I've noticed that the time specified for an incoming text which I
receive while the phone is off is the time that I turn the phone on.

I'd like to know when the text was actually sent.

The lack of this knowledge has led to problems. For example, yesterday,
my girlfriend stood me up for a 6PM date. She told me that while taking
a walk Sunday morning, 3 men had kidnapped her, taken away her phone,
and didn't release her until 9PM. I didn't know there was a problem
until 5PM when I turned on my phone and got a text from her that said 2
men were following her. She's telling me now that she sent this text at
9 in the morning, but I think it might not have been as late as 4 or 5
in the afternoon when she realized she wouldn't be home in time for our
date, and that she was out with another guy, not kidnapped. She knows I
don't turn on the phone until I'm leaving the house and I woudn't leave
my house before 5:30PM. So the time the phone shows for the text is
5:30PM, but if I had the time it was sent, I'd now if she was telling
the truth.

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On 09.09.24 16:50, micky wrote:

I've noticed that the time specified for an incoming text which I
receive while the phone is off is the time that I turn the phone on.

I'd like to know when the text was actually sent.

The lack of this knowledge has led to problems. For example, yesterday,
my girlfriend stood me up for a 6PM date. She told me that while taking
a walk Sunday morning, 3 men had kidnapped her, taken away her phone,
and didn't release her until 9PM. I didn't know there was a problem
until 5PM when I turned on my phone and got a text from her that said 2
men were following her. She's telling me now that she sent this text at
9 in the morning, but I think it might not have been as late as 4 or 5
in the afternoon when she realized she wouldn't be home in time for our
date, and that she was out with another guy, not kidnapped. She knows I don't turn on the phone until I'm leaving the house and I woudn't leave
my house before 5:30PM. So the time the phone shows for the text is
5:30PM, but if I had the time it was sent, I'd now if she was telling
the truth.

You are definitely senile.

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On 09.09.24 17:41, knuttle wrote:

On 09/09/2024 11:20 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 09.09.24 16:50, micky wrote:

I've noticed that the time specified for an incoming text which I
receive while the phone is off is the time that I turn the phone on.

I'd like to know when the text was actually sent.

The lack of this knowledge has led to problems.  For example, yesterday, >>> my girlfriend stood me up for a 6PM date.  She told me that while taking >>> a walk Sunday morning, 3 men had kidnapped her, taken away her phone,
and didn't release her until 9PM.  I didn't know there was a problem
until 5PM when I turned on my phone and got a text from her that said 2
men were following her.  She's telling me now that she sent this text at >>> 9 in the morning, but I think it might not have been as late as 4 or 5
in the afternoon when she realized she wouldn't be home in time for our
date, and that she was out with another guy, not kidnapped.  She knows I >>> don't turn on the phone until I'm leaving the house and I woudn't leave
my house before 5:30PM.  So the time the phone shows for the text is
5:30PM, but if I had the time it was sent, I'd now if she was telling
the truth.

You are definitely senile.

If you don't trust her to be truthfull with you, you should dump her.

You are replying to the wrong person.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 11:41:37 -0400, knuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

On 09/09/2024 11:20 AM, J�rg Lorenz wrote:

On 09.09.24 16:50, micky wrote:

I've noticed that the time specified for an incoming text which I
receive while the phone is off is the time that I turn the phone on.

I'd like to know when the text was actually sent.

The lack of this knowledge has led to problems.� For example, yesterday, >>> my girlfriend stood me up for a 6PM date.� She told me that while taking >>> a walk Sunday morning, 3 men had kidnapped her, taken away her phone,
and didn't release her until 9PM.� I didn't know there was a problem
until 5PM when I turned on my phone and got a text from her that said 2
men were following her.� She's telling me now that she sent this text at >>> 9 in the morning, but I think it might not have been as late as 4 or 5
in the afternoon when she realized she wouldn't be home in time for our
date, and that she was out with another guy, not kidnapped.� She knows I >>> don't turn on the phone until I'm leaving the house and I woudn't leave
my house before 5:30PM.� So the time the phone shows for the text is
5:30PM, but if I had the time it was sent, I'd now if she was telling
the truth.

You are definitely senile.

You have no sense of humor.

If you don't trust her to be truthfull with you, you should dump her.

You're right. But the story was just a joke. The real problem that
happened yesterday is difficult, almost painful, to discuss. There
really are times when I'd like to know when a text has been sent.

Is there a way to tell?

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On 09.09.24 18:23, micky wrote:

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 11:41:37 -0400, knuttle <[email protected]> wrote:

On 09/09/2024 11:20 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 09.09.24 16:50, micky wrote:

I've noticed that the time specified for an incoming text which I
receive while the phone is off is the time that I turn the phone on.

I'd like to know when the text was actually sent.

The lack of this knowledge has led to problems.  For example, yesterday, >>>> my girlfriend stood me up for a 6PM date.  She told me that while taking >>>> a walk Sunday morning, 3 men had kidnapped her, taken away her phone,
and didn't release her until 9PM.  I didn't know there was a problem
until 5PM when I turned on my phone and got a text from her that said 2 >>>> men were following her.  She's telling me now that she sent this text at >>>> 9 in the morning, but I think it might not have been as late as 4 or 5 >>>> in the afternoon when she realized she wouldn't be home in time for our >>>> date, and that she was out with another guy, not kidnapped.  She knows I >>>> don't turn on the phone until I'm leaving the house and I woudn't leave >>>> my house before 5:30PM.  So the time the phone shows for the text is
5:30PM, but if I had the time it was sent, I'd now if she was telling
the truth.

You are definitely senile.

You have no sense of humor.

If you don't trust her to be truthfull with you, you should dump her.

You're right. But the story was just a joke. The real problem that happened yesterday is difficult, almost painful, to discuss. There
really are times when I'd like to know when a text has been sent.

Is there a way to tell?

The time stamp indicates when the system was able to send you the
message. There is no way except the phone of the sender to tell the time
when it was sent.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

micky <[email protected]> wrote:

There
really are times when I'd like to know when a text has been sent.

Is there a way to tell?

Not at your end. No.

SMS is not intended as a timely process, so the time something was sent is >not relevant.

Okay. I can live with that (Well, I have no choice!). It's also true
that they don't even show a time for intermediate texts.

I'll bet there are times when this sort of thing confuses people

Also, just keep your phone turned on.

No, I've deciced to trust her. I'm sure there are a lot of kidnappings
that end with no ransom paid and the victim released and not complaining
to the police.

But I will turn the phone on 2 or 3 hours before our next date so if
she's kidnapped again, I won't have to drive all the way over to her
house for nothing.

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On 9/9/24 9:23 AM, micky wrote:

Is there a way to tell [when a text was sent]?

If you and the sender are both withing range of a working tower (and
systems) the transmit and receive times should be ABOUT the same. I just
checked the wife's phone and that's true for our recent texts. But any
hiccups on either end (or the middle) could obviously change things so the
definitive answer to your question is probably not for sure.

Am posting from a new Chromebook toy. Let's see how she works...

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On 2024-09-09 22:38, micky wrote:

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris <[email protected]> wrote:

micky <[email protected]> wrote:

There
really are times when I'd like to know when a text has been sent.

Is there a way to tell?

Not at your end. No.

SMS is not intended as a timely process, so the time something was sent is >> not relevant.

Okay. I can live with that (Well, I have no choice!). It's also true
that they don't even show a time for intermediate texts.

I'll bet there are times when this sort of thing confuses people

I just looked at a random SMS I got. Long tap, then three dot menu, then properties. It displays both sent and received times.

On RCS messages it also has a time for when it was read.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 23:39:26 +0200, "Carlos E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

On 2024-09-09 22:38, micky wrote:

In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:25:04 -0000 (UTC), Chris
<[email protected]> wrote:

micky <[email protected]> wrote:

There
really are times when I'd like to know when a text has been sent.

Is there a way to tell?

Not at your end. No.

SMS is not intended as a timely process, so the time something was sent is >>> not relevant.

Okay. I can live with that (Well, I have no choice!). It's also true
that they don't even show a time for intermediate texts.

I'll bet there are times when this sort of thing confuses people

I just looked at a random SMS I got. Long tap, then three dot menu, then >properties. It displays both sent and received times.

!!!!!!

I always forget about long tap. (To skip my mistaken first impression,
go straight to the good 2nd impression****) However when I just did
it, I got a horizontal list of 6 emojis, the last of which was an array
of 100's of choices, but all emojis. And the option to create my own,
emoji. No 3 dots, no more info.

**** 2nd reply, I tried again: In addition to the list of emogis, when I
long tap I finally noticed that the text turns dark blue, then using the
3 dots that I just said didn't exist (because they were already there in
the upper right of the entire screen), I get Share, Forward, and View
Details, and indeed that shows for the text I was most concerned about,
that I received it at 2:06pm yesterday, when I turned the phone on, and
it was sent at 11pm the night before. It also gives the phone number
of the person texting me. That's valuable too.


If I don't make a particular text dark blue by long tapping, the same 3
dots in the upper right of the page provide a list of options and the
only likely one was Details, which gives details about the other person,
not any paticular text. I had tried that before I first posted.

On RCS messages it also has a time for when it was read.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 9 Sep 2024 21:32:24 -0000 (UTC), AJL <[email protected]> wrote:

On 9/9/24 9:23 AM, micky wrote:

Is there a way to tell [when a text was sent]?

If you and the sender are both withing range of a working tower (and
systems) the transmit and receive times should be ABOUT the same. I just checked the wife's phone and that's true for our recent texts. But any

And in my case too when I have the phone on, but this instance and prior
ones, the phone was off and the time below the text is always the time I
turn the phone on, regardless of what it was sent. But see myu other
recent post to see that inside it does show when it was sent and when
received,

hiccups on either end (or the middle) could obviously change things so the definitive answer to your question is probably not for sure.

Am posting from a new Chromebook toy. Let's see how she works...

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