• Re: Thumbnails, and what creates them.

    From Bob Martin@21:1/5 to Paul on Mon Nov 4 06:06:35 2024
    On 4 Nov 2024 at 02:50:37, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 11/3/2024 7:03 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:46:23 -0500, "Alan K."
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/3/24 05:37 PM, micky wrote:
    Thumbnails, and what creates them.

    I have a lot of pictures on my Android phone, and I copy them all to my >>>> laptop, and I copy all of them to my backup drive.

    In
    c:\users\[me]\appdata\roaming\MyPhoneExplorer\XiaomiRedmiNote8Pro[bunch >>>> of numbers]\thumbnailcache\sdcard\DCIM, I have 5 entries, 4 created
    today 3 of which are of photos I viewed today (and maybeeee the other
    one?), and one created in April of a photo I viewed today.

    This implies, iiuc, that windows creates the thumbnail when I do
    something, view the picture in any vieweer? Some viewers?

    At any rate, the thumbnail is used mostly, or entirely??, when using a >>>> file manager that displays the thumbnails, right?

    So I don't have to worry about copying them to a final location, and in >>>> fact I can delete them all, right? If I ever need one, Windows will
    recreate it????
    Thumbnails will be recreated as needed if deleted at anytime. The only downside is the need to
    remake them.

    Thanks. It was disturbing because the file name is the same and it took
    me a while to see that it was in a thumbnail directory. I thought I had
    failed to copy all my photos from the phone to the laptop, and unrelated
    to thumbnails, later on I found out that was true. Most of my pictures
    were in external storage but over 100 were in internal storage and I
    think I had never copied them from the phone.

    I've been using MyPhoneExlorer to both connect the phone and to copy
    from it, and I have to compare the source and dest each time to see what
    to copy, but maybe all I need to do is plug the phone into a USB port
    and use any of the Windows-based backup programs that don't copy what's
    already copied. Like robocopy or xxcopy.


    The phone doesn't have a drive letter (meaning it is MTP and
    not USB Mass Storage type).

    Your phone is meant to be a puzzle. Mission accomplished.

    *******

    https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/250944/how-to-make-a-full-local-backup-of-my-phone

    "There is no method to make a full backup of android smartphones.
    It is always only a partial backup"

    https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/226573/adb-pull-stops-after-first-error

    It's the stuff nightmares are made of.

    I used to use TWRP to do a full backup of my Nexus phones.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Nov 4 01:43:25 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on 4 Nov 2024 06:06:35 GMT, Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 4 Nov 2024 at 02:50:37, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sun, 11/3/2024 7:03 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 3 Nov 2024 17:46:23 -0500, "Alan K."
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 11/3/24 05:37 PM, micky wrote:
    Thumbnails, and what creates them.

    I have a lot of pictures on my Android phone, and I copy them all to my >>>>> laptop, and I copy all of them to my backup drive.

    In
    c:\users\[me]\appdata\roaming\MyPhoneExplorer\XiaomiRedmiNote8Pro[bunch >>>>> of numbers]\thumbnailcache\sdcard\DCIM, I have 5 entries, 4 created
    today 3 of which are of photos I viewed today (and maybeeee the other >>>>> one?), and one created in April of a photo I viewed today.

    This implies, iiuc, that windows creates the thumbnail when I do
    something, view the picture in any vieweer? Some viewers?

    At any rate, the thumbnail is used mostly, or entirely??, when using a >>>>> file manager that displays the thumbnails, right?

    So I don't have to worry about copying them to a final location, and in >>>>> fact I can delete them all, right? If I ever need one, Windows will >>>>> recreate it????
    Thumbnails will be recreated as needed if deleted at anytime. The only downside is the need to
    remake them.

    Thanks. It was disturbing because the file name is the same and it took >>> me a while to see that it was in a thumbnail directory. I thought I had >>> failed to copy all my photos from the phone to the laptop, and unrelated >>> to thumbnails, later on I found out that was true. Most of my pictures
    were in external storage but over 100 were in internal storage and I
    think I had never copied them from the phone.

    I've been using MyPhoneExlorer to both connect the phone and to copy
    from it, and I have to compare the source and dest each time to see what >>> to copy, but maybe all I need to do is plug the phone into a USB port
    and use any of the Windows-based backup programs that don't copy what's
    already copied. Like robocopy or xxcopy.


    The phone doesn't have a drive letter (meaning it is MTP and
    not USB Mass Storage type).

    Your phone is meant to be a puzzle. Mission accomplished.

    *******

    https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/250944/how-to-make-a-full-local-backup-of-my-phone

    "There is no method to make a full backup of android smartphones.
    It is always only a partial backup"

    https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/226573/adb-pull-stops-after-first-error

    It's the stuff nightmares are made of.

    I used to use TWRP to do a full backup of my Nexus phones.

    This sounds great, even a page for many Xiaomi phones -- it's the only
    brand they mention -- including my model: https://twrp.me/xiaomi/xiaomiredminote8pro.html
    This device uses Android Verified Boot (AVB)

    This means that installing TWRP or swiping to allow system modifications will prevent you from being able to boot. To bypass AVB's boot prevention, you will have to disable it or install a custom ROM that ships with disabled AVB.

    To disable AVB via fastboot, grab the vbmeta image from the ROM you are on, and flash it with the following command:

    fastboot --disable-verity --disable-verification flash vbmeta vbmeta.img

    AVB should be now disabled on your device.

    Scary. I don't mind fiddleing with the PC, but I feel like a newbie
    with the phone.

    Even "Fastboot Install Method (No Root Required)" has special
    procedures:
    You will need the platform-tools from the Android SDK on your computer. Download the platform-tools as per your operating system.

    Windows users will need proper drivers installed on their computer. You can try the simple FWUL adb/fastboot ISO or the Naked ADB drivers or the Universal ADB drivers if you don't already have a working driver installed

    On your device, go into Settings -> About and find the Build Number and tap on it 7 times to enable developer settings. Press back and go into Developer Options and enable USB debugging.

    I have done the line above.

    From your computer, open a command prompt and type:

    adb reboot bootloader

    You should now be in fastboot mode.

    Download the correct image file and copy the file into the same folder as your platform-tools. Rename the image to twrp.img and type:

    fastboot flash recovery twrp.img

    fastboot reboot

    Note many devices will replace your custom recovery automatically during first boot. To prevent this, use Google to find the proper key combo to enter recovery. After typing fastboot reboot, hold the key combo and boot to TWRP. Once TWRP is booted, TWRP
    will patch the stock ROM to prevent the stock ROM from replacing TWRP. If you don't follow this step, you will have to repeat the install.

    Too much for me, but thanks for the offer. Non-Xiaomi people can
    proably use it with no trouble

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Bob Martin on Mon Nov 4 16:23:07 2024
    Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
    [...]

    I used to use TWRP to do a full backup of my Nexus phones.

    AFAIK, using TWRP for a full backup requires an unlocked bootloader
    [1]. Normally the bootloader is locked, because an unlocked bootloader
    is a security risk in case the phone falls into the wrong hands.

    For the same reason, on most phones unlocking the bootloader (via an unlocking code from the manufacturer or third party) will do a factory
    reset, deleting all the very programs and data you're trying to backup. Catch-22.

    So how did you get to flash TWRP on your Nexus without these
    problems?

    [1] See for example:
    'Is it necessary to unlock bootloader before flashing a recovery like
    TWRP?' <https://www.quora.com/Is-it-necessary-to-unlock-bootloader-before-flashing-a-recovery-like-TWRP>

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