• The FCC will soon require all hearing aids and phones to work together

    From Quincy the fifth@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 18 06:53:28 2024
    The FCC will soon require all hearing aids and phones to work together

    After a transition period, all phones will be required to work with hearing aids - and vice versa.

    On Thursday, the FCC approved new regulations requiring all phone makers to make their handsets compatible with hearing aids. With the number of
    Americans 65 and older expected to balloon by nearly 50 percent by 2050,
    the rules will ensure those with hearing loss don't have to worry about
    which phones will work with their hearing aids.

    "Under the new rules, after a transition period, Americans with hearing
    loss will no longer be limited in their choice of technologies, features,
    and prices available in the mobile handset marketplace," the FCC wrote in a press release.

    On the flip side, the FCC also passed a requirement for hearing aid makers
    that effectively bans proprietary Bluetooth coupling standards in the
    assistive devices. So, phones must be compatible with hearing aids - and
    vice versa. The rule even applies to the recently approved over-the-counter hearing aids, which now include AirPods Pro 2.

    Other changes include requiring all new mobile handsets sold in the US to
    let users raise the volume without introducing distortion. In addition, the
    FCC now mandates that cell phones' point-of-sale labels clarify hearing aid compatibility and whether the handsets meet Bluetooth or telecoil coupling requirements.











    https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/the-fcc-will-soon-require-all-hearing-aids-and-phones-to-work-together-190003074.html

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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to Quincy the fifth on Sun Oct 20 12:50:38 2024
    Quincy the fifth <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

    The FCC will soon require all hearing aids and phones to work together

    After a transition period, all phones will be required to work with hearing aids - and vice versa.

    On Thursday, the FCC approved new regulations requiring all phone makers to make their handsets compatible with hearing aids. With the number of Americans 65 and older expected to balloon by nearly 50 percent by 2050,
    the rules will ensure those with hearing loss don't have to worry about
    which phones will work with their hearing aids.

    "Under the new rules, after a transition period, Americans with hearing
    loss will no longer be limited in their choice of technologies, features,
    and prices available in the mobile handset marketplace," the FCC wrote in a press release.

    On the flip side, the FCC also passed a requirement for hearing aid makers that effectively bans proprietary Bluetooth coupling standards in the assistive devices. So, phones must be compatible with hearing aids - and
    vice versa. The rule even applies to the recently approved over-the-counter hearing aids, which now include AirPods Pro 2.

    Other changes include requiring all new mobile handsets sold in the US to
    let users raise the volume without introducing distortion. In addition, the FCC now mandates that cell phones' point-of-sale labels clarify hearing aid compatibility and whether the handsets meet Bluetooth or telecoil coupling requirements. https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/the-fcc-will-soon-require-all-hearing-aids-and-phones-to-work-together-190003074.html

    Article in the NYT about using Airpods in noisy restaurants. Apple
    - so OT here - but interesting.

    Warning: long link, mind the gap. <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/dining/noisy-restaurants-apple-airpods.html?ogrp=ctr&unlocked_article_code=1.TE4.e16D.DGoscIP9pT8o&smid=url-share>


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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 20 12:56:45 2024
    db wrote:

    Don't all modern mobile phones have Bluetooth? So it is up
    to hearing aids to have that capability.

    Beyond the actual bluetooth radio, is there a special bluetooth profile required for hearing aid support, or is it just e.g. A2DP ?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Oct 20 12:51:07 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 20 Oct 2024 11:11:04 -0000 (UTC), db <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 06:53:28 +0200, Quincy the fifth wrote:

    The FCC will soon require all hearing aids and phones to work together

    After a transition period, all phones will be required to work with
    hearing aids - and vice versa.

    On Thursday, the FCC approved new regulations requiring all phone makers
    to make their handsets compatible with hearing aids. With the number of
    Americans 65 and older expected to balloon by nearly 50 percent by 2050,
    the rules will ensure those with hearing loss don't have to worry about
    which phones will work with their hearing aids.

    "Under the new rules, after a transition period, Americans with hearing
    loss will no longer be limited in their choice of technologies,
    features,
    and prices available in the mobile handset marketplace," the FCC wrote
    in a press release.

    On the flip side, the FCC also passed a requirement for hearing aid
    makers that effectively bans proprietary Bluetooth coupling standards in
    the assistive devices. So, phones must be compatible with hearing aids -
    and vice versa. The rule even applies to the recently approved
    over-the-counter hearing aids, which now include AirPods Pro 2.

    Other changes include requiring all new mobile handsets sold in the US
    to let users raise the volume without introducing distortion. In
    addition, the FCC now mandates that cell phones' point-of-sale labels
    clarify hearing aid compatibility and whether the handsets meet
    Bluetooth or telecoil coupling requirements.

    This all sounds pretty good to me.

    Don't all modern mobile phones have Bluetooth? So it is up
    to hearing aids to have that capability.
    I got hearing aids about five years ago, expecting just
    that, but was pleasantly surprised at the bonus feature
    of Bluetooth, so that all sound made by the phone goes
    straight into my ears, and to answer a phone call all I have
    to do is to press a small button on the hearing aid and I
    never need to pick up the phone, as long as it's within a few
    meters- wonderfull. On long walks I can listen to music I have
    put on my phone.

    The small downside is that if I misplace my phone, I can't ask
    my wife to ring me, to locate it. The only ring tone is in my ears.

    LOL Can you turn off your hearing aids?

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Dave Royal on Sun Oct 20 15:13:32 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 20 Oct 2024 12:50:38 +0100 (GMT+01:00),
    Dave Royal <[email protected]> wrote:

    Quincy the fifth <[email protected]> Wrote in message:

    The FCC will soon require all hearing aids and phones to work together

    After a transition period, all phones will be required to work with hearing >> aids - and vice versa.

    On Thursday, the FCC approved new regulations requiring all phone makers to >> make their handsets compatible with hearing aids. With the number of
    Americans 65 and older expected to balloon by nearly 50 percent by 2050,
    the rules will ensure those with hearing loss don't have to worry about
    which phones will work with their hearing aids.

    "Under the new rules, after a transition period, Americans with hearing
    loss will no longer be limited in their choice of technologies, features,
    and prices available in the mobile handset marketplace," the FCC wrote in a >> press release.

    On the flip side, the FCC also passed a requirement for hearing aid makers >> that effectively bans proprietary Bluetooth coupling standards in the
    assistive devices. So, phones must be compatible with hearing aids - and
    vice versa. The rule even applies to the recently approved over-the-counter >> hearing aids, which now include AirPods Pro 2.

    Other changes include requiring all new mobile handsets sold in the US to
    let users raise the volume without introducing distortion. In addition, the >> FCC now mandates that cell phones' point-of-sale labels clarify hearing aid >> compatibility and whether the handsets meet Bluetooth or telecoil coupling >> requirements.
    https://www.engadget.com/mobile/smartphones/the-fcc-will-soon-require-all-hearing-aids-and-phones-to-work-together-190003074.html

    Article in the NYT about using Airpods in noisy restaurants. Apple
    - so OT here - but interesting.

    Warning: long link, mind the gap. ><https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/dining/noisy-restaurants-apple-airpods.html?ogrp=ctr&unlocked_article_code=1.TE4.e16D.DGoscIP9pT8o&smid=url-share>

    v ERRRRY INTERSTING LINK GOOD 4 30 DAYS

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 21 01:00:39 2024
    Andy Burns, 2024-10-20 13:56:

    db wrote:

    Don't all modern mobile phones have Bluetooth? So it is up
    to hearing aids to have that capability.

    Beyond the actual bluetooth radio, is there a special bluetooth profile required for hearing aid support, or is it just e.g. A2DP ?

    According to <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bluetooth_profiles>
    it seems there is no special "hearing aid" profile and A2DP should be sufficient, quote:

    "Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)

    (...)

    For example, music can be streamed from a mobile phone to a wireless
    headset, hearing aid/cochlear implant streamer (...)"





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