2024
    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?




    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Ralph Fox@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Nov 27 18:08:10 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?


    Mr. Google says to try these:

    1. <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot

    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
    will feel it vibrate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    2. <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Restart your Samsung Galaxy

    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
    1. With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
    Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
    without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
    Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
    2. Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    3. <https://drfone.wondershare.com/samsung/turn-off-samsung-phone-without-touch-screen.html>

    4. <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=restart+samsung+phone+without+screen>


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    Kind regards
    Ralph Fox
    🦊️

    Sure bind sure find.

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  • From Larry Wolff@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Tue Nov 26 23:53:51 2024
    On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 27 07:24:24 2024
    On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 23:53:51 -0500, Larry Wolff
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

    Not to my knowledge.


    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 07:39:47 2024
    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?


    Mr. Google says to try these:

    1. <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot

    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
    will feel it vibrate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    2. <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Restart your Samsung Galaxy

    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
    1. With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
    Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
    without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
    Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
    2. Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Thanks very much, will try that!





    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Nov 27 09:21:35 2024
    Steve Hayes wrote:

    I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30
    seconds doing a reboot ...

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 27 11:44:11 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?


    Mr. Google says to try these:

    1. <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot

    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
    will feel it vibrate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    2. <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Restart your Samsung Galaxy

    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
    1. With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
    Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
    without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
    Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
    2. Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have 7 seconds. Now I have 10 seconds. Does anyone offer 20 seconds?



    3. <https://drfone.wondershare.com/samsung/turn-off-samsung-phone-without-touch-screen.html>

    4. <https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=restart+samsung+phone+without+screen>

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 27 11:42:39 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.

    Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Nov 27 11:45:15 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:21:35 +0000, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

    Steve Hayes wrote:

    I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30 >seconds doing a reboot ...

    Good. I knew someone would offer more than 10 seconds.

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  • From Larry Wolff@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Nov 27 12:29:59 2024
    On 11/26/2024 9:24 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

    Not to my knowledge.

    Next time, before a phone screen becomes unresponsive, turn on Developer options USB debugging so that you can interact with the phone from a PC.

    You don't need the screen to respond if you had USB debugging turned on.

    The PC can do anything you want to the phone over the USB cable then.

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Nov 27 12:28:25 2024
    On 11/27/2024 11:42 AM, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.

    Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
    Check the manual for your phone, or do an online search. In my
    experience you can force a reboot or reset using the physical power
    button and one of the volume buttons on the phone. They are usually on
    the side edge of the phone. With my motorola phone, I can get to this
    screen by holding the power and down volume buttons at the same time and
    keep pressing them until the reboot/reset screen appears.

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  • From David Oseas@21:1/5 to micky on Wed Nov 27 09:45:25 2024
    On 11/27/2024 8:42 AM, micky wrote:


    You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.

    Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.


    Sorry, that only works for iPhones

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to knuttle on Wed Nov 27 18:31:54 2024
    knuttle wrote on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:28:25 -0500 :

    Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.
    Check the manual for your phone, or do an online search. In my
    experience you can force a reboot or reset using the physical power
    button and one of the volume buttons on the phone. They are usually on
    the side edge of the phone. With my motorola phone, I can get to this
    screen by holding the power and down volume buttons at the same time and
    keep pressing them until the reboot/reset screen appears.

    Being a purposefully helpful and rather detailed person, as a public
    service, I wrote this, which may help the OP with an unresponsive Samsung.

    *How to un-freeze an unresponsive Samsung Galaxy A32 5G with reboot, reset, factory reset, odin mode, download mode, android recovery mode & debug mode*
    <https://xdaforums.com/t/how-to-un-freeze-an-unresponsive-samsung-galaxy-a32-5g-with-reboot-reset-factory-reset-odin-mode-download-mode-android-recovery-mode-debug-mode.4526629/>

    See also this, which I wrote to help people like the OP with their phone.
    *What is the best XDA solution to control Android on the PC & recover data over Wi-Fi when the user suddenly has an unresponsive broken screen?*
    <https://xdaforums.com/t/what-is-the-best-xda-solution-to-control-android-on-the-pc-recover-data-over-wi-fi-when-the-user-suddenly-has-an-unresponsive-broken-screen.4455331/>

    Good luck to the OP.
    Please let us know how it works so we all learn from each other.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Nov 27 18:29:10 2024
    Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Others already posted the volume-down+power buttons method to force a
    reboot.

    As to the freeze/hang/crash/<whatever>: If that keeps reoccuring,
    check in the Play Store app if Facebook has been recently updated, i.e.
    in the last few days or so.

    If so, and if you (like me) don't need/use Facebook, then uninstall
    it. You probably can not completely uninstall it, but you can uninstall
    updates (three-dot icon in the App info screen) and Disable it. You may
    also have to do the same for some Meta related apps, but start with
    Facebook. Come back to me (here) if your problem indeed seems Facebook
    related, but it has not been completely resolved, i.e. the phone still
    crashes or/and reboots.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Larry Wolff on Wed Nov 27 22:08:25 2024
    On 2024-11-27 18:29, Larry Wolff wrote:
    On 11/26/2024 9:24 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    On 11/26/2024 10:18 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the >>>> touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Did you previously turn on USB debugging in Developer options?

    Not to my knowledge.

    Next time, before a phone screen becomes unresponsive, turn on Developer options USB debugging so that you can interact with the phone from a PC.

    You don't need the screen to respond if you had USB debugging turned on.

    The PC can do anything you want to the phone over the USB cable then.

    Which is something very dangerous, if any random PC can take control of
    a phone.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 22:22:04 2024
    Am 27.11.24 um 10:21 schrieb Andy Burns:
    Steve Hayes wrote:

    I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    There's usually a sequence of e.g. holding the power button for over 30 seconds doing a reboot ...

    That does not exist anywhere. As soon as the reboot starts you can
    release the buttons.


    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 22:20:10 2024
    Am 27.11.24 um 17:44 schrieb micky:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:10 +1300, Ralph Fox <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?


    Mr. Google says to try these:

    1. <https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/my-galaxy-smartphone-has-frozen-how-do-i-restart-it/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Samsung phone frozen - how to soft reset or hard reboot

    If your device is frozen and unresponsive, press and hold the
    Power button and the Volume down button down simultaneously for
    more than 7 seconds to restart it. When your phone resets, you
    will feel it vibrate.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


    2. <https://www.asurion.com/connect/tech-tips/samsung-galaxy-touch-screen-not-working/>

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Restart your Samsung Galaxy

    It almost sounds too simple, but restarting your Samsung Galaxy
    can sometimes fix your touch screen by clearing out what's
    causing the issue. Here's how to do it:
    1. With your phone on, press and hold the Power button and
    Volume Down button for 10+ seconds. On Samsung phones
    without a dedicated Power key, press and hold the Volume
    Down key and Side key for 10+ seconds.
    2. Hold until the Samsung Galaxy logo appears.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUOTE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have 7 seconds. Now I have 10 seconds. Does anyone offer 20 seconds?

    Just try, idiot.


    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 27 22:25:04 2024
    Am 27.11.24 um 18:45 schrieb David Oseas:
    On 11/27/2024 8:42 AM, micky wrote:


    You should be able to turn it off by putting it in a trash compactor.

    Not sure how to turn it back on, however. Still working on that.


    Sorry, that only works for iPhones

    Aha?!

    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
    Thunderbird/52.9.1
    X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 241127-4, 11/27/2024), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean

    You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 04:58:33 2024
    On 27 Nov 2024 18:29:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d>
    wrote:

    Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:
    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

    Others already posted the volume-down+power buttons method to force a
    reboot.

    Yes, I tried it and it worked.

    Thanks very much to those who suggested it.


    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From Larry Wolff@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Thu Nov 28 00:18:04 2024
    On 11/27/2024 2:08 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:

    Which is something very dangerous, if any random PC can take control of
    a phone.

    https://chaitanyaduse.medium.com/usb-debugging-adb-a1400a9c34bf
    USB Debugging Activation in Mobile Application Security
    Significant or not ? https://github.com/ChaitanyaDuse/SecureAndroidApp/tree/usb-debugging-check

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  • From David Oseas@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 28 10:00:00 2024
    On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:


    You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.


    You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to
    be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to David Oseas on Thu Nov 28 19:08:58 2024
    On 28.11.24 19:00, David Oseas wrote:
    On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:


    You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.


    You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to
    be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

    Poor company!

    Good companies do not accept or have strict minimum requirements on
    Androids in a business environment. iPhones are always welcome as BYOD
    and as company standard.

    I have good reasons not to believe your claim.

    --
    "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Nov 28 19:14:38 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:18:23 +0200, Steve Hayes <[email protected]> wrote:

    Three days ago my Samsung phone froze, and yould not respond to any
    input from the touch screen.

    I haven't had this problem, but a couple times I couldn't hang up the
    phone. I wanted to make another call and tapping the icon did nothing.
    Finally noticed on another screen that it still said "Hanging up" 8
    minutes after I thought I hung up.

    Turning off the phone solved it.

    I was almost the last to leave a funeral, still in the cemetery, when
    the phone vibrated. I ignored it expecting it to go to voicemail, as it
    should have, but it didn't. Finally I answered and no one was there. So
    I hung up, or at least I tried to.



    In the past when such a thing has happened I've found that it can be
    cured by taking out the battery and rebooting.

    But with this particular Samsung model one cannot remove the battery
    without special tools.

    Would it have the same effect if I wait a few days for the battery to
    go flat, and then try to charge it and restart it?

    Has anyone else foudn a way to switch off and restart a phone when the
    touch screen doesn't respond and you can't remove the battery?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 29 01:22:31 2024
    On 2024-11-28 19:08, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.11.24 19:00, David Oseas wrote:
    On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    >
    > You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.
    >

    You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to
    be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

    Poor company!

    Good companies do not accept or have strict minimum requirements on
    Androids in a business environment. iPhones are always welcome as BYOD
    and as company standard.

    I have good reasons not to believe your claim.

    Don't be ridiculous.

    A bank customer help desk, for example, has to answer questions from
    clients on any type of phone. The bank has no say on what type of phone
    the clients come with. If they try, clients will go elsewhere with their
    good money.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Fri Nov 29 07:19:01 2024
    On 29.11.24 01:22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2024-11-28 19:08, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 28.11.24 19:00, David Oseas wrote:
    On 11/27/2024 1:25 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

    >
    > You do not know what an iPhone is nor have you ever seen one.
    >

    You'd better run and tell that to my former boss, because he paid me to
    be in charge of Android and iPhone technical support for ten years.

    Poor company!

    Good companies do not accept or have strict minimum requirements on
    Androids in a business environment. iPhones are always welcome as BYOD
    and as company standard.

    I have good reasons not to believe your claim.

    Don't be ridiculous.

    A bank customer help desk, for example, has to answer questions from
    clients on any type of phone. The bank has no say on what type of phone
    the clients come with. If they try, clients will go elsewhere with their
    good money.

    You miss the topic. We are not discussing clients.


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